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The developers of PEAK, explaining how they decided on pricing for their game.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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  • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Little different for me:

    $1 - 5 = $5

    $6 - 12 = $10

    $13 - 20 = $20

    $21 - 50 = $50

    $51 - 70 = $100

    $70 = $1000

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    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s basically right.

      $70?

      I could buy a car for that kinda money.

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      • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You just reminded me of a time when $70 felt like nearly unlimited opportunities. Now, $70 means that I might get to buy groceries AND restock on spices.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No way $6 is $10 to you and not $5 this is how I know you’re lying.

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      • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not saying it’s rational, it just feels like more money.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same, quite a bit of difference to me.

      $1 - 7 = how many of these are they going to charge? 100+ dollars

      $8 - 70 = round to nearest $5

      $70 = irrelevant collector’s edition

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Been quite a long time since I spent over £35 in a game

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      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.

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  • Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    60+ Haha, I can’t imagine it’s worth it. 20-59 Buy if it comes strongly recommended. 10-19 Impulse buy if the description and screenshots look cool. 1-9 Buy if I like the store thumbnail. 0 Hahaha FUCK no this will hold the game flow hostage every few hours to get me to pay infinite money.

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    • Electric_Druid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does my game’s thumbnail please you, m’lord?

      store.steampowered.com/app/…/No_More_Mages/

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      • dryfter@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll probably never play it, but the game looks cool and I can appreciate someone else’s hard work, so Imma buy it.

        Good speed on your journey!

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      • baropithecus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not necessarily my cup of tea, but at two bucks it’s basically free, so…

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      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not the one you asked, but I do like the art. Though I’m not a fan of beat em ups.

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      • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s really fun, reminiscent of old-school platforming, absolutely worth the $2 and it runs great on the Steam Deck! Good job!

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      • dipcart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Quick question for a game dev:

        How does getting steam deck verified work? Like do you reach out? Or do they just check whenever they get to it?

        Cool looking game! If I wasn’t deeply unemployed right now I would buy! Hopefully soon

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      • Camille_Jamal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Main previews won’t load for me right now I’m using mobile tho but yeah the banner looks great

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    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      0: Hahaha FUCK no this will hold the game flow hostage every few hours to get me to pay infinite money.

      supertuxkart.net
      www.wesnoth.org
      xonotic.org
      freeciv.org

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      • p0358@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Super Tux Kart is very underrated, super fun game actually 

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      • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wish Armagetronad wasn’t so forgotten and had more people in the server :(

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      • zecg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        www.beyondallreason.info

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    • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mine is more:

      $0.00: Is it FOSS, or is it on GOG? Is it DRM-free? Cool. (see: Luanti/MineTest, OpenTTD, Battle for Wesnoth, Beyond All Reason, FreeCiv, FreeOrion, Remnants of the Precursors, Endless Sky, The Ur-Quan Masters, Mindustry, Jill of the Jungle Trilogy, etc)

      $0.01+ - $4.99: Is it in eXo? I'll get it that way.

      $5+: I can't imagine buying it if there's anything either in the FOSS category or in eXo that does the same thing.

      And 99% of the time, if there isn't, straight to torrents.

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    • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bloodborne Nightmare Kart costs 0

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For me it’s

      1-4 might buy and never play it
      4-12 eh if it’s got good reviews and it’s my genre it’s a potential impulse buy
      12-25 it’s got to be very acclaimed and I have to desire it strongly
      25-35 if it’s like the sequel of a game I loved A LOT, and has good reviews, and it gets me on a good day
      35+ no way, I’ll wait for a discount

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      • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As someone who came to PC gaming from decades as a console gamer it blows my mind how cheap PC gaming is once you get over the initial cost of the PC.

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    • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I thought this was age instead of price until I got to 0.

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t let me tempt you with !freegames@feddit.uk!

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    • mohab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, this is fun, lemme do mine:

      1-5: It’s most likely worth the money because I’ll likely beat it and have fun even though it won’t land in my all-time favorites.

      5-10: I’m hesitant, but it’s probably worth the risk or it’s niche and I need to support the developer.

      10-15: I either know for sure I’ll have a lot of fun with it or I’m desperate to play anything new because my library feels a little stale RN.

      15-20: It better be fantastic and end up an all-time favorite because why would I pay this much for a video game.

      20-60: I’m good. I can wait.

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    • Pyro@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      0: this will stay in my backlog forever

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unless it’s free because it’s open source!

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      • Camille_Jamal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Netscapes?

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    • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s been a lot of good games for free on epic, and epic still pays the dev/publisher for it, so it’s worth clicking the button even if you don’t download it and play it from thier client.

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  • exu@feditown.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Am I weird for rounding 8 to 10??

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    • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No. 8 is closer to 10 then it is to 5

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      • cecilkorik@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m Canadian, so I instinctively just round 5 bucks up to 8 bucks instead (adding exchange and tax)

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    • TommySoda@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but what about $7.99?

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      • Mika@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Closer to 800

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      • exu@feditown.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s 8, so also 10

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      • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As a Canadian, that’s 10 bucks cause of tax

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    • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no, completely valid, but pricing is a psychological question rather than a math question for some.

      reason for example products are priced with X.99

      some people se it as cost X amount, others (like youself) see it as X+1 amount. the 0.99 is the extreme end of the psychology and choosing 8 in the case of peak increases number of people who dont see it at the higher price

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    • mohab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      8 is definitely 10. 10 starts at 7.30~7.40 for me. Anything above 7.50 is 10.

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    • StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah. But I think the difference in this specific case is that if you’re already kinda wanting to buy something and it’s 8 dollars, you might convince yourself that it’s basically just 5 dollars to justify the purchase.

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    • Camille_Jamal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As a Canadian, $8 is $10, $5 is $8

      Yeah uhh that’s pretty normal. Megabonk: $22.99 which is really $27

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  • tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    First, these jabronies need adderall.

    Second, I need adderall.

    I think we’re the same sort of jabroni.

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    • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You should go to the doctor and get a blood test. And while you’re there, try to get me some adderall.

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      • Camille_Jamal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh, me too! Uhh throw in some vyvanse while you both are there!

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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  • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a really basic business concept; business 101 stuff. They definitely didn’t make it up, they’re just using it.

    It works against the general population, if this particular one doesn’t, don’t get too busy strutting, there is almost certainly something else that does work on you.

    Buy shit because you need/want it, not because it’s a deal.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same reason that shit on TV is five easy payments of 29.95.

      I’m willing g to spend $29. I’ll even spend $29 five times. But not $150.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I had my sewer line backing up into my basement a couple of months ago. My regular plumber was busy so I had to call in a company that I knew was an overpriced scam (“Dream Team” lol) but I had no choice since I had guests in the house for my father’s funeral. They came and of course they couldn’t clear the line and said they had to dig up and replace the whole thing. The guy had a special tablet that he showed me the three options and the prices on and it initially showed them all in dollars per month with “zero-interest financing”. I was like dude just show me the total cost. The three options were $17K, $22K and $36K total but the monthly payments actually decreased with increasing total price (naturally the payment option didn’t show how many total payments you would have to make).

        Fortunately I called my regular plumber and he was so outraged at these motherfuckers that he came out that afternoon and cleared my line for me. Total cost $850.

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      • AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The only time this breaks down for me though is that I still struggle to pay $0.99 for a mobile app I use often sometimes. Really not sure what it is.

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    • Mniot@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It works against the general population, if this particular one doesn’t, don’t get too busy strutting, there is almost certainly something else that does work on you.

      That is very well put! I feel like I’ve talked to so many people who see one ad that doesn’t land and say, “ads don’t work on me.”

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The $8 tier has been around for a decade, for exactly this reason. MMO subscriptions, bargain games, podcasts, delivery fees. People love charging you $8

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  • CMLVI@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Finally, someone who thinks like me

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  • SethranKada@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For me, it goes:

    0 - hell no

    1 to 5 - sure why not, that’s about as much as a bottled drink.

    6 to 10 - maybe once a month.

    11 to 15 - better be a pretty damn good game, or I’m refunding.

    16 to 20 - I’m waiting for a discount, not worth it.

    21 to 60 - hell no

    61+ - I’m blacklisting your company from my recommendations.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I get that this is Lemmy and users here are a certain way but calling anything over 16 dollars not worth it is genuinely insane.

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      • fishy@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I’m with you. There’s tons of games I’ve paid a lot more than $16 for that I would absolutely tell past me to buy again instantly. Most recently Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. $40 with all dlc and I’m over 100 hours in, enjoying every minute. Over 100 hours of entertainment from something that cost me less than an hour of labor, in what world is that not worth it?

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You can always do the XKCD trick
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        But even this seems to have gone stale over time, as retro game prices get sticker (even going up as vintage games come back into fashion).

        One thing I don’t see on this list is “piracy”, which is a bit weird if your line is $15. I find a lot of bargain bin games to be as bad or worse than FTP games. $20-30 has historically been my sweet spot

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      • nailbar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Considering the huge number of games I have that I haven’t tried yet, I don’t think it’s crazy at all to have a high threshold for buying yet another one.

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think for a good game, by a good company worth supporting, $30 is very fair and reasonable, especially if you get more than a few hours of play out of it.

        We seem to spend $60 on movie tickets and snacks for two and leave the theaters after 90 minutes disappointed and never complain as a society beyond saying the movie sucked, but then going to watch the sequel because everyone else is watching it.

        The only reason I wouldn’t personally spend more than $30 or so on a game is because generally everything more expensive is published by a major studio, and thus sucks ASS.

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      • dil@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        imo over 16 it better have workshop support or an active online playerbase

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    • stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What do you have against OpenTTD and Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead? \s

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      • TalkingFlower@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead

        I spawned as a nun in-game on the rooftop of a cake restaurant. I’ve got nothing but a bible to wreck zombies. And there are so many, there is no tutorial, the controls are tanky, the devs are out of their mind.

        0/10

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    • Datz@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Saying indies are expensive seems wild, but I kind of get it since the Steam Sales on pre-2015 games go hard. And easy piracy of anything up to PS2.

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The biggest challenge I have with pirated games - especially Nintendo games - is the controller.

        Yeah, I can get Metroid Prime or Mario 64 or Super Smash easily enough. But I can’t have that classic experience on a PS knock off controller.

        It’s not the end of the world, of course. But I feel it.

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    • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I found some good stuff in the F2P demo/early access. Especially if you’re just looking for a few hours of fun. Every now and then you can find a release F2P title that’s not monetizing you. But without the marketing budget or polish they don’t take off in popularity.

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    • TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some of the best games i’ve ever played are in the 1-10 range. With that in mind, i do brlieve that a 60+ game would at least be über eccellent and have much to do. Which might unironically make such games bloated, if they weren’t costly that is.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile factorio devs being chads and going with a round number for pricing.

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  • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i get it but for me 8 is 10

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  • xeekei@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The best bang for buck Steam purchase I’ve done is Halo MCC for 39,99€. Five great games plus Halo 4.

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  • AstroLightz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For me, the price listed is the price listed. If it’s $5, it’s $5. $8 is $8, etc.

    This kind of ratio would just confuse me otherwise.

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  • Darkness343@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A reminder that you don’t need to know advanced maths to be a developer. Just call the necessary functions to do the job

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That trick with the $ x.99 all over again.

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  • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For something that makes absolutely no sense at all, this makes a lot of sense.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is just this scene from The Jerk in written form.

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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We supposedly evolved to perceive values logarithmically. The difference between 1 to 3 should feel bigger than 3 to 5. Yet, the difference between $5 and $10 feels way more than the difference between $1 and $5.

    Maybe I’m just broke as shit and think $10 is a lot of money

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  • cybernihongo@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good thing I didn’t buy this game. Or continue to buy anything from steam. I got lost trying to figure out what this is even talking about, other than money money money.

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  • Cellari@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The crafty madmen

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  • lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just round up to the nearest multiple of 5. Who the hell rounds down when looking at prices?

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  • Sirence@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No way. 7.99 is 10

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  • FirmDistribution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    they could just’ve said they smoked weed

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  • gegil@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For me: Under 100₴ - free 100₴ - 300₴ - it must be worth it for me to buy it. More than 300₴ - i will never finacially recover from this purschase.

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  • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So their greedy assholes that admit to price manipulation…

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  • TomMasz@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I get it, but it reads like Trump talking.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nothing new tbh. How we subconsciously round off numbers is a big part of super market pricing. Everything with a zero at the end seems bigger. Not only does 19.99 seem much smaller then 20, but even 21.99 seems smaller then 20 at a glance.

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  • 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re outta line, but they’re right

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  • Whitebrow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unfortunately up here the Benjamins to beaver bucks conversion rate sucks. And then we have to pay 15% tax on top.

    So anything that’s trying to follow that logic breaks apart real quick, even when there’s 10% off on launch, still comes out to more than the full price would be… :(

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  • voidsignal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s Math, then there’s Math By Marketers

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  • ragas@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Still waiting for ANNO 1800 with all extensions to fall to the 5$ category. Until then, I’m enjoying me some ANNO 2070.

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    8 bucks is definitely 10 bucks in my book. 6.99 is 5 but above that and I start thinking 10.

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