Gotta love how everyone forgot about Newton in all this. Enjoy your instantly well-cooked hand, which is also made of meat.
Chickenslap
Submitted 18 hours ago by zedgeist@lemmy.world to science_memes@mander.xyz
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codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
ysjet@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
My man, if you slapped something at 32,000 miles per hour, you don’t have a hand to cook anymore :P
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Double the food. Sweet!
sunoc@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
A guy on YT actually tried it experimentally a few years ago (how many slaps, not how fast one slap); and it works to some degree! The main problem becomes to make a slapping machine that can survive long enough:
zedgeist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
YouTube is truly a wonder of stupidity. Sometimes in good ways
kiagam@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This slap question was a big meme several years ago, and when that video came out (years after the meme), it was an instant hit.
The fact that this discussion is still going shows how popular it is
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
IDK, might be laying the groundwork for future kinetic cookers.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
He also did a turkey a couple years after that for “slapsgiving”
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
As your friendly neighborhood person with knowledge about food and cooking, 2 pounds is an absurd weight for an uncooked rotisserie chicken, that is a very small and cooked weight, 4-6 pounds is going to be typical. Also, more importantly, you cannot cook something faster by increasing the temperature past a pretty quick point, meat is an excellent insulator. No slap can cook the inside of a frozen chicken unless the entire chicken disintegrates.
insomniac@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Also, if you cooked it to 400 degrees it would be disguising. You just need to cook it to 165. This guy might know about physics but he has never cooked anything before.
meep_launcher@lemm.ee 5 minutes ago
Speak for yourself, I love a good carbonized chicken
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Shredded chicken it is
blarghly@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
And your hand
sm1dger@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Typical physicist, ignoring enthalpy of phase changes. Starting from 1C defrosted makes a huge difference from 0C as the melting takes up a ton more energy/slaps. Their underslapped chicken would give you salmonella
untorquer@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
They haven’t considered rate of slap. Significant heat transfer to environment even at 10 slaps per second.
They’re also assuming sea level standard atmospheric conditions. You may need to reduce rate of slap at altitude.
marius@feddit.org 10 hours ago
Also only about half the heat goes into the chicken and the other half into the hand used for slapping
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Also completely neglecting that not all the energy in a slap will be transferred to thermal energy in the chicken.
Balthazar@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Assume a spherical chicken…
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
And the phase change from uncooked to cooked.
marius@feddit.org 10 hours ago
Where do I find cooked in the phase diagram?
zedgeist@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
🤔
icelimit@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Slap the salmon
head_socj@midwest.social 9 hours ago
Lord have mercy on folks cooking their chicken to 400 F. Those birds will come out as dry as the sands of the Sahara.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
“well done steaks. if I see a speck of red, it’s going back. you better cook my food”.
Signed, a well done meat enjoyer.
head_socj@midwest.social 5 hours ago
I mean, false equivalency, don’t you think? I have yet to meet an enjoyer of medium-rare chicken, probably because the Salmonella or Listeria already took them out
leftover@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
Yes that is about 2.5 times the recommended safe temp. I am not going the math though.
reattach@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Only ~40% higher - make sure to use absolute units when taking a ratio of temperatures.
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
Where’s the link to the YouTube video where someone tried this? I remember listening to it last time someone posted this.
observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
205°C 😂😂😂
pigup@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Common sense and physicists are common enemies
observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
I confirm this as a physics PhD. I also understand exactly this thinking of assuming a system is in thermal equilibrium where it is far from it (like a chicken in am oven).
kameecoding@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Maybe they like their chicken fucking black
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Well otherwise it has to stay at some 100 degrees for quite a long time to consider it cooked
medgremlin@midwest.social 8 hours ago
You need the chicken to be 165F or 74C to be food safe. It takes a long time to cook at 100-200C because the heat is being transferred much slower. If we’re using this instant slap-based cooking method, it only needs to get to the food safe temperature.
Using the OP’s calculations and a cooked temperature of 74C:
It would take 8315 average slaps
or
A slap at around 756m/s or 1691mph (numbers are rounded to whole integers).
Sophocles@infosec.pub 18 hours ago
Bro really wanted his chicken well done at 400°F
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Naw, that’s burnt.
Maillard reaction where things brown starts at 350f.
More than 165/175 in the center and that’s dried out.
Klear@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
The mallard reaction is only relevant when cooking duck.
froh42@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I saw you username first.
Then I misread the rest as a Mallard Reaction.
Graphy@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
If you spatchcock your bird then you’ve only gotta slap your cock to about 150°F at the thickest part of breast
HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
No one’s going to point out the absurd starting assumption KE=mcT??
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
Why is that absurd?
Amir@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
You need a perfect transfer of the kinetic energy to the chicken for that to hold, not a slap
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Fucking nerds in the comments^l^ ^love^ ^it^
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
But how do you get the chicken neck from the stratosphere once you’ve slapped it that fast?
Klear@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You start in the stratosphere and slap it down towards the Earth.
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Better to slap it twice at half strength so that it’s cooked when you catch it.
0ops@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
Smh it’s like these people have never slapped a chicken before
random8847@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Lmao
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 18 hours ago
Cook your hand too 😄
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
Your hand would disintegrate long before you slap it enough to cook it
Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 3 hours ago
So, how many slaps to cook Stephen Miller?
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 6 hours ago
Is that less or more the energy of your average Falcon Punch?
laserwash2000@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
The chicken has to exceed the boiling point of water for it to be cooked? Unless we’re making chicken caramels, I don’t think so.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
Just strap your hand open palm while riding a asteroid travelling at 10-20mps
zedgeist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
That 205C would just be the surface temperature of the chicken, not the average
lvxferre@mander.xyz 15 hours ago
Who was this written by, a Brit?
Nope. Likely an American.
When cooking, people in general like to use round numbers, like “200°C”, since a difference of 5°C in oven temperature is not a big deal.
And yet they went with some oddly specific 205°C. That only makes sense if they’re used to Fahrenheit, eyeballed a round value (like 400°F), converted it into Celsius (204.4°C), and then rounded it up to discard the decimal.
I’m also going to say they’re completely clueless when it comes to cooking - 200°C is the oven temperature. The chicken itself reaches a far lower temperature, in the 70~80°C range. By the time the chicken reached 200°C, it’s already dry and close to catching fire. (The self-ignition temperature for biological stuff is typically between 200°C and 250°C.)
laserwash2000@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Are you sure? The numbers in the tweet talk about total mass and heat capacity. So I think that means the entire bulk has that average temperature.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Single slap assumes all kinetic into heat, which isn’t. Alot is lost to the slap sound, alot more is lost into the Flying bits of pulverised chicken bits.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yes. I think, at these speeds, you have to model the chicken as a liquid.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
What if I wanted to cook the chicke through friction, by say inserting an object 3 fingers or so thick in and out of its cavity as fast as athletically possible? … so um… how long should I keep fucking my chicken?
ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Math says it’ll take more than 2 minutes, so unfortunately it’s out of reach for you
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 6 hours ago
alternatively, how long do I have to keep choking my chicken to cook it?
Courantdair@jlai.lu 16 hours ago
At this point we have to consider the ambient temperature as well, as the chicken will slightly cool between two slaps once it exceeds it
Saleh@feddit.org 14 hours ago
I think we should put more consideration into the fact that slapping the chicken this much will dissipate a lot of energy into deforming the chicken.
shalafi@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Assume the chicken is spherical an in vacuum.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 hours ago
Also at room temperature, the average speed of atoms in the material is at 400 m/s, at least for a gas. That might give you a hint.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
How many wanks to choke my chicken?
zedgeist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I don’t really know you, but your ex told me three strokes, tops
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Balthazar@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Excellent, physics in service of humanity!
Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
I think they did this on mythbusters
over_clox@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
How fast does it cook in a vacuum?
TheFogan@programming.dev 13 hours ago
to my knowledge these calculations pretty much have to be assuming a vacuum. IE there’s no mention of heat loss between slaps. which would be inevitable as 23k instant slaps, would take considerable time.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
This is why AI will take all of our jobs. Oh well, as long as we can.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Yeah yeah we get it, Newton will fry your hand and pls don’t cook a chicken to 205°C core temp.
BUT! What kinda math major forgets Newton AND the fact that you won’t convert kinetic energy into heat with 100% efficiency?