They’ve just doomed every person in a car on every major interstate.
US will allow truckers to drive 16 hours per day instead of the previous limit of 14 hours
Submitted 1 day ago by Wurzl@lemmy.zip to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 48 minutes ago
nullspace@lemmy.world 40 minutes ago
Well, it’s one way to boost sales on the gas-guzzling, rolling tanks the US auto makers refuse to diversify away from.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
Solves medical debt by closing hospitals.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
Sacrifices (your safety and truckers) must be made in the name of November elections and profits.
liking625@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Just that? I am sure true republicans can afford to do much more for the country, why not 24, or double that, 48! Hail Trump!
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
He truly is a genius.
supernicepojo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Truckers arent going to be driving anywhere if the price of diesel doesnt slow.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 day ago
I don't think most people understand how that will affect them.
DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
After being unable to convince anyone of anything that was going to happen and change even one mind, my only joy is watching them suffer the results of their shitty choices. My next high is schedule for next year when everyone scratches their head on why the governemt needs to double the national deficit to bail out Dario and Sam.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Well they won’t change how they vote, IMO.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 hours ago
We’ve got to remove private monopolies on rail lines so freight rail can be used efficiently as a major alternative to trucking.
TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
Is Elmo’s electric truck ready yet?
reddig33@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Volvo’s is.
www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/trucks/electric.html
Ford and GM canceled their electric delivery vans though. Perfect timing!
nomecks@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
Best I can offer is a Canadian diesel electric hybrid.
3abas@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Has been on the road for years and they’re expanding to Europe next year… Nothing close to original promised specs, but there’s videos on YouTube just asking their drivers what they think, they mostly like them.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It has the full self driving working right?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 21 hours ago
Fun fact: it’s definitely not going to slow. It’s about to get even worse. Unless of course the government decides to subsidize the hell out of diesel to make it cheaper.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not to worry. We can always increase the limit to 24 hours per day, and make them drag the trailers with a bicycle.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
We can just import more meth from the drug boats we blew up.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Not surprising, apparently no one in the USA gives a damn about traffic safety.
durably465@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Deregulation because money.
Maestro@fedia.io 1 day ago
Even the original 14 is horrible. Here it's 9-10 hours per day max, with a cap of 56 hours per week.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
And required pauses.
FatVegan@leminal.space 20 hours ago
I was about to say, they are alliwed 14 hour drives? Clownshit
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Lol. The U.S. is on a suicide speedrun.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
As a non-American, I find it baffling and hilarious that many Americans are proud to work 80 hours a week. It’s not a flex. They’d regret having done so when they become too frail and forgetful at the old age. And all the money they saved and pension being collected will be spent on healthcare and medication instead.
They did not even live their life when they were young and they won’t even enjoy the remainder.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
apparently in academia, they think its a flex for PI to be working that much, granted the competitive to be hired at 4-year is pretty high.
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Jokes on you, I’m young(ish) and not enjoying it already. Haven’t been enjoying it since about 2002.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Didn’t live when was young. Can confirm.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Nah, it’s been a marathon this is just that last sprint before the finish.
nodiratime@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The finish line is a cliff/societal collapse.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
A very rich man hundreds or thousands of miles away accepts the risks to other peoples lives as a great deal.
reddig33@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If you’re driving 16 hours a day, then your cargo should probably be going by rail.
EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Well this is fuel hauling, so multiple stops or loads in a day to service stations. Even if they had rail service set up at the gas station for delivery, rail companies in the US hate small customers like that these days.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Just a couple of years ago in my neighborhood a truck driver was arrested because he offloaded 4000 gallons of gasoline at a gas station, then ran the hose down an embankment next to the station and pumped the remaining 8000 gallons into a creek. He did this because he wanted to go home and didn’t feel like making the rest of his stops. He apparently thought nobody would notice; for bonus points this was right next to a charter school which had to be evacuated while they cleaned up the mess.
He was arrested and sentenced to 20+ years in prison. This is the intelligence level that can get hired as a fuel truck driver (TBF I’m sure they’re not all that stupid).
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 hours ago
Hm now I’m wondering how the volumes compare, between what one truck carries and how much one gas station stores.
I just noticed I have no idea how large those burried tanks are.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
The only way this would be more efficient would for direct piping but this would be less efficient as you would need to create a network and not all stations would want to sign up. The airports in the UK operat this but this was so it’s harder to cut supplies off to airports as they are critical infrastructure.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The point is moot. With diesel skyrocketing they won’t be able to drive at all.
altphoto@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
Trump is doing something Algore could only have wet dreams about… Trump is ending the Diesel and internal combustion engine (poorly planned acronymy). He might not like it but as soon as he is out and all the refineries are in shambles something has to replace all that. Probably hydrogen, and battery powered vehicles.
notsure@fedia.io 19 hours ago
...it might be a new benefit in hiring, we'll compensate a per centage of your fuel costs...after two months...and we've earned interest on it..follow my rabbit hole for further financial advice.../s?
Sunflier@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Then the industry practice will be to fore all the truckers with than benefit after 1 month, 3 weeks, 6 days.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
How is someone supposed to get proper sleep working a sixteen hour day!?
black0ut@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Well, if they don’t eat, shower, take a walk or rest, never clean their clothes, do any chores or have free time, they can still sleep for ~7h after they park the truck and make sure the load is still secured.
That’s totally not slavery!
Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
That’s the cool part. You never could get those things. So don’t think this is anything new.
Source: In my youth, I was dumb enough to drive for a few years, but I was never stupid enough to own one…
Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
That’s the cool part. You never could get those things. So don’t think this is anything new.
Source: In my youth, I was dumb enough to drive for a few years, but I was never stupid enough to own one…
fartographer@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I’m sure Tracy Morgan has an opinion on this decision
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Then we’ll be expected to ignore the immediate uptick in related accidents and fatalities
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The news will most certainly ignore it
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 23 hours ago
Or blame it on Mexicans.
MunkyNutts@feddit.online 21 hours ago
Yup, my father drives semi’s hauling cargo, and he’s seen and told me of the number of horrific accidents that happen. We live in the same city and if he tells me of a recent accident he’s seen, it almost never is reported through the news, but that could be biased since I don’t search all of the news sites for it. But when a semi ploughs through a line of cars, killing several people on the freeway that were stopped from a previous accident ahead of them, I would expect to see it on most local stations…but it wasn’t.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 53 minutes ago
Yeah. Nothing scares me more than trucks on the road. I’ve had close calls, heard about many close calls, seen them drive like shit thousands of times. I haven’t seen body parts myself but some of the accidents I’ve seen make me think they were not survivable. I’ve also known people who work on crashed trucks and the stories are pretty disturbing (amount of blood left in the truck, etc).
Trucks generally clog up the highway and it’s clear to me from the many times I’ve seen them ride side by side for miles, preventing anyone from passing them, that they communicate and see non commercial/smaller vehicles as being a problem to unite against. I’ve seen truly unhinged driving from truck drivers. I can sometimes feel for them because it’s gotta be a tough job, on the other hand they can easily kill me and I find myself wondering how much they think about that. We surely don’t need rules relaxed which help abate those kinds of driving problems. We need less trucks on the roads and a better rail system. It’s hard to imagine any of these needs being addressed in the US though. We cannot all even agree that law enforcement shouldn’t be murdering and disappearing US citizens right now… :(
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Like any recurring events it’s boring reporting every deadly event in a city. Like suicides or school shooting. Next your going to want the wether to be news or sporting events to end every news show. Should they hire a different person to explain eather of these things.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Car companies don’t want their advertisement to be muddled by car crashes.
UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Why do you think every other billboard on the interstate is for some lawyer suing truckers? Then trucker insurance goes up and they pass that expense on to shippers and everything gets more expensive. Businesses don’t care because everything’s is owned by the same private equities anyway - so the rich get richer.
DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Unrelated, it could be because of those leftists and their Biden era agendas!!!
gamerdonkey@lemmy.sdf.org 22 hours ago
A couple years ago in the US, they switched from largely paper-based driver logging and random checks to an all-electronic tracking system, which was much more difficult to fake. Basically overnight, every rest stop and free truck parking area was jam-packed, and states have had to expand them since. It’s important to note that nothing about the rest requirements actually changed, just how they were enforced. So, logically, before the electronic logging, a large number of truckers were just flagrantly ignoring the law, and it became evident after the fact.
I wonder if there’s a name for that kind of phenomena.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 day ago
This is like bumping the speed limit up five mph. People are already speeding, now the "enforced" limit is just higher. Some truck drivers push things to try and get more loads in a week. Electronic logs makes this harder to hide, but they still do it. Which gets back to the reason for the rule, to reduce fatigue on the road. Be careful out there, since no one making sure the roads are safer.
snooggums@piefed.world 1 day ago
Incrrasung the speed limit is likely to mean people just adjust the level of speeding to match.
If everyone is driving 45 in a 40, increasing it to 45 means they will go 50.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Except in a few exceptional circumstances this is surprisingly not the case. People drive at a speed they perceive as appropriate for the design of the road. Wider roads, wider lanes, straighter roads, open sightlines, and bigger shoulders will make people naturally settle on driving faster. This is why just blithely reducing speed limits with poxy signs on problem roads famously doesn’t accomplish anything. It’s also why people go bombing down the stroad in your local commercial district at 55+ MPH in complete contravention of all the signs everywhere that probably say something around 35. The damn thing looks like a highway to peoples’ monkey brains, so they treat it as such.
People certainly talk about how “my strategy for speeding is to take the speed limit and then you can go around 5/10/15/whatever over and the cops probably won’t care,” and if you sit there in the passenger seat and actively press them on it they may actually drive that way for as many as several consecutive minutes. But most of them just fall back to their perceptual “intuitive” speed for whatever road along with everyone else. Especially if they see everyone else passing them.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 day ago
That's exactly what happens. And some of those who were "going too fast for the road" are now "legal". Which is what will happen with truckers. They won't be okay with the new 16 hour limit, they were probably pushing it past that already. They'll just see if it they can go a bit more. Meaning more risk for everyone so we can get more stuff consumed faster.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Recently heard someone at work moaning about getting their 3rd penalty for speeding and not being able to take a speed awareness course because of how many times they have done it now.
Guy said he usually drives almost 80 in a 70. Yeah that will do it. He might lose his license soon, but apparently the oldest one does expire soon.
DaGeek247@fedia.io 1 day ago
Well, except for the people that use the policy to keep their bosses accountable for letting them have comparatively reasonable hours.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Bumping the speed limit 5mph kills x-thousand more people per year.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 day ago
Relaxing all these various regulations set up decades ago to reduce deaths will probably do the same. Look for more truck accidents, coming soon. I've seen enough of them weaving and drifting during late night trips before, but it's okay, give them a few more hours on the road.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Slavery.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
In the 13th amendment i believe. Totally cool and totally legal.
VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
The problem will solve itself when diesel runs out in a few weeks, from what i hear the whole fuel production system is strained to the limit, so a even a small breakdown will give ripples through the system.
innermachine@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I think we’d sooner see gas dry up than diesel. If it comes push to shove it’s a lot easier to replace gas vehicles than diesel, there’s simply no alternative for global shipping!
floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
Diesel is already drying up. Local gas stations in my area have already stopped selling it at some locations, moreso in coastal cities as well.
Nonprophet@lemmy.world 1 day ago
‘This is GREAT News!’
-Meth Dealers
LodeMike@lemmy.today 23 hours ago
Hell yeah!!! More fatal trucking collisions LETS FUCKING GOOOO!!!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
if they are supplying cocaine.
Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 45 minutes ago
Don Jr enters the chat ⛷️
jode@pawb.social 1 hour ago
mursejoy@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
The drug of choice for truckers is meth.
UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What could possibly go horribly wrong?
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
Allowing TRUCK DRIVERS to Drive EXHAUSTED is going to SAVE Lives!
-LITERALLY Republicans!
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Anyone got any meth stocks I can invest in?
tmyakal@infosec.pub 23 hours ago
I’m hoping this means they legalize over-the-counter ephedrine again. I was a skinny little speedfreak back when I could pop three of those per day.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
“allow”
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Oh cool. The increase in entry drivers on the road over the last year wasn’t enough…
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That’ll solve it!
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 23 hours ago
I wonder if a bunch of truckers are going to buy a truck newer than 1993 now.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 minutes ago
That sounds safe.