Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game

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• notannpc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  What AAA title is worth $80? The most time I spend gaming is in a 10 year old shooter, and an indie survival game. Both of which I bought for <$20.

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  • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨41⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I’d say GTA VI would likely earn that for me. I’ll probably spend over 80 hours on that.

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The amount of options isn’t the issue.

  For most 25-40€ games I buy, i can get a great experience for the next 30-50 hours.

  Indie games absolutely crush the statistics, where some sub-15€ roguelikes have such insane replayability, that i’ve clocked over a thousand hours into a couple. Not to mention how incredibly creative, unique, and story rich some of them are.

  Meanwhile, what used to be 60€, and is now 80€+, is some “cinematic” 20fps on console slop, that you can barely get 5 hours of real gameplay out of. I don’t wanna sit there and watch a movie with an occasional A button press. Or even worse, play something like the Assassins Creed reboot, that had 500 hours of gameplay, 490 of which is just useless collectibles around the map.

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  • Brokkr@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Would be interested to know what games you have >500 hours in. Especially if they aren’t multi-player online games.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      • Oxygen not Included

      • Caves of Qud

      Not run through Steam, so no Steam stats (though available on Steam) but I’m sure that they’re way up there:

      • Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead

      • Dwarf Fortress

      • Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, though that’s going back a few years.

      Some others with a fair bit of playtime:

      • Steel Division II (really primarily a multiplayer game, but I only play single-player)

      • Elite: Dangerous. Though I don’t remember how I accumulated that many hours. Wasn’t super-impressed with the game, and would have sworn that I’d have more time in X3 (though maybe that gets split across the DLC or something).

      • Stellaris

      • Noita

      • Nova Drift

      • Starfield

      • Rule the Waves 3

      • Carrier Command 2 (Primarily intended to be played multiplayer, but I play single-player)

      • Kerbal Space Program

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    • trinsec@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      RimWorld ...

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    • NeuronautML@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Stellaris, civ v, oxygen not included, city skylines, x4, workers and resources: soviet republic, kerbal space program.

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    • Yermaw@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Minecraft, slay the spire, civilisation, atomicrops.

      Balatro could have been a contender but I lost interest suddenly and unexpectedly.

      Tetris spoiler

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    • teft@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Baldur’s Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Witcher 3, Fallout

      Really any RPG you can easily get 1000 hours of play.

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    • dom@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Factorio, stardew, civ vi are my top 3.

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    • poleslav@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well I’m not them, but for me: KSP1: 1800.8 hours. Current cost $40 = $0.02 an hour DCS: 1294.7 hours. Money spent eh $300 = $0.23 an hour Witcher 3: 1131.5 hours. Current cost: $40 = $0.03 an hour. Civ vi: 589.9 hours. Current cost: $60 = $0.10 an hour Stardew valley: 579.3 hours. current cost $15 = $0.026 an hour Fall out new Vegas: 543.6 hours. Current cost: $10 = $0.0018 an hour

      Now if we add in the $2000 worth of peripherals I have to play dcs it’s cost balloons quite a bit but, it’s not terribly difficult to get high playtimes in cheap games. I would also say the cost per hour for me is double or triple what it actually is, as these are the current prices, and besides dcs I buy everything only on sale lol.

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    • echutaaa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Factorio, eu4, stellaris, satisfactory, slay the spire, etc

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    • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For indie and cheaper stuff specifically? The Binding of Isaac is over 1k hours between my two copies. Rimworld, Factorio, and Terraria are all close to 500h as well. If Minecraft counts as one for you, this is an outlier with roughly 4k hours since 2011.

      Otherwise, I am quite into MMOs and story-rich singleplayer RPGs, so there’s a handful of them with well over several thousands of hours played too.

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    • DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FTL for me

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Peglin for me. Cheaper world games I have an insane amount of hours in.

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    • icecreamtaco@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      XIV, but I never engage with other players aside from solo queue for dungeons etc

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    • msage@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Terraria is the easiest one.

      I wish I had more time to play other single player time sinks like Dwarf Fortress, or even BeamNG.drive.

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It kills me the the Jedi games, TLoU2, GoW games, they’re fun but they’re what, max 30 hours to beat? And they’re trying to up the price to 80?

    Red dead 2 deserves 80. Cyberpunk in its current state could deserve 80. Both are around 100-120 hour games and I’ve replayed them multiple times. 30 hour games by proportion deserve a quarter of the price.

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    • falidorn@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Never will understand people equating monetary value with how long they spend time with a game. Quality /= quantity or else Ubisoft and gacha games would be the best games of all time.

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• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But it still spooked Wall Street, as parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc.’s shares plummeted as much as 10% following the news.

  I think our economy might be predicated entirely on stupid.

  Also, $80 is a lot when typical people’s buying power is decreasing. I think like half of americans can’t tank a $500 surprise bill, and they want people to blow nearly 20% of that on a video game? Fuck off, capitalists.

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  • creamlike504@jlai.lu ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We (the gaming community) say this every time, but microtransactions and lootboxes have spread like viruses because gamers are buying them.

    I hate predatory pricing on principle, but whale votes count for a lot more.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Those systems are literally designed to be psychologically addictive and prey on those weakest to such tactics. It’s not stupidity; it’s literal brain washing.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t think I’ve ever bought a microtransaction or cosmetic. I’m doing my part!

      *Ok, i think I paid like $5 into warframe after 200 hours, and I used some fake money from google surveys on pokemon go, so I’m not entirely without sin.

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  • moody@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    (Which from my perspective is very silly — what’s the difference between them making a kajillion dollars in the fall and them making a kajillion dollars in May?)

    This “article” was written by a moron who doesn’t seem to know anything about the stock market. I guess it shouldn’t be too surprising for Bloomberg.

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Jason Schreier is not a no-name. I would expect the guy to figure it out, if he thought about it for a moment. But yeah, the whole article seems a bit rushed…

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• JTskulk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I made a rule that I can’t spend over $10 on a game until I’ve played through my entire backlog. I haven’t bought a game over $10 in 10 years and I’ve spent $6k on Steam since I started using it.

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• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nintendo fans gonna beg daddy for another round of the belt appreciate Nintendo’s innovation

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  • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    And Microsoft and the other “tRiPlE A” and “QuAdRuPlE A” publishers think they can ride on daddy Ninty’s coattails.

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• Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t pre order games. Don’t buy games at full price. Support indie devs.

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I will buy indie games at full price, thank you very much.

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    • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I bought Schedule 1 for the full $20 last week.

      I can’t stop playing. It’s too fun.

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll still buy FromSoft games at full price. But only because I know they won’t disappoint. And Took Taro’s games.

    But in general, it would be beneficial for more people to spend less on games.

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  • trashboat@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Honestly itch.io has plenty of free indie gems that can last me just as long as throwing $80 at a AAA game. I’d rather donate/tip after the fact for genuine well-crafted experiences

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tell the Nintendo crowd lol

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• Stern@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have 170 games in my backlog and the summer sale is coming. I ain’t spending 80 bucks on one video game.

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• FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I pirate games first before buying. Too many games become shit past the return window on Steam. I buy every game I like.

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• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It sucks that waiting for a sale might only bring down to the original $50 new full price it used to be.

  Just have to wait longer I guess.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

    The amount of games on the PC is way to large to be buying right away.

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    • Septian@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can wait as long as necessary – just means more time for the factory to grow. Factorio was the best value I’ve ever had out of $30.

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• B0NK3RS@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

  There are so many options out there that asking for $80, or whatever the equivalent is, is just ridiculous. I really hope people stand up against this bulshit.

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think Titanfall 2 is still on sale on steam for uh… 5 dollars.

  Its got Northstar, a custom client that allows for private multiplayer servers… also works on linux, literally has its own custom proton version.

  Oh and there are mods as well, guided installers, mod managers, etc, for windows and linux.

  Runs great on a steam deck!

  … and looks … basically the same as a shooter from 10 years later, at least at 1280 x 800?

  (its built on a custom forked version of the portal 2 source engine, so it actually runs efficiently and looks good =D)

  Doesn’t have a huge playerbase, but it is decent enough that you can probably find a few well populated servers, at least in NA region.

  … looks like titanfall 3 got turned into an extraction shooter and then cancelled.

  So anyway yeah, hilariously its time to return to tradition for enthusiasts of many old school competetive games from before the bullshit of endless battlepasses and MTX kicked into high gear… and as others have pointed out, the indie scene is full of gems.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Titanfall 2 has the last great FPS campaign. Nothing has come out since that’s nearly as good.

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  • CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I just like to add that it has an oft forgotten 4 player PvE coop mode. Also low on players, but not dead, and if you’re lucky enough to have some friends you can guarantee a match. And there are usually populated Northstar servers for it as well. It’s a great mode with progression and the signature combat experience in Titan and as a pilot.

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• renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  At garage sales books can often be found for 25 cents a piece (320 books in $80).

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• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For the last 10 years I’ve only played full price for one AAA game: Elden Ring.

  I’m happy to wait for sales on everything else, including the secondary market for Nintendo games, but after their recent fuckery in multiple arenas, I’m not keen buying anything they produce. (Not that it matters. Their stuff will sell regardless.)

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• MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve said this elsewhere before but video games are a commodity and an impulse buy. Very few people view the next video game as an essential purchase for themselves. So sure people can have them and haha about how much the cost of developing a video game has gone up till they’re blue in the face but that is not going to change how the consumer will feel at the register buying the game. If the person at the register does not feel that the price is justified they’re not going to pay it they’re going to wait for a sale, borrow it from a friend if they can get access to physical media, or pirate it.

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