Does anyone else think the NYPD photos of the UHC CEO shooting suspect don’t match?

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• dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

  I sure as fuck wouldn’t. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they’re scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I’m innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide “he had a knife” and just outright kill you. You know how they say “anything you say can be used against you?” That’s because they absolutely won’t use it to help you, even if you’re not guilty of anything.

  I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD’s neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody – anybody – over this because they’re looking even more like chumps than usual.

  So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

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  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The cops need to present a suspect so they can say they did their job. Whether it’s the right suspect is another matter.

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    • CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep, if something like this can happen, it might not be the best idea to go to the police:

      Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well[3:40]

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    • ApexHunter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They only care that the forms are filed. They don’t care if they are filed with correct information.

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    • UnityDevice@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      We did it, reddit NYPD!

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And if the cops do ask and want to pursue questioning you … you don’t talk to the cops in this situation and just ask for a lawyer … they ask what your name is - lawyer … what is your date of birth - lawyer … where are you from? lawyer … lawyer, lawyer, lawyer

    Never talk to the cops, especially when the cops are desperately looking for suspect.

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    • unmagical@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t ask. Tell them to get you your lawyer.

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is it “shut the fuck up” Friday?

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    • indepndnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is ALWAYS “shut the fuck up” Friday.

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    • stetech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Was about to send that first link. Glad someone beat me to it.

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  • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fair point. I suspect that the NYPD doesn’t really want to bring him in alive.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A dead suspect checks the boxes. Can’t dispute facts with evidence. Allows the media to say they got him. Gives them an easy victory.

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  • Aolley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Never talk to the police, there are many reasons why

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Massad Ayoub is the man when it comes to firearms and law. I know of no one more expert.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is sound advice. There are too many bad actors among cops to trust them to be impartial or fair.

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  • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Making a murderer is all you have to see to know this is the truth. I feel so bad for that family.

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    • Vacationlandgirl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yes! A real eye opener for me!

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  • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are correct. I’ve been watching a lot of true crime on YouTube lately and regardless whether someone is guilty or innocent, it seems it is ALWAYS in your best interest to get lawyered up and keep quiet if the cops are interrogating you.

    I have mixed feelings about the guilty assholes, because it’s frustrating seeing someone give up their rights and be so open about their crimes but on the other hand, I’m glad they’re so dumb so they can be removed from society and punished.

    But it is nothing but frustration seeing innocent people go through that out of genuine sincerity. “I have nothing to hide, so I’ll be open with the cops.” Fucking do not. It’s probably a 50% chance of encountering a bad cop but no matter how low the statistic is, there is too much at stake to risk encountering someone who twists your words and uses it against you to frame you so they can close a case.

    Lawyer up and shut up. Don’t talk to cops as much as you can help it. Especially don’t volunteer to have your name cleared.

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  • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I bet they stop releasing info because of the public reaction. At this poiny, they want us to forget and not have copycats. They’re scared.

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  • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Required viewing

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  • Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Especially just murdering you. Lot harder to get a corpse to testify that they didn’t do it. Makes it a LOT easier to say “well, they did it, but they’re dead now, case closed.”

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Just imagine this is green text.

      Nab the wrong guy

      Shoot him in the back 53 times while screaming “stop resisting!”

      Investigate ourselves, find no wrongdoing

      “Case closed, boys!”

      …

      Police chief gets got by The Adjuster the next day…

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Storm troopers murder these kinds of people rather than expose the injustice system.

    npr.org/…/protester-suspected-in-portland-shootin…

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow. Dood. Your reality sounds stressful.

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• InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Have we ruled out the CEO being a crisis actor?

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  • newDayRocks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t this part just 4 pictures of the CEO? Sure looks like him.

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• Waldowal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Definately 7’ 8" female. Asian descent. Bald. Possible Alopecia. Dwarfism.

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  • And009@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    8 foot dwarves

    TIL we’re Amazonians

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    with a lisp

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Some innocent Bavarian farm woman is currently being arrested thanks to you two. As if she didn’t have it hard enough.

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    • Kcap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      He does actually look European to me, who knows though

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  • wabafee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I remember she had a hook wearing a captains hat with a parrot in his shoulder.

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• DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Feel free to upload more pictures claiming to be him that aren’t, post them to Reddit, send them to the news claiming to be from an official source.

  Protect your folk heros America.

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  • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Regardless of whether the picture is correct, if you think you saw this man, no you didn’t.

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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    • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’m sure I saw him here in Mexico just yesterday.

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• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everyone keeps saying look at this photo of the suspect. All I see is an image that won’t load.

  Weird.

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  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh really? The image loads for me, but I certainly didn’t see anything.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Maybe the perp is wearing camouflage? I’ve also had trouble making anything out.

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    • And009@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Some say it was John Cena

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Doesn’t look like anything to me.

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  • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Image

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• pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Different bag. Different jacket.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah, these are obviously different. All kinds of visible differences. Pockets, color of bag, strap sizes, no string on hood, lapel looks different, one looks more like a “hoodie” than a jacket… Just doesn’t match very well at all.

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  • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That doesn’t mean it’s not the same person. It means they have more jackets and bags. If I was going to murder someone I too might bring extras so I can get changed afterwards.

    To be clear I hope they don’t catch this guy, but I’m just being real.

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    • rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’d do two bags in two separate locations with different changes of clothes in each. whichever bag I went would depend on what the circumstances afterwards were.

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  • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It’s the Everyday Bag by Peak Design. Probably v2. I want it so I can cosplay assassin-kun! Gotta figure out the right jacket.

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• MagnyusG@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was curious when I was hearing the police chatter saying the suspect was wearing a “cream-coloured” jacket, when in the assassination footage it’s pretty undeniably black or a dark colour at least.

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I heard he was wearing a white and gold blue and black coat.

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    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He probably spun around counterclockwise, but if you focus a lot it might have been the other direction

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    • Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I heard that he’s an ethereal being from another dimension that has already faded away from our plane of existence so the police is wasting its time looking for him and should close the case.

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  • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The fabric looks different too. Like the shooter’s jacket seems to have a texture like gore-tex and the hostel guy’s jacket seems more like a cotton-poly weave. It’s hard to know for sure with the low quality images, but the colors look really different (and neither is anything close to cream)

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    • BigPotato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The pockets are alone to give away that Hostel guy is wearing a “field jacket” cotton blend while Agent 47 is wearing a ECWCS cold/wet weather top. He could have two jackets and all that but they’re different jackets.

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  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Two different colored backpacks too

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  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Never underestimate how actively worthless “eyewitness” testimony is.

    I was not aware of this detail. But if it were just bystanders telling stuff to cops before they got a hold of the footage, they are going to go with it. Especially since it is already pretty worthless to begin with (so many jackets are easily reversed).

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not blue and black! It’s white and gold!!!

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• spector@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The clothing color could be due to lighting. Remember the blue black dress meme? Multiple backpacks is too easy. So that’s a non-issue.

  That being said. Why isn’t anyone considering that maybe the cops could give a shit either. But they have to try because the money people said so.

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  • Smoogs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I don’t think lighting makes a light grey backpack into black. That’s a bit of a stretch. Especially considering the jacket on the left have no chest pockets. The one on the right has massive pocket flaps like they are the main character.

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    • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      thank you! where did he stash the other jacket, and if he did why would he pick one of same colour and type?

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  • KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They’ll happily jail an innocent person so they can avoid looking incompetent.

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    • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s more than incompetent. It’s that they can’t get caught. That there is a way to execute and not be held accountable. If that knowledge hits the masses it’s a public relations nightmare.

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    How do you explain the different pockets and completely different backpack, then?

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• MooseTheDog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  CNN and others just put the photos out without verification. No official photos have been released. CNN even said as much in their article

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• sepi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  NYC cops are dumb as hell.

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• yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  These are not the same person. They fit the description, and where near the scene. Police would want to talk to both regardless.

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• MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Reminder even facial-recognition softwares & Geo-Location data HAVE made errors that put innocent people in jail

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• Dr_Box@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The assassin looks like he is wearing a black jacket and the other guy looks like he is wearing a cream colored dickies hooded jean jacket with the grey hood like you get from walmart

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The first back pack is white. The second one is very dark white almost black. The first jacket has white buttons, the second jacket has dark white buttons almost black. The first jacket has buttons, the second one looks like a special kind of button where the buttons on one side intermesh with the buttons on the otherwise in a zigzag pattern… I bet those have a name like zigzaper or zigper, who knows.

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• Bwaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Wow. Dark haired male in dark hooded jacket and back pack. Rare. I see slightly less than 30 such most days.

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• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These are all different people, and two of the images look fake.

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• Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  They will find someone that roughly fits the description and he won’t make it to jail alive… Case closed nothing to see here… Or something entirely different may happen…

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The nose I can go either way on. It looks “different” to me but wearing a mask and not grinning makes a huge difference there (it is why you are told to not smile for ID photos). The eyebrows are more a function of angle and resolution as you can see some darkness on the left (and he is obviously scowling and not flirting with a cute desk girl).

  As for the jacket and backpack? Too lazy to look up the backpack models (people figured it out) but the one on the left looks small enough to fit in the one on the right. So he has his backpack for travel and then a smaller one full of gun and snacks and whatever else for the stakeout.

  I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

  Never talk to the cops without a lawyer and NEVER voluntarily talk to them.

  Also? The cops are going to find SOMEONE in the next week or so. And you can be damned sure they are going to take advantage of all of the news and social media about how this is a skilled hitman fighting for the loss of a loved one who WILL NOT BE TAKEN ALIVE. They’ll corner whoever they can pin it on, shoot them a few times, and then plant a gun and call it a day.

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• its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well I’m terrible at this game because all 4 of those look like different people

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• paddirn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I keep seeing the backpack as not matching, I don’t get how these are considered the same person.

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• Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  How do they explain the bag changing colors?

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• Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not even the same jacket, obviously. You can spend 10 seconds and find 10 other differences.

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• TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  auto white balance in cheap digital video changes dramatically in different types of light bulbs

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• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeah the shooter had something more like a rain jacket. But he may have put on the rain jacket that he wasn’t wearing earlier when going out to shoot the guy. Backpack is different, but that may have been stashed in the park.

  But what seems odd to me is that this whole thing was obviously premeditated, but a guy that’s intent on murder is smiling and chatting up the receptionist? I guess that’s possible, but something that further suggests that it’s a different dude.

  We really only have the top half of the faces looking somewhat similar in a couple of grainy images. It’s plausible it’s the same guy, but given the information we have, it’s more likely not. But we don’t have all the information, so who knows?

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• Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Smiling guy is a patsy they’ll try to hang for this to help other CEOs sleep peacefully on their second yachts at night after a long day of forcing 5 day a week return to office mandates for overworked employees with “leadership” emails sent remotely from Saint-Tropez.

  Weird thing is, neither of these photos has the guy… they already know the man responsible for this and many other deaths, his name was Brian Thompson.

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• DrSleepless@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m thinking they’re gonna arrest Timothy Chalamet any moment now

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• ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pretty sure all of those pics are different people. I guess we’ll never find them, might as well give up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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• lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope it’s not the whole gold/blue dress thing all over again.

  However, I read in another post one might just be someone they want to question to get to the master assassin.

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• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not only do I agree, but also it has been my feeling that the Starbucks footage and visit was a performance of some kind, and the water and phone they found were a distraction. Dude seems to have otherwise thought this through pretty well.

  I admit that’s nothing more than a hunch though, and I can’t really defend it against anyone who disagrees.

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