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And no paper towels to use on the handle

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨GraniteM@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • paranoid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mythbusters did a segment that showed the air dryers are more likely to spread germs. So it’s just awful all around

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    • StickyDango@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Environmental Health Officer here… I had a classmate who did a study on this, specifically the Dyson-type where you stick your hands in downwards.

      Next time, take a look at what’s there in the 2mm gap on the bottom inside where the water, etc. collects, and where the forced air blows all that material. Remember to not breathe.

      There’s a reason why we direct food businesses to use paper towels in the kitchen, not hand dryers. Also, because ain’t nobody got time to properly wash their hands for 30 seconds and then stand there completely drying their hands when they have 20+ chits on the go.

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    • rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s a reason they removed them all in my country and they never came back.
      Do you guys still have them?

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      • StickyDango@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Australia, yes. I especially hate the ones that have a button to turn on and have so little power that if you rubbed your hands together fast enough, they’d dry faster via friction than using the dryer.

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      • paranoid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Still have them all over the place in the US 🫠

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  • idunnololz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey I’m an athlete but these foot pull doors are still extremely difficult. It strains your calf muscles, your hamstrings, your kegels, and your core. Opening heavy restroom doors with this spiky foot pull is not easy or fun or comfortable at all.

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      • idunnololz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Our office has these and it’s always been p. easy to open them. No idea why there is a discrepancy. Maybe something about the balance of the door?

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      • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I never have a problem and I’m lazy with a large beer belly.

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      These make more sense, tbh:

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      • JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah the one where we’re supposed to put our forearm through the hook. But you know people would just use their bare bacteria-ridden hands to pull that. Defeating the purpose of the germ-free handle.

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean unless the air blowing on your hands was freshly filtered and uv sterilized that is going to be an issue to.

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    • janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i have lost mucho sleep over the fact that even holding my breath while using an air dryer doesn’t prevent poop gems being blasted into my pores 💀

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      • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        poop gems

        At least they’re pretty.

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        poop gems

        The fecal mist lingering in public toilets is real. That’s why one should always flush with a closed lid.

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      • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And eyes and nose and ears.

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    • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At some point you’ll need to settle on an acceptable level of germs or lose your mind totally

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      • GraniteM@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is true. The Mythbusters episodes about double dipping tortilla chips in salsa and about leaving your toothbrush in the bathroom convinced me that the entire world is covered in an invisible layer of poo and there’s nothing I can do about it, so I’ve got to just try to accept it.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those Dyson hand dryers are disgusting.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Obviously it doesn’t work on these types of doors, but I really liked the foot grips that were installed on bathroom doors at the height of the pandemic. It makes no sense to me why they were removed

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    • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those worked for you? They have always been comically small such that they are barely usable, if at all.

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      • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The ones I’ve seen be a problem we’re so flimsy that to put enough force onto them to open the door you ended up bending them down so far they scraped the ground.

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    • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My last job had those, prepandemic. It was nice.

      Current job has an accessible button to open the door that I can hit with my knee.

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  • Murse@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Any handle or surface in public areas, assume the person that handled it before you had just finished taking a monster shit and skipped the handwashing before rubbing their pathogen-factories all over it. Photo in OP, there’s not really a good option, so you’re in damage control mode… check for toilet seat liners that some public restrooms stock and grab one of them? At least that’s something the other people handle before getting shit all over their hands.

    One of the nastiest assignments I’ve had working in a hospital was ‘Handwashing Monitor’. And let me tell you, I’ve debrided infected wounds; wiped maggots out of some fucker’s pannus; cleaned up every bodily fluid our bodies are capable of cranking out from the floor, walls, and sometimes ceiling; helped amputate limbs that were literally rotten to the bone, and wiped a cumulative mile or two of ass crack…

    …apply to nursing school today!!..

    …but anyway, Handwashing Monitor. It is beyond appalling the number of patients, visitors, techs, nurses, doctors, housekeepers, you name it… who’d go in and out of patient rooms without performing hand hygiene; or they’d wash their hands, but for like half a second; or not use soap; or turn the faucet on with their grimy-ass hands, do a thorough handwash, then immediately contaminate themselves by grabbing that same dirty-ass faucet with their bare hands to turn it off. The thing that made that position take the crown above all the other examples I gave in the previous paragraph was the realization that the community who is THE single most painfully aware of pathogens and their origins / mechanism of spreading… can’t even wash their fucking hands!

    …which brings us back to my opening sentence: it’s not advice on sheer ick factor, but a reasonable assumption based on directly observed evidence.

    And no, this wasn’t just a particularly icky hospital: I’ve worked in multiple states for multiple organizations/facilities, and to this day get eye-rolls for asking people to re-wash or even first-wash their hands.

    We nasty. Be a germaphobe. End rant.

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    • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Keep fighting the good fight. Many years married to a germ conscious nurse, and I think I have a pretty good routine now but still feel like borderline OCD and go through a gallon of hand soap a month.

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    • perishthethought@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thanks, Murse. TIL

      Pannus is an abnormal layer of tissue that can form in various parts of the body, often associated with conditions like rheumatoid arthritis, where it can damage joints.

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      • Murse@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Pannus? I’m talking about the ‘apron’ of abdominal tissue that hangs in front of morbidly obese people. Under those things there’s often a lot of skin breakdown and infection - and in one of my patients, maggot infestation - because it becomes a progressively harder place to keep clean as they pack on more weight, then come to the ER once it looks like something from a zombie movie.

        Side note for my larger friends reading this: don’t neglect those nooks and crannies when performing hygiene! Dry it thoroughly, and keep it dry with powder or by keeping a layer of fabric in between areas with a fold so it’s not skin-on-skin. Often those first stages of an infection aren’t painful or anything, so by the time it’s actually bugging you, it’s BAD! Cleaning it can be tricky if your reach is limited, but you can get creative with it - one of my patients would bring a clean towel into the shower, soak it with soapy water, and kinda ‘floss’ into those folds. Dude was pushing 500 lbs, but never had skin issues. Lots of other issues, but he had hygiene down to a science.

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      • ItsNotImportant24@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I thought that was their way of saying “wiped maggots out of some fucker’s penis” and cringed hard.

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  • Kevlar21@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Turns out businesses don’t care about cleanliness or your safety beyond the point where it might affect their bottom line and just install touchless sinks and hand dryers to save money on water and paper towels

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    • ptu@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Using wads of paper towel and leaving the tap open waste resources. This is a prime example where being economical equates to being ecological.

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      • general_kitten@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i work in a business with unlimited access to paper towels, it saddens me how much i have to throw away unused ones

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  • IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I love those things at the bottom of the door that lets you open the door with your foot.

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes and I find it funny that I see them in some of the cheapest, bars & restaurants.

      Sit at a bar and have $3 beer, there’s a foot grab.

      Sit at a sushi bar and get $150 bottle of sake, no foot grab. Bizzaro.

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    • k_rol@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      True, except in this picture, you have to pull the door to get out.

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      • IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know … and unlock the door too!!! So I would only do that after and before i wash my hands.

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  • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve had contamination OCD for the majority of my life, and this shit has been torture for me.

    I’ve been trying to get a ADA accommodation to work from home because my job is in software, but the bastards over at HR think that clorox wipes and a dedicated cube will solve this shit. It’s irritating as fuck that nobody in charge seems capable of piecing basic hygiene together.

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    • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds like someone needs a motivational metaphor to make HR feel what it’s like to sit in a very uncomfortable situation, such as a stinkbomb in their office.

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      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Raw fish in the air ducts is IMO a better choice

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  • fennesz12@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This wouldn’t be a problem if people actually washed their hands.

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    • Loce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve witness a lot of people won’t wash their hands after taking a piss. In fact some of them take a shit and just walk out without washing hands. These people then touch doors, windows, counters, food plates, appliances, evey fucking common surface… People in the office, corporate buildings, people in suits… so yeah, fuck people, they’re fucking disgusting.

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Less than 5% properly wash. We learned NOTHING from COVID. In fact, hygiene is even worse now.

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    • JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Still would accumulate toilet aerosols over time, and would still be gross. The real solution is foot handles or no door

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But then transgender ninjas can just walk in.

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      • fennesz12@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I take it the janitors wash the door handle regularly, but yeah, automatic door would probably be better.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But we don’t.

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      • gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Who the fuck is “we”!?

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Grab the handle with your butt cheeks. it’s a talent/skill you can hone

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    • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I use my scrotum like an oven mitt

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i didn’t know we had someone blessed by the tanuki in our midst

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      • maplesaga@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I personally use my dick to whip it like Indiana Jones.

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    • dickalan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      good thing i’m drop ball world champion then

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  • HelluvaKick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Touchless sinks are the worst fucking tech ever. Shit never works, and when it does, it never gives you enough water to get a good hand wash

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    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even just a button with a timer you can mash is better

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    • MrShankles@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And it never gives you warm water

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      • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh that part is easy! Just hold the water in your mouth until it’s warm then dribble it onto your hands!

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    • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re also terrible at recognition if you happen to have a darker complexion.

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    • Jojowski@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You have to ask nicely!

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  • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know the pain, but both of those touchless options always suck. The water never stays on or doesn’t turn on unless you motion in one specific weird spot that’s either too close or too far away. And those dryers never dry your hands well enough. I’m grateful they never had touchless doors in the same way.

    Though I have seen newer foot style doors that have a small piece of metal at the bottom you can “grab” and pull open.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How am I supposed to trap a velociraptor in the bathroom with a handle like that?

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    • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Install games on its phone

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  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yess so you go into the stall and grab some shit tickets so you don’t have to touch the door handle and then Ooop they didn’t put a trashcan anywhere near the door.

    I understand not everyone is gonna shell out for a hook so you can operate the door with your foot, but at least put a trash can in throwing distance of the door so I don’t have to touch the nasty ass handle with my clean hands.

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    • CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      shit tickets

      lmao

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  • miellaby@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This thread renforces my theory that hygienism is a bastard of capitalism. So much useless worries but in the same time so lucrative

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are plenty of ways to make this better. Most of it’s theater because there’s nothing really wrong with touching the door, but some of the ways are not even expensive to make it comfortable for germaphobes.

    Single bathroom doors always swing out

    Copper-plate the handles

    If you have to swing in, add a foot handle.

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    • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plenty of stuff wrong with touching the door, considering how many people don’t wash their hands…

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      • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What else do they touch? How many are employees? The door is only gross because you know it’s being touched. EVERYTHING is being touched, and something like 50% of people don’t wash their hands properly or at all.

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    • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only reason touching doorknobs is gross is because people don’t wash their hands.

      Unless you’re willing to opt in to some kinda bathroom panopticon that locks the bathroom until everyone trying to leave has properly washed their hands, it’s probably best to just avoid a knobbed door.

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      • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Those same people are touching everything else in the store/world. The employees have touched every item on the floor. half of those don’t wash their hands. The door only feels gross because you have no doubt.

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  • Danarchy@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would simply pinch the handle between my absolute dumptruck bootycake cheeks

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  • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This reminds me of a sign I saw at a restaurant bathroom recently.

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  • Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I saw a bathroom like this that had the metal thing for you to pull the door open with your foot instead.

    The door required the handle to be turned in order for it to open.

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, I just open doors to public bathrooms with my elbow, or whatever else can push thing down while I push door open. 🤷‍♂️

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      • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I usually have a coat of some sort on and just open it with my hand in my pocket

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    • Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I saw one mounted on the outside of the door once…

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  • saltnotsugar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I always bring two dinosaur grabbers. One for me cock, and one for the door.

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    • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      might one say “one for the cock, one for the lock”?

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  • Tabooki2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Geez I guess some people never go outside into the world of germs

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  • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you simply cut your hands off these petty grievances will become a distant memory.

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  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The bathrooms outside the lobby in my work building take this automatic crap a step further, with automatic soap machines. It’s hit or miss if any given one will have soap at all. (Thankfully, we have another sink inside my work itself that employees can use, but guests are fucked.)

    Then when they do dispense soap, it’s the foam shit. So it looks like the sink just spit into my hands.

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  • kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In the University of Bremen it’s full of big red buttons everywhere to avoid touching handles.

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  • 843563115848@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, that’s why you grab one or two wads of TP and stick them halfway in a pocket before you reach the sink. If the establishment isn’t smart enough to put a trash can near the door, they have obviously chosen to have wads of semi wet TP on the floor.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If even the doors stop touching me, what will I have left?

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shout out to S shaped hallway with no doors 😭you’re the real mvp

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  • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Elbow for the doors and whatever I’m wearing for drying.
    …harvard.edu/…/the-bacterial-horror-of-the-hot-ai…

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  • zat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    LOLNEIN has this catchy song about exactly that…

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdESLgw7z5Y

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even better if the door opens touchless on payment from the outside but has a handle to pull on the inside.

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