Why doesn’t this exist?
Take dried beans, roast 'em, grind 'em, and brew some bean juice?
I have no idea if it would taste good or not, but we don’t know if we don’t try.
Coffee isn’t a true bean—it’s more closely related to gardenias.
Ok so coffee is made from coffee beans. And beans are *also* made from beans. Why is nobody making, like, black bean coffee?
Submitted 2 months ago by spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 months ago
spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Interesting, but the all-knowing Wikipedia seems to agree with you:
From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_bean:
Even though the coffee beans are not technically beans, they are referred to as such because of their resemblance to true beans.
I’m still tempted to try this, though.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Do not do this with dried beans. Most dried beans are toxic and need to be soaked and boiled for about half an hour to become edible.
From the Wikipedia page for kidney beans:
As few as five raw beans or a single undercooked kidney bean can cause severe nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pains.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Instructions unclear, made chili
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot of things in botany have similar names, but are totally different things. A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC), a “peanut” is no nut, either.
So it should not surprize when one learns that the Cofea plant is a Rubiaceae family plant, not a Fabaceae/Leguminosae family plant, i.e. what we commonly call “beans” like green beans, peas, or, amazingly, peanuts. It is just called a “coffee bean” because it reminded someone back in time of a bean, shapewise.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The question still stands… Where is my hot green bean juice?!
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Have you tried making it yourself? Try roasting and grinding some dried peas or lentils, and report back how you liked that “bean-coffee”. Nobody is going to stop you. Do it FOR SCIENCE!
Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sitting on a shelf at the grocery store. Get yourself some dried beans, run them through a coffee grinder, and make your disgusting concoction using your preferred brewing method.
Chickenslippers@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Everywhere if you’re determined.
morhp@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC),
Close relatives to strawberries are other similar plants like Sibbaldia. More distantly related are roses and lots of other fruits like raspberries, apples, peaches and so on. Hazelnuts are even more distantly related (not super far, but also not super close). You’re probably thinking of hazelnuts because the small seeds on strawberries are technically nuts.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I stand corrected. Somewhere in the back of my mind I had the idea stored that it is closer to the hazelnut than e.g. apples and peaches. I’ll go and refresh my knowledge at the earliest opportunity.
Nonetheless, it’s not a berry.
Soggy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not nuts but very close, they’re called “achenes” (ə-ˈkēn). The only Important difference is that nuts have a thick, protective shell but we’re being specific here.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So if it’s not a bean, what is it? It’s not the fruit, so is it the seed?
WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 months ago
IIRC its more like a pit than a seed, but yeah
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
It actually is the seed of the coffee plant.
pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 months ago
A vanilla soy late is actually a 3 bean soup.
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Unfortunately only in culinary terms, as neither vanilla nor coffee beans are true beans
bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 months ago
My taste buds disagree that this is “unfortunate”.
norimee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The vanilla plant is an orchid and not a bean.
JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
coffee is a seed, not a bean, pulse, or legume.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We do in some cases, you’ve basically described hot coca for instance. But yeah, you might be onto something, roast up some kidney beans and see what happens.
skvlp@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Cocoa comes from a seed, not a bean. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Beans are a particular type of seed.
Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 months ago
Coffee is also a seed, not a bean.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wait, are cocoa pods beans?
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Bean is admittedly a bit of a fuzzy term. Coffee beans are not technically beans, and probably wouldn’t be very good in your chili.
Nemo@midwest.social 2 months ago
Coffee “beans” are closer to cherry pits than any real bean.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 months ago
What about toe beans?
Nemo@midwest.social 2 months ago
Their beauty is beyond compare.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They aren’t close to cherry pits at all.
Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
evening_push579@feddit.nu 2 months ago
Just wanted to add that tea with black beans, red beans, roasted barley, roasted rice etc are common in Japan. I assume Taiwan has the same, judging from the drinks posted above (the label even says the Japanese name in roman letters).
Soggy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Barley tea is delicious.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 months ago
but we don’t know if we don’t try
Someone probably already tried. Every time you are asking yourself “am I the first one to think of x?”, the answer is usually no.
Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe after imperialism / colonialism re: tea and tobacco, folks were less inclined? Or they kept it on the DL.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Less inclined to what, experiment with food? Sounds unlikely to me.
over_clox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No caffeine yo, that’s where it’s at for most people. But hey, ain’t nobody gonna stop you from trying. Let us know how it goes if you ever do try.
heydo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You should know that undercooked beans can be poisonous, and it is best to soak them before cooking.
If you do try this please prepare the beans properly first.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tf?
spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because we’re not criminally insane.
But since we’re on this fascinating topic, here’s a Youtube video about other things people have tried to substitute for coffee during the American civil war. (Hint: not beans.)
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because it would taste disgusting, and it doesn’t have caffeine, so there’s no motivation to drink it.
HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We have coffee. We have tea.
I assume humans have run hot water through every conceivable plant grounds to see what it would taste like.
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It would suck if poison ivy tea tasted really good
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
That’s kind of what aquafaba is but you don’t need to grind or roast them, because most times you want aquafaba to be quite thick. I don’t know how often it’s used elsewhere but I know it can replace egg whites in coctails that call for egg whites.
Soku@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Apparently you can even make meringue with it. Haven’t tried that but I often make mayonnaise with aquafaba.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My elderly relative in Germany used to drink Caro? Carro? coffee. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro_(drink) Barely, Rye, and Chicory. Chicory, if I recall correctly is still in various things, including Fiber Snack Bars. I had to look it up since I didn’t know what it was and wanted to know if it was bad for me in some way. Turns out, as usual, I should be more concerned about the copious amounts of sugar.
SassyRamen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can actually buy chicory coffee. I used it for a while as a coffee replacement.
sznowicki@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah. It’s very popular in Poland among old people. It reminds them their childhood
GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
Edit: I need to see what dried beans I have and maybe go shopping. I will give this a try with a couple different types of beans and report back if I fart or not.
Hope you have some alpha-galactosidase at your disposal.
The simplified explanation: A reason beans give some people gas is due to certain types of sugars and carbohydrates they contain. Those sugars are water soluble. Seems like brewing beans would concentrate those sugars and lead to epic tootage.
Also, one method for reducing how much gas that beans cause is to soak them in lots of water. Basically, soak them for up to 8 hours, drain, rinse, and repeat a couple more times. It works on the same principal, that the soaking process will remove at least some of the problematic, water soluble sugars. Supposedly adding a small amount of baking soda helps, too. I’m less certain about that.
Thavron@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Also aren’t kidney beans highly poisonous when consumed dried?
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, many beans are, but kidney beans more than most. They need to be soaked and cooked for a significant amount of time to neutralize the toxins.
z00s@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“Epic tootage”
I think that was a Miles Davis album
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I think Alton discusses this on Good Eats, and a long soak doesn’t really make a difference.
He did have a solution, I just don’t recall. May have been baking soda.
GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
Oh, if Alton said that then it must be true. Who’s Alton?
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Coffee beans aren’t beans. There are some beans that are roasted as a substitute for coffee, like the seeds of the Kentucky coffeetree. In times of shortage, people have tried many things to replace coffee, like dandelion and chicory root. For the most part, the substitutes arent as good as the original, so people don’t stick with them. There’s a chance someone has tried to roast and brew pinto beans or whatever, but they probably taste bad.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 months ago
Isn’t that what black bean soup is?
dwemthy@lemdro.id 2 months ago
But with all the solids strained out
Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Because of the taste? While it’s not common to brew a drink with other beans, we eat them all the time, and it’s pretty obvious in doing so that they aren’t flavors that lend themselves to a beverage.
Coffee beans are actually the seed of a more traditional “fruit” (ie, sweet and acidic) rather than a legume like other beans (also technically seeds, but vegetal in flavor, with an entirely different taste and texture). You’re basically just going to get a weak broth from traditional beans.
Similarly, people have tried steeping every type of leaf, plant, and fruit out there in water, but it’s a pretty limited list that remains popularly used for tea, as it’s a pretty limited list (relative to the incredible diversity of plant life) that actually tastes good that way.
People use mushrooms, various roots (like chicory), other fruity seeds, and more to create coffee-like drinks, and/so with the number of people and cultures out there with their own tastes and traditions, it’s a relatively safe bet that if people aren’t drinking it anywhere in the world, it’s because they’ve tried it and it just doesn’t taste good.
UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Coffee comes from cherrys
Gumus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I guess you mean “berries”
canadaduane@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
A coffee bean is a seed from the Coffea plant and the source for coffee. It is the pit inside the red or purple fruit. This fruit is often referred to as a coffee cherry, and like the cherry, it is a fruit with a pit.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Come again?
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
COFFEE COMES FROM CHERRYS
WordBox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But it’s already popped.
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Coffee wouldn’t be a very popular drink without the caffeine. Find me some caffeinated black beans and I’ll try it your way.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 months ago
chocolate milk?
Moreless@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Coffee is more red/brown than black.
mvirts@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You could try drinking the juice out of a can of beans 😹
seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Let us know how it goes
sramder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can get it in a can, just gotta’ pour it off before you toss all the beans. Or get one of those big boba straws… pro tip: buy a few cans, there’s just not enough in one.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 months ago
Probably because of how much taste coffee can be extracted via brewing vs black bean. Probably gonna takes some time to extract the taste of black bean, by then it’s might as well be soup.
Also due to the taste and smell.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Ignoring the fact that coffee beans aren’t beans, for the same reason we don’t make tea with just any leaf. Someone braver than you tried it and it was disgusting.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We do make tea with a lot more plants than people realize though.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Absolutely that’s why I didn’t specify a leaf type. Probably could have said poison ivy and been fine though
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, tea is the name of the plant. If its not made from tea leaves its not bloody tea!!
z00s@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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tamal3@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Or toxic! Don’t forget toxic.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Or even psychedelic. Don’t think I need to say not to forget it, because I’m sure you won’t be able to 🫠
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tisane to be pedantic