Yes, but then it’s slower for your computer to talk back to your Wi-Fi, so it ends up cancelling out
Improve your Wi-Fi with this one trick
Submitted 13 hours ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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brown567@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
KryptoSynth@ani.social 7 hours ago
Lag@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
We can streamline this by making the room into 2 small tunnels from the router to the PC. This way there will be less obstacles in the room. But we need to add leafblowers on each side with a boost button.
DogWater@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Interestingly, this could be true and you could never find out experimentally iirc.
I watched a veritasium video about the 1 way speed of light vs 2 way that talked about it.
antimongo@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I watched the same video!
I was right about to disagree and type “wait this only applies to light” but then I remembered: radio is light.
Crazy to think about that!
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Yes but you have to put a slit in front of it so the wifi waves turn into wifi particles.
smokebuddy@lemmy.today 13 hours ago
^yes^ but ~pages~ will ^render^ kinda ~wavy~ i ^use^ a ~box~ fan ^myself^ for ~maximum~ speed
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
There are some stupid questions.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Tbf, it’s not like physics stuff is always obvious, especially when dealing with relativity or quantum mechanics. It just feels obvious if you’ve already learned about the research that’s already been done.
It isn’t even remotely intuitive that light should have a max speed that can’t be added to by moving its source relative to other things. Plus, light does interact with matter, but it can only be slowed down by it.
So less a stupid question and more just one that isn’t educated about something.
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yeah yeah, I know. I was mostly just kidding. Everything is magic if you’re ignorant and we shouldn’t shit on people for not knowing something and props to them for asking and seeking knowledge and all that.
But it’s really sad that very basic science like radio waves which are introduced in 5th or 6th grade could be some completely misunderstood.
I remember my 6th grade science class having a lively 15 minute discussion about whether or not rockets can work in space since there’s no air…. We’re looking at videos of rockets working in space and then debating whether or not they do. 🙄
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Quantum physics is not logical, every other field of physics is! Shame that instead of logic we are taught fucking equations, as if we could look up logical conclusions like equations…
eating3645@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Even less intuitively, the fan would increase the air pressure between the router and receiver, slowing light down slightly. So it would end up (imperceptibly) slowing the signal down.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 hours ago
This is not stupid at all. If Wi-Fi used matter instead of magnetic fields to propagate (like sound waves), a fan would affect it. Understanding magnetic fields is anything but intuitive.
Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Agreed, it’s just someone trying to learn.
Alternatively I would guess if fans improved the speed we’d have wifi fans throughout the house. Gaming wifi fans that sound like an airplane taking off with blinding LEDs
Imagine…
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
On the contrary, given the premise its a smart observation from an unknownledged person.
“Wifi is waves in the air” is very very wrong but as it appears it’s what this person was thought to believe. Given that they trust this information the conclusion makes perfect sense.
The only “dumb” here is whoever explain wifi like this to them.
So what the post really amounts to is. “I applied actual reasoning to the information i was provided as fact and my conclusion seemed strange, so i will ask on no stupid questions to figure out whats really going on”
Dabundis@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
“I don’t know, can anyone help me learn?” gets so much respect from me. Incredibly powerful mindset.
Willy@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
it obv goes through the ether
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 7 hours ago
Not at all in this case though! Or rather, it depends on your perspective.
“Why doesn’t electricity leak out the outlet?” is a good question, if you know nothing about electricity.
“Why doesn’t electricity leak out the outlet?” is a little stupid, if you know a little about electricity.
“Why doesn’t electricity leak out the outlet?” is a great question if you know a bit more about electricity (because it does leak out, it’s just that 50/60Hz doesn’t couple to freespace well unless you have a colossal antenna).
As to this question, light in a moving media: preprints.opticaopen.org/articles/…/25441108?file…
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Esp those pushed to devices with the form factor of a remote control, running the official reddit app
Zwiebel@feddit.org 12 hours ago
I mean technically the weather influences your ping, since the waves travel faster at higher air pressure
henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 hours ago
I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic but this is not true. Electromagnetic waves travel fastest in a vacuum, so the presence of air would slow it down very slightly and I would expect higher air pressure would slow it down further again only incredibly slightly because the electromagnetic waves would be traveling through a medium less efficient and more different than a vacuum.
Of course I’m making an assumption that you were using wireless signals. For all I know, you could have some weird acoustic link in which case you’d be absolutely right.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
They would travel slower at high pressure and high temperature due to more interactions. Low temp and low pressure are the opposite. Sound is also the opposite on pressure and more complicated on temperature.
saltesc@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Oh, wow. You really triggered them this time.
tyrefyre@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Yeah, but it evens out since now your messages going back to the router have to swim upstream.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 9 hours ago
Could this be remedied by sending packets on a second antenna, with a fan blowing in the opposite direction?
GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Only if the two air streams don’t intersect, otherwise you’ll create a dead zone. Modern signal jammers are actually highly sophisticated fans.
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 8 hours ago
Not inherently stupid question; they just don’t know that radio waves don’t travel through air but through space.
affiliate@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
they just don’t know that radio waves don’t travel through air but through space
does this mean radio waves can go to mars? if so, why don’t we ride them to mars?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
You’d need a very small saddle.
lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
It’s not much of a stupid question even given that - for a refractive medium, speed of light can change with its movement. Though for air it’ll be extremely hard to directly notice; it has n≈1.0003 so speed of light in air is already 0.9997c, and increasing it to, say, 0.9998c would require moving the air at 0.166c.
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Stupid laws of nature, making everything cool super hard and expensive!
ximtor@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
But air is empty space?! /s
brown567@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
If you had a fan blowing out the window, it could slightly reduce the density of the air in your house, leading to a tiny increase in the speed of light through it, so that would make the waves technically faster, but by a vanishingly small margin
It wouldn’t increase the bitrate of your router at all, so it wouldn’t make a difference, but the waves would be faster
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Bitrate wouldn’t change, but it would reduce latency by a tiny amount.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
With less matter for the photons to interact with, I assume the WiFi’s SNR would be improved. If fewer data frames need to be retransmitted at the link layer (WiFi), I figure the apparent bitrate at the IP level might actually be improved!
Actually, I would not be shocked if WiFi itself adapts to conditions, e.g. by sending less data per frame with more error correction bits when SNR is already low.
(Not a networking expert, I am just bullshitting.)
roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Depends on the direction the fan is facing. If it’s blowing towards you, that increases air pressure in front of it, which means more things for photons to interact with and a lower speed of light, thus slower wifi. Away from you would decrease the pressure and result in faster wifi due to the increased speed of light. Theoretically at least. I don’t think this effect is measurable.
silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 7 hours ago
If it changes the air pressure, changing the refractive index, it will affect how fast the waves will travel. If you put it behind the router blowing towards the computer, does that increase the pressure? Then it would slow down I think. But this would only make a difference for a single wave packet; any real connection sends many packets and would be limited by the frequency of packets sent.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I like this question tbh
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Not gonna lie, I thought about that, but I didn’t wanna risk sounding stupid, so I just google it instead of posting it on a forum. Luckily I didn’t actually make a forum post.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
and you can speedup your upload by switching the fan direction
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Gotta get me one of those oscillating routers.
henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 hours ago
They do kind of oscillate, just very very quickly.
DJDarren@thelemmy.club 12 hours ago
This might sound stupid, but that’s because it is.
Zachariah@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
WiFi is waves in space, not air.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Followup: Can I get a fan that moves space instead of air? I need to make my wifi faster.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 hours ago
You can define your fan to be moving space and the pushing of air is the side-effect.
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 8 hours ago
Just have a miniature wormhole connect your PC directly to the server
jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
I hope this is the final straw for OP to finally delete the app that shall not be named
Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It is amazing with how little to none in education is sufficient to finish school nowadays.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
I learned more from the internet than everything that public school taught me. That’s not to say we should stop funding school, but in fact, we should fund it better, and have more qualified teachers.
If I make an analogy between a wikipedia article, knowledge I learned. I would say that public school taught the eqivalent of the summary paragraph at the top of a wikipedia page, while the internet taught me the rest of the page. That’s how much school just don’t teach.
Example, School didn’t teach: (This is the USA btw)
- Ranked Choice voting (or any alternative voting method, for that matter)
- National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
- Citizen’s United ruling
- Although they did teach 5th & 6th amendments and Miranda Warning, they didn’t be specific and teach the fact that you have to specifically invoke your right to silence. Just remaining silent itself can be used as evidence of guilt.
Amonst many things
School definitely doesn’t teach how wifi works, or even how technology works in general. School never taugh about the fact that you shouldn’t ignore HTTPS warnings. I’m pretty sure like 99% of my school would just instictively click pass an HTTPS warning and just get their info stolen, although we do have HSTS now so we should be better now, but still, there are many other phishing that almost all of my school-mates would fall for, and they wouldn’t even think to scan the sender address or do any verification that its legit.
SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
How do you know that redditor finished school? There are kids on the Internet.
hperrin@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
Technically?
No.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Sort of a serious answer because I’m bored: You’re thinking of speeding up the air when what you should be thinking about is speeding up the waves. But then your waves are reaching you plenty fast already with latency being in the single digit ms range. Not much of a point in trying to accelerate that, really. You won’t notice anyway.
If you feel like your internet connection via Wi-Fi is slow then the bottleneck is probably not with the Wi-Fi part of your network but the Internet Access Point behind it. Or even further down the line.
Now this is based on the assumption that you are in a fairly typical network environment, i.e. using semi-current hardware with moderate, if any, electromagnetic interference in the area. If you’re living right next to a high voltage transformer station and using a router from 2008 then, yes, you’re going to have Wi-Fi performance issues.
But in most cases, people complaining about “slow Wi-Fi” are actually suffering from Internet connectivity issues.
Think of it this way: If you enjoy your McDonald’s from the local franchise but you can only get 100 burgers per hour from them (of course you need MOAR!) then upgrading your 320hp Camaro to a 400hp Mustang is not going to enable you to pick up appreciably more burgers from the drive through in the same amount of time.