That “teacher” has interpretation, extrapolation, and interpolation issues.
Hrmmm 🤔
Submitted 1 month ago by MTZ@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
YoFrodo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
its just an AI meme anyways
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t know that it’s AI, but the graph is obviously drawn over the picture. I think the original was just making of the professor for wearing a t-shirt over a flannel shirt
TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 month ago
It’s like people forgot Photoshop exists
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Violent crime precedes ice cream consumption. Clearly crime makes people hungry for ice cream.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You scream, I scream?
lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
While I do not disagree with you, we shouldn’t underestimate the consumption of stolen ice cream which increases both.
Zidane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I always violent crime before I ice cream
taiyang@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I like the Nic Cage movies and drowning deaths correlation more. Lol
texture@lemmy.world 1 month ago
clearly it is, thank you for the heads up
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
ice crime
daannii@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Teaching students to not conflate correlation with causation by pointing out absurd assumptions of causality from correlation.
JelleWho@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My favourite argument is that; The amount of people buying ice creams and the amount of people drowning also looks like curves that follow each other. But less ices creams will not make less people drown. They both go up because of good weather conditions. They do not influence each other.
daannii@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I do believe murders also positively correlate with ice cream sales.
I remember asking my first stats teacher. Something like
“So sometimes it’s obvious that there is a 3rd reason why two things are strongly correlated so we know it’s absurd to assume that one causes the other. But what about when it’s not so easy to tell?. When many people believe one does cause the other. ? (Even in scientific literature). How do we know for sure what is actually causal related and what just looks related?”.
Short answer. More research. And if possible. Controlled experiment using the sciencetific method. Not always possible.
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She then went on to explain the research on video game violence and behavior violence in kids who play such games.
This is where things get complicated.
Violent kids (behavioral traits) seem to be encouraged to be more physically violent by engaging with violent games/media.
But kids who aren’t already aggressive or violent don’t get that effect.
Kids with violent tendencies are more attracted to violent video games and play them more.
Many behavior and social problems are like this.
One type of engagement increases a specific type of behavior that further increases the engagement that perpetuates the behavior.
Things become cycles.
For instance. Depression and anxiety may encourage people to self medicate with recreational drugs. Recreational drugs have long term effects, many of which are increases in anxiety and depression. Which then encourages the person even more to seek out drugs to cope.
Studying phenomena in the world that can’t be investigated with controlled lab experiments is actually very complex and they often have to gather a lot more data and use more sophisticated statistics.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The fuckig disrespect to barely blur this man’s face and post him in a photoshopped t-shirt that makes him look like a piece of shit.
What the fuck is wrong with you? What did this man do to you that you would post this online? You think that blur job is doing anything?
“Relax, it’s just a joke”
PEOPLES LIVES HAVE BEEN RUINED FOR THIS KIND OF SHIT! All it takes is one dumbfuck to not see that it’s a joke to cause a problem. One parent who complains to the admin who grill this guy for no reason. One shithead student who starts a rumor about him.
Fuck you OP. I hope someone plasters YOUR shitty blurred face all over the internet and tries to tie YOU to being a racist, elitist, piece of shit.
MTZ@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The only thing I can say is that I didn’t think through what I was doing. That’s not an excuse though.
As soon as I came back here and say your comment something in my head snapped and what you were saying made complete sense. I immediately erased it and will attempt to think through posts that may be problematic in the future.
Totally my fault.
:(
Ansis100@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Dude I’m sitting here trying to figure out what the hell this Windows background has to do with anything
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 month ago
The image was an obvious fake and this is shitpost community. It wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t very funny but it also wasn’t inappropriate.
Tiral@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s already, people make mistakes and such. Thanks for being reasonable about it.
voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Probably trying to make a point that correlation and causation are not always related.
nailingjello@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Yep. The image is fake, but the graph by itself is an excellent example that correlation does not equal causation.
Rudgrcom@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Best correlation/causation explation:
kcseb@pawb.social 1 month ago
I’m a bit stoned, so that might play a factor but… I’ve just sat there staring at those statistics and graphs in awe for a solid 10 minutes. Thanks for this!
Aeri@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why the fuck did they add an AI slop explanation and image to each graph lol
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu 1 month ago
To clarify, you get the slop if you click through “View details about correlation #NNNN”
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It’s the Correlation vs Causation T-shirt.
UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean… clearly hes wearing a white shirt with ai or photoshop on top of it.
Stormy@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
No, those lines to straight and flush because that man is so buff and doesn’t move his torso. At. All. Ever heard of Iron board abs? That’s this guy. Keeping his shirt logos flush since 1977
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 month ago
only 7 years to save for a house? well maybe i guess if you don’t have major emergencies. i’m going to go laugh madly in the corner now.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No, it’s not about fiat currency, it’s about the changes to the economy caused by the rise of MBAs and business executives who had different ideas about the way business should use profits (stock buybacks and hiring bureaucrats rather than raises and expansion) and what a company should do (make money rather than provide goods and services at a profit). Read some Graeber to understand more. All this was part of the beginnings of neoliberalism which is the actual problem here, and the end of countries following Keynesian economic policies. And in the US the weakening of unions and the new deal also played a role.
Well at least that’s the case for the economic graphs there. Things like single motherhood and higher divorce rates stem from feminism winning the right to no fault divorce and the ability for a single mother to be less trapped into a relationship she doesn’t want. Several of these graphs stem from social changes in the late 20th century.
There were a lot of economic issues under metallic currency including somewhat frequent panics and crashes.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well it’s a good thing we fixed the frequent panics and crashes. That would be dangerous.
DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I believe the correct answer to OPs question is "an object lesson in the difference between correlation and causality.
Or proof he doesn’t understand that difference, whichever applies.
Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A shirt that screams that correlation =/= causation.
mech@feddit.org 1 month ago
This needs a Hide The Pain Harold faceswap.
Kwiila@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
It’s a round about way of expressing that correlation does not imply causation. It was done so that everytime someone shares this meme of a guy wearing a T-shirt over his flannel, someone in the audience can explain that the graphs intentionally represent a fallacy.
redlemace@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Even though you could argue the graphs are right, that still does not mean the variables are related in some way.
crank0271@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Line go up 📈 But also sometimes line go down 📉
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I can’t debate it
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Gonna need to call in the master at debatin.
Mac@mander.xyz 1 month ago
There’s nothing to debate—it’s just an example of correlation.
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 month ago
anugeshtu@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wait, did you know that there’s a direct correlation between the decline of Spirograph and the rise in gang activity?
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The last time I played with a Spirograph was early 2020 so that’s my alibi. I’m not guilty of any of this gang activity you speak of.
Etterra@discuss.online 1 month ago
He’s wearing correlation without causation.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That will definitely not cause any controversy.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 month ago
Clearly he has studied history.
TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
So that’s what Dr Breen has been up to.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
smoking withdrawal and not letting the expletives flow together with therapy mandated to deflect social responsibility for your problems increases the frequency of those flying off the handle. Vidya game complexity increases from pong could be a factor too. :P
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 month ago
110% connected, BTW
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
How are people not seeing the joke
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There are less minor miners and more minor suicides nowadays. Curious…
bajabound@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Looks like something for dataisbeautiful
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
He’s wearing proof he’s a fucking dick.
stepan@lemmy.cafe 1 month ago
he’s wearing photoshop
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
You mean he doesn’t have a crippling case of facial obscuring naturally??
Lirton@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Looks more like MS Paint to me, but can be wrong.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Hey, I wear t-shirts over plaid sometimes. It’s not fashionable right now, but this is a little too judgemental.
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 1 month ago
better to be a fucking dick than a non-fucking one, if I had to guess (seems like what it was made for)
ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Man, David Harvey really went off the deep end huh
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Teacher wore his undershirt on top of his outer shirt. Was it backwards day?
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
this image is photoshopped. i can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
Janx@piefed.social 1 month ago
That’s correct. I checked with David Photoshop and he confirmed it.
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The amount of photoshops has also dramatically increased since 1970
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hey, does he know John Reader and Jeff Lightroom?
pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Ah, a person of culture I see.
can@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
shoop da whoop
Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Now that’s a meme I’ve not heard on a long time.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
There is something about his face that doesn’t look natural but I’m not quite sure if it’s Photoshop or AI
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Its resting DOOM face
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I see it too but it’s a little bit blurry on the details
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They cut his fingers off. It’s definitely AI.
Triumph@fedia.io 1 month ago
It's an old meme, sir, but it checks out.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 month ago
A imagem foi feita em photoshop. Posso falar pelos pixels e por que ja vi alguns shops no meu tempo.
Tiral@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sim, concordo. Me impressiona o quanto a IA consegue economizar tempo na edição de fotos atualmente.