Submitted 1 day ago by Wurzl@lemmy.zip to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
Any truckers in here want to share their thoughts? Is the extra 2 hours of drive time before being forced to stop a benefit for your routes and timetables? Or is being expected to drive 16 hours at a time on every run gonna wear you out?
I’m not a trucker, so I don’t know. I’ve had trucker friends complain about being forced to stop while only a few min out from a delivery. I’ve also had trucker friends complain about driving hours on end without stopping.
Owner operator is much different than employee. If you want to drive and are motivated to do so, that is one thing. If terms of your employment are driver when told to, it sucks ass.
There is a difference between driving straight for 10+ hours and driving and stopping for 10 or more hours…
Im not actually a truck driver but I have done deliveries for 10 hours.
Also I have driven a car for 10 hours straight and hitting that point at least for me driving becomes dangerous the road fucks with your internals… messes with your inner equilibrium and shit… why when you drive you get sleepy for no fucking reason…
So yeah this is greed and a lack of fucking care for human life in general… as per course for the us currently…
Sir, I wasnt driving that past hour, there was an accident and it was gridlocked for the whole hour, I didnt move an inch! Please let me finish my delivery 15 minutes away!
Little nuance to the headline:
administration is temporarily relaxing rules on hours of service by truck drivers handling gasoline and diesel, citing supply and cost concerns.
I truly believe self-driving for trucks on freeways would be a net society gain to get rid of this nonsense. Truckers should just pickup shipments at hubs for local delivery where their expertise delivers more value.
You just reinvented trains, but with more public in the way.
Eh, if the public has all been replaced by AI, they won’t have money to go anywhere.
Ideally, it should be, but this would be more likely to happen in the US.
If you could make self driving reliable you’d have a good point. Currently that tech isn’t good enough, and may never be.
The problem is that ground travel is uncontrolled space, and there is very little room for error.
Highway driving is the easiest to get right though. There are plenty of cars out there already that can handle the highway autonomously just fine.
and may never be.
Yes, if we destroy ourselves some other way before we get there. Otherwise it’s absolutely going to be.
That’s why I’m focusing on highway travel: it’s the more controlled environment. The fact that car companies are offering hands-free highway driving is evidence of that. Local roads are a much more complex problem, and that’s where a human driver is much more capable.
I’ve often wondered why every new passenger vehicle sold in the US over the past decade or so has sensors that let you know if there’s something in your blind spot, but semis are not using this technology even though they have much larger blind spots. I would think you’d see trucks adopting this other safety equipment before they go full self-driving.
First, trucks have longer breaking distances which a lot of sensors aren’t designed for. Second, many trucks carry trailers which are provided by others, so sensors are likely not going to be attached.
We don’t need self-driving trucks for this. This is already how intermodal shipping works: a driver picks up a container and takes it to a rail yard, it gets loaded onto a train, and then when it gets near enough to where it’s going, another driver takes it from the rail yard for final delivery.
The reasons for not doing intermodal are the same as not being able to do self-driving trucks: oversize loads, document-controlled shipments (haz-mats, for example), and mixed deliveries along a route. Almost everything else could be put on a train, but it would take some infrastructure upgrades and likely unattainable levels of cooperation from shippers.
Fuel Truck drivers*
So this is for truckers transporting gas and diesel.
Are they just trying to look good, or are they trying to minimally lower the price of those products before the midterms? Will it even have an effect? It’s not like the price is high due to the local distribution in the USA.
(Unlike Switzerland where the low water line of the Rhine has actually increased the price of importing the gas, beyond the high price on the world market.)
My eye start crossing after 10 hours.
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Currently allowed to drive for 11, shift can be up to 14 hours. Im curious what the drive time will be. As is is maximum safe level. Especially as the baseline. I think there should be outlier drivers allowed to drive more than 11, but not every driver. (OTR low population density, i.e. North dakota/Montana routes)