Why doesn’t this exist?
Take dried beans, roast 'em, grind 'em, and brew some bean juice?
I have no idea if it would taste good or not, but we don’t know if we don’t try.
Coffee isn’t a true bean—it’s more closely related to gardenias.
Ok so coffee is made from coffee beans. And beans are *also* made from beans. Why is nobody making, like, black bean coffee?
Submitted 2 weeks ago by spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Interesting, but the all-knowing Wikipedia seems to agree with you:
From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_bean:
Even though the coffee beans are not technically beans, they are referred to as such because of their resemblance to true beans.
I’m still tempted to try this, though.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do not do this with dried beans. Most dried beans are toxic and need to be soaked and boiled for about half an hour to become edible.
From the Wikipedia page for kidney beans:
As few as five raw beans or a single undercooked kidney bean can cause severe nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pains.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Instructions unclear, made chili
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of things in botany have similar names, but are totally different things. A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC), a “peanut” is no nut, either.
So it should not surprize when one learns that the Cofea plant is a Rubiaceae family plant, not a Fabaceae/Leguminosae family plant, i.e. what we commonly call “beans” like green beans, peas, or, amazingly, peanuts. It is just called a “coffee bean” because it reminded someone back in time of a bean, shapewise.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The question still stands… Where is my hot green bean juice?!
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Have you tried making it yourself? Try roasting and grinding some dried peas or lentils, and report back how you liked that “bean-coffee”. Nobody is going to stop you. Do it FOR SCIENCE!
Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Sitting on a shelf at the grocery store. Get yourself some dried beans, run them through a coffee grinder, and make your disgusting concoction using your preferred brewing method.
Chickenslippers@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Everywhere if you’re determined.
morhp@lemmynsfw.com 1 week ago
A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC),
Close relatives to strawberries are other similar plants like Sibbaldia. More distantly related are roses and lots of other fruits like raspberries, apples, peaches and so on. Hazelnuts are even more distantly related (not super far, but also not super close). You’re probably thinking of hazelnuts because the small seeds on strawberries are technically nuts.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I stand corrected. Somewhere in the back of my mind I had the idea stored that it is closer to the hazelnut than e.g. apples and peaches. I’ll go and refresh my knowledge at the earliest opportunity.
Nonetheless, it’s not a berry.
Soggy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not nuts but very close, they’re called “achenes” (ə-ˈkēn). The only Important difference is that nuts have a thick, protective shell but we’re being specific here.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 week ago
So if it’s not a bean, what is it? It’s not the fruit, so is it the seed?
WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 week ago
IIRC its more like a pit than a seed, but yeah
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
It actually is the seed of the coffee plant.
pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
A vanilla soy late is actually a 3 bean soup.
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately only in culinary terms, as neither vanilla nor coffee beans are true beans
bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 week ago
My taste buds disagree that this is “unfortunate”.
norimee@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The vanilla plant is an orchid and not a bean.
JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
coffee is a seed, not a bean, pulse, or legume.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We do in some cases, you’ve basically described hot coca for instance. But yeah, you might be onto something, roast up some kidney beans and see what happens.
skvlp@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Cocoa comes from a seed, not a bean. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Beans are a particular type of seed.
Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Coffee is also a seed, not a bean.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait, are cocoa pods beans?
Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bean is admittedly a bit of a fuzzy term. Coffee beans are not technically beans, and probably wouldn’t be very good in your chili.
Nemo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Coffee “beans” are closer to cherry pits than any real bean.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
What about toe beans?
Nemo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Their beauty is beyond compare.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They aren’t close to cherry pits at all.
Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
evening_push579@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
Just wanted to add that tea with black beans, red beans, roasted barley, roasted rice etc are common in Japan. I assume Taiwan has the same, judging from the drinks posted above (the label even says the Japanese name in roman letters).
Soggy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Barley tea is delicious.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
but we don’t know if we don’t try
Someone probably already tried. Every time you are asking yourself “am I the first one to think of x?”, the answer is usually no.
Boozilla@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe after imperialism / colonialism re: tea and tobacco, folks were less inclined? Or they kept it on the DL.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Less inclined to what, experiment with food? Sounds unlikely to me.
over_clox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No caffeine yo, that’s where it’s at for most people. But hey, ain’t nobody gonna stop you from trying. Let us know how it goes if you ever do try.
heydo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You should know that undercooked beans can be poisonous, and it is best to soak them before cooking.
If you do try this please prepare the beans properly first.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tf?
spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because we’re not criminally insane.
But since we’re on this fascinating topic, here’s a Youtube video about other things people have tried to substitute for coffee during the American civil war. (Hint: not beans.)
BenLeMan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Because it would taste disgusting, and it doesn’t have caffeine, so there’s no motivation to drink it.
HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We have coffee. We have tea.
I assume humans have run hot water through every conceivable plant grounds to see what it would taste like.
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It would suck if poison ivy tea tasted really good
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s kind of what aquafaba is but you don’t need to grind or roast them, because most times you want aquafaba to be quite thick. I don’t know how often it’s used elsewhere but I know it can replace egg whites in coctails that call for egg whites.
Soku@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Apparently you can even make meringue with it. Haven’t tried that but I often make mayonnaise with aquafaba.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My elderly relative in Germany used to drink Caro? Carro? coffee. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro_(drink) Barely, Rye, and Chicory. Chicory, if I recall correctly is still in various things, including Fiber Snack Bars. I had to look it up since I didn’t know what it was and wanted to know if it was bad for me in some way. Turns out, as usual, I should be more concerned about the copious amounts of sugar.
SassyRamen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can actually buy chicory coffee. I used it for a while as a coffee replacement.
sznowicki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah. It’s very popular in Poland among old people. It reminds them their childhood
GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Edit: I need to see what dried beans I have and maybe go shopping. I will give this a try with a couple different types of beans and report back if I fart or not.
Hope you have some alpha-galactosidase at your disposal.
The simplified explanation: A reason beans give some people gas is due to certain types of sugars and carbohydrates they contain. Those sugars are water soluble. Seems like brewing beans would concentrate those sugars and lead to epic tootage.
Also, one method for reducing how much gas that beans cause is to soak them in lots of water. Basically, soak them for up to 8 hours, drain, rinse, and repeat a couple more times. It works on the same principal, that the soaking process will remove at least some of the problematic, water soluble sugars. Supposedly adding a small amount of baking soda helps, too. I’m less certain about that.
Thavron@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Also aren’t kidney beans highly poisonous when consumed dried?
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, many beans are, but kidney beans more than most. They need to be soaked and cooked for a significant amount of time to neutralize the toxins.
z00s@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Epic tootage”
I think that was a Miles Davis album
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I think Alton discusses this on Good Eats, and a long soak doesn’t really make a difference.
He did have a solution, I just don’t recall. May have been baking soda.
GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Oh, if Alton said that then it must be true. Who’s Alton?
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Coffee beans aren’t beans. There are some beans that are roasted as a substitute for coffee, like the seeds of the Kentucky coffeetree. In times of shortage, people have tried many things to replace coffee, like dandelion and chicory root. For the most part, the substitutes arent as good as the original, so people don’t stick with them. There’s a chance someone has tried to roast and brew pinto beans or whatever, but they probably taste bad.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 weeks ago
Isn’t that what black bean soup is?
dwemthy@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
But with all the solids strained out
Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Because of the taste? While it’s not common to brew a drink with other beans, we eat them all the time, and it’s pretty obvious in doing so that they aren’t flavors that lend themselves to a beverage.
Coffee beans are actually the seed of a more traditional “fruit” (ie, sweet and acidic) rather than a legume like other beans (also technically seeds, but vegetal in flavor, with an entirely different taste and texture). You’re basically just going to get a weak broth from traditional beans.
Similarly, people have tried steeping every type of leaf, plant, and fruit out there in water, but it’s a pretty limited list that remains popularly used for tea, as it’s a pretty limited list (relative to the incredible diversity of plant life) that actually tastes good that way.
People use mushrooms, various roots (like chicory), other fruity seeds, and more to create coffee-like drinks, and/so with the number of people and cultures out there with their own tastes and traditions, it’s a relatively safe bet that if people aren’t drinking it anywhere in the world, it’s because they’ve tried it and it just doesn’t taste good.
UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Coffee comes from cherrys
Gumus@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I guess you mean “berries”
canadaduane@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
A coffee bean is a seed from the Coffea plant and the source for coffee. It is the pit inside the red or purple fruit. This fruit is often referred to as a coffee cherry, and like the cherry, it is a fruit with a pit.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
Come again?
abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 week ago
COFFEE COMES FROM CHERRYS
WordBox@lemmy.world 1 week ago
But it’s already popped.
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Coffee wouldn’t be a very popular drink without the caffeine. Find me some caffeinated black beans and I’ll try it your way.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 week ago
chocolate milk?
Moreless@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Coffee is more red/brown than black.
mvirts@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You could try drinking the juice out of a can of beans 😹
seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let us know how it goes
sramder@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can get it in a can, just gotta’ pour it off before you toss all the beans. Or get one of those big boba straws… pro tip: buy a few cans, there’s just not enough in one.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 weeks ago
Probably because of how much taste coffee can be extracted via brewing vs black bean. Probably gonna takes some time to extract the taste of black bean, by then it’s might as well be soup.
Also due to the taste and smell.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Ignoring the fact that coffee beans aren’t beans, for the same reason we don’t make tea with just any leaf. Someone braver than you tried it and it was disgusting.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We do make tea with a lot more plants than people realize though.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Absolutely that’s why I didn’t specify a leaf type. Probably could have said poison ivy and been fine though
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, tea is the name of the plant. If its not made from tea leaves its not bloody tea!!
z00s@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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tamal3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or toxic! Don’t forget toxic.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Or even psychedelic. Don’t think I need to say not to forget it, because I’m sure you won’t be able to 🫠
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tisane to be pedantic