Submitted 2 weeks ago by I_Jedi@lemmy.today to games@lemmy.world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvVJ1C8MpU
I figured this would be notable enough to show here.
DSP showed that no player input is needed to complete Wolverine’s first motorcycle section. Considering he’s the sort of guy this level of difficulty is made for, even he’s baffled that he didn’t need to do anything to clear the section.
The people who say the game is far too easy may have a point.
You know, when people said “Modern games are like movies that you can play,” I don’t think they meant to emphasize the optional meaning of the word “can.”
This is what happens when you design games by quantifying everything into a number for a spreadsheet so a manager can read a report. Bet they did a playtest with their “target” audience aka non-gamers Sony wants to convince to buy a PlayStation for this game remember execs and shareholders only care about growing the player base. And some manager looked at the playstest numbers, noticed that many people couldn’t finish the section. And then ordered the team to make sure 90% of non-gamer playtesters can finish the game.
Did this start because of the Cuphead gaming journalist memes, where the person literally couldn’t even finish the tutorial because their hand-eye-coordination was just absolute shit and they couldn’t jump over literally the first obstacle?
execs and shareholders only care about growing the player
If this was true, the base version of the 6 year old console wouldn’t cost 650 and the pro 900 USD.
These devs clearly played the train mission in San Andreas and were left emotionally scarred.
I don’t understand why anyone would be scarred by that. All we had to do was follow the damn train.
It wasn’t even that difficult! That meme had been circulating for years, but it only took me like three tries.
The RC plain was by far the hardest part of that game.
It wasn’t that it was difficult. It was that it was just random. And no, driving further to the right alone wasn’t the solution either.
I figure it’s always a meme because half the people here were like six years old when they played it.
Excellent exampl🤣
I saw VideoganeDunkey’s video where supposedly you can press any of the buttons during QuickTime events, even wrong ones and they complete anyway.
Probably for real considering you literally cannot fail those QTEs. Much like the motorcycle scene you can just put the controller down and the QTE completes on its own.
That was legit.
And players do it specifically to see if they can fail and what that looks like
“I love it, ship it!”
Here’s the same from a not shit person:
These about DSP are recommend:
youtu.be/cKG7EXgOoTg
youtu.be/6dgOUqXqvLo
youtu.be/So7wLuuDiHA
(In order of video age and length, newer and longer at the top).
Converted to Invidious links, plus added title and so on. No I’m not a bot, lol:
Flats tests if you can die in the motorcycle scene in Wolverine (3:53 mins) by Flats Clips on 17 Sep, 2026
These about DSP are recommend:
Honestly, 30 minutes is all the time DSP really deserves.
Thank you! I was, and still am, not in a good enough head space to take the time to do all that. You’ve done good, I appreciate you <3
I am one of the people who stubbornly select the hardest difficulty on any game after getting the basics out of the way. I still can see the value of offering a “difficulty level” that lets you simply enjoy the story without being bothered by anything that is considered “hardcore gaming”, such as the God Mode in the Hades games or similar things. That’s valid! Not everyone is playing games since their childhood.
But this is simply garbage. If it finishes without me using any input, then i could just watch it on youtube and not pay $$$ for it. It is a deceptive tactic to get you to pay for something that should be inherently interactive, while your decisions don’t matter in the slightest. It is like selling a movie as a game - a movie is fine if i want it, but gaming as a medium lives from the interactivity.
A lot of people have very intense opinions about game difficulty in every direction, but I think all of us would agree with that
I personally like my games being hard, making me think and make deliberate decisions between positives and negatives. But I would never invalidate someones experience by shitting on them for using a game mode that allows them to experience the story of the game without any barriers.
This garbage media offers the illusion of being a game. I wouldn’t be against it, if it were sold as such - there are a lot of FMV games out there that are worth their money. But if what you do doesn’t matter, it’s not a game anymore. It’s a glorified youtube video, and should be priced as such.
There’s hard mode, and then there’s hard mode.
Does hard mode uncap the enemy AI so that it can use all of its moves, and allow it to attack from offscreen so that you need to be more aware of positioning, like Ninja Gaiden? Does hard mode add additional objectives so that you need to interact with the levels more, like the Thief series? Does hard mode increase certain kinds of damage, so that you have to engage with the systems more, like alchemy in the Witcher series? These are ‘good’ hard modes, that make the game much more interesting.
Does hard mode simply make all the enemies spongier, so that everything just takes longer? Well, that’s a lot less interesting. Might as well play those games on ‘normal’.
this game has been the best thing that has happened to this idiots career in years.
He’s kind of a pile, so I’d never support him by watching him, but he’s one of those where every few years I check in on the drama. The man has: Masturbated on stream Gotten a girl in a relationship to travel across the country to fuck him, without abandoning that relationship Got that girl to move in with him, at which point she dropped her old guy Declared bankruptcy, due to spending 5 figures a month on a pay to win mobile game Steadily alienated his viewers to the point that he does more begging for money than playing games. Last I heard, he was down to one whale of a paypig keeping him afloat.
A true trash goblin.
There could be a couple of reasons why this is the way it is:
Something I realized pertains to the first car crash.
It’s likely a LOT easier to animate if the devs don’t need to account for exactly how fast the player is slashing up tires. Plus, they don’t need magic tricks to account for a 1…N long stretch of road that accounts for however long the player needs to chase them down (eg, Uncharted 2’s fantastic train level)
So you can definitely see that laziness and a rushed development timeline would just shove out something that looks okay but has no actual gameplay because it’s a cinematic moment playing itself.
With a popular IP like Wolverine I expect it to be appealing to the broadest player base which leads to lazy game design. Ultimately I think it’s a game that would rather be a movie.
Lol.
Found it highly entertaining, and that’s what games are about. I do understand criticism of dumb mechanics and plots and such, I do that all the time, but this simply looks like and is silly entertainment.
Sure, but you paid $70 for it. In the business, people like that are called “suckers”.
Here I thought games were ment to be played. If I wanted to sit and watch something I’d go see a movie.
You should see the driving in 007 First Light. You just hold the steering wheel and when you’re about to hit something “steer assist active” comes up on the screen and it just steers away from it automatically.
Wow, I didn’t know that. Those sections are just supposed to be moments that feel cool and stitch together other parts of the game, so they help pacing, but that game’s use of vehicles in general was pretty underwhelming.
Like how they build up the entire game that you get to use this really fancy car in Q branch, and then it’s only used for a glorified turret sequence. It smelled a whole lot like the scene they wanted to make wouldn’t run well and had to be cut.
I don’t know what part of driving from point a to point b is cool but to each their own I guess. It just feels like filler to make the game feel longer than it actually is.
So what? Enough harder games out there.
If this was super easy mode I don’t think anyone would be complaining but this is the only difficulty if i’m not mistaken.
“Waiter, there’s a huge turd in my soup.” -“So what? Enough tasty soups out there.”
„I hate that there are games for everyone“ — Hapankaali
This isn’t even a question of hard or easy challenge. There’s is no challenge. You can literally put the controller down and the game completes that section all on its own.
I don’t see anything wrong with a game without a challenge.
Movies already exist. If you’re not required to press a single button or steer at all, you’re not playing a game.
That’s a single short part of the game that was probably too imbalanced before release. Play it and we can talk again.
It’s not about the lack of difficulty, it’s about the lack of quality and thought that has gone into making this. Large publishers are now convinced that effortless crap like this is the way to go because it will sell anyway, thus dragging down game quality in general.
The game is not crap though according to reviews. The section was probably found too difficult or clunky in playtesting. 20 years ago this would have stayed in and frustrated everyone like that race in the original Mafia.
What’s a DSP?
A self-absorbed streamer who sucks at every game he plays. Nearly all of the “This is how you don’t play” compilations are about him. The TIHYDP videos of his MGS playthroughs are particularly famous.
What about the 15 minute game unboxing video that has a fire alarm going off the entire time where he never even actually unboxes the game
Digital Signal Processing of course.
In his next video DSP clears the motorcycle section while masturbating
Depending on the time this happens in the game it could make a good pee break for speedrunners
The state of “games” nowadays.
The state of AAA “games” nowadays.
That’s correct!
The state of this AAA game.
Manwhile me progressing to Extinction on B42 stable Zomboid…
“Gameover is a failure of the game designer.”
feels like we’ve shifted the opposite way of how games used to be. you used to not be able to beat a game on easy difficulty (twisted metal for example) now the games are so easy they beat themselves for the most part
Ok, to be fair, this is one way-too-easy game in a general release cycle of really good hard ones. Let’s not stretch one bad point out to a huge trend.
There should be both, no? If some casual wants to play with his Marvel toys on the screen, they should be able to.
Lots of hate for this game. Been playing video games my entire life. I’m 41 and have moved towards cozy games and games on easy because I have enough stress in my life. I’m actually enjoying this game.
There’s a pretty big difference between reasonable difficulty and no difficulty.
It’s also a huge shift from The previous Spider-Man games from the same studio. If you liked those and had the same expectations, you’ll be rightfully disappointed.
I have no problem with this. The game isnhoghly cinematic, one section that you can get through while making yourself donner in the other room is ok, and honestly. Kinda fun to watch.
Don’t bother trying to talk sane here, all the morons want to be angry about it
People still watch DSP?
Never heard of this person
Good
This dude still exist?
You don’t have to do a lot of coding if you never fail
wow they finally made a game just for him
buys a game intended to appeal to the widest possible audience
surprised it’s easy
I remember dying a lot in the 2009 game
Eh, as long as Soulslikes remain popular and win awards, I’m fine with this.
I don’t mind a little challenge as long as I can learn the game and master a skill. I don’t like QTEs at all, and that includes dodge/parry mechanics. It’s like playing Guitar Hero on Expert with a controller, but you can’t see the notes. If you’re doing what the game wants but you’re a second or so off and that napes you lose, that’s a game I won’t complete… or shed a single tear if anyone pirates it or the studio closes. Games that punish gamers shouldn’t exist. If gamers want the challenge they can have it, but it should be optional and not required to complete the story. I’m fine with achievements being disabled for lowering the difficulty, just make the game accessible to differently abled gamers.
I’m so sick of hearing about games that suck. Just don’t buy them, stop talking about it. What the fuck are these people doing? Why must they play every game that companies tell them to play and why must these communities talk about it?
Don’t you understand this is what causes these problems?
The motorcycle sections are not even 5% of the game, I genuinely don’t understand why this became such a big deal. Like the QTEs, they’re not supposed to be challenging, they’re basically just interactive cutscenes and people are acting like it’s representative of the whole game, it’s absurd. Some lonely haters made up some shit to gripe about and every idiot on the internet hopped on the parrot train.
I see… This is another game about looking cool doing something (at least for this section).
Klear@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Now the real challenge - try failing the segment while controlling him.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wonder if you could just turn around and go the opposite way?
biofaust@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think that is rendered as one complete map, probably there is only a short buffer behind the MC.