Latitudes

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• exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I find that so crazy. I’m German and for us Italy is always the sunny south where it gets much too hot for us. The USA iseems more like us climate-wise. I’d always thought New York would be a little like Berlin. Crazy to see how far south most of the US actually is.

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  • F04118F@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    AMOC doing some heavy lifiting

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Atlantic_meridional_overturnin…

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Also the Mediterranean acts like a huge heat buffer. It basically stops the polar winds from reaching southern Europe.

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    • KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      A large part of it is also simply the fact that at the midlatitudes westerlies dominate, which means that western Europe receives mild air from the ocean, while the US east cost receives more extreme weather from the continent.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That current getting phased out though.

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  • pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The crazy bit is how far north Europe is, relative to the climate we get. Almost everywhere else this far north is freezing

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    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Imagine the chaos in Europe if the ocean currents fail to bring warm temps up from the tropics and the UK, Germany, etc all start to get weather similar to mid-northern Canada which even Canadians try their best to avoid.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The US is fucking huge. A lot of our weather up north is closer to yours, but we’ve got deserts, rainforests, Florida is just outside of the tropics, etc. There’s a huge variety of climates here. The US is larger than all of Europe, by quite a margin. East to west it’s wider than Lisbon, Spain to Moscow, Russia. North to South it’s pretty much identical to Europe. (Technically Europe is slightly larger with the Scandinavian countries sticking out pretty far north.)

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The US is fucking huge…The US is larger than all of Europe, by quite a margin

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      It is hilarious to imagine if this were real. Like what would European explorers and Settlers have done if they started mapping it out and went “wait a minute…”

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    • foo@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Lisbon is in Portugal btw. (But that doesn’t change the distances.)

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I like to point out that New York to LA os essentially the same distance as Moscow to Lisbon, while Seattle to Miami os about the same as London to Baghdad. That’s why St. Louis was the furthest west MLB team until the 50’s. The logistics for US sports are insane

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  • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The weather in New England and upper New York is very much like German weather, and sometimes worse. We’ve had snow on the grounds since the 30th of November and it’s only barely reached 0C in the last week.

    It was -15C a couple nights ago at roughly the latitude of Rome, next to the ocean too. And only about 50km northwest (inland) it went down to -30C.

    This has been a colder December than average for the last decade, but we have mountains that regularly get meters of snow each winter, and they are way lower elevation than the alps too. Also as we all know the last decade has been stoopid warm.

    Mt Washington has measured the highest wind speed in the world.

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  • bonenode@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The USA iseems more like us climate-wise.

    You’d think that knowing about Texas, New Mexico or Nevada? You probably have seen how it looks around Las Vegas at least.

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  • huf@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    based on what i remember, NJ (and NYC) had weather pretty similar to budapest. now, i’ve never been to berlin but i cant imagine it’s that different from budapest, just a bit colder.

    so yeah, their weather is weird :)

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    great place to grow olives though.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I always pictured Berlin as like the Midwest but with less tornadoes

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  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    New York is in line with Lisbon more or less

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Gibraltar is about the same latitude as the Virgina/North Carolina state line. So southern Europe essentially ends halfway down the US Eastern seaboard

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• Jentu@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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  I was just thinking about this regarding climate the other day and found this interesting graphic on climate similarities in the US.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Were they limited in colours?

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    • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      More than 4 colours? In this economy?

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    • andmonad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_color_theorem

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Too many colors on a map looks busy, as long as none are touching with the same color then it’s good. In fact, the fewest number of colors you can use without any touching is usually the best

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  • blujan@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Even suggesting that either mexico or india have a single climate is crazy to me

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    • Jentu@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t think it’s implying the boundaries are singular climates. I think it’s more like “the variance of climates in this area are similar to the variance of climates in this other country”. It’s a bit hard to see, but there are names of cities labeled on the map as well. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but I’m inferring that Shanghai and Tokyo have similar climates to each other because they’re very close on the map in NC.

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  • peteypete420@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Philly, which lies in the japan part of this map, has a real nice cherry blossom festival. Im sure it lacks in comparison to Japan at the right time of year, but still its pretty dope. And yea philly has cherry blossom trees randomly sprinkled about.

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ngl that could be a real map of territories after Trump is done cutting the US up and handing out the pieces to his buddies abroad.

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Trippy pic bro

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• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is also a really great illustration of colorblindness. I actually didn’t even see Italy until I read the comment about the boot.

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image

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    • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Secketly?

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  • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks, didn’t realize until I read this lol

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• arin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ocean currents do a lot more to even out the weather

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  • yopyop@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah thank you to the gulf stream. Too bad that global warming will make it disappear ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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  • KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Also wind patterns. At the midlatitudes westerlies dominate. So the east coast has a continental climate (cold winters, hot summers) while the west coast does not (the oceans make the summer and winter mild)

    You’ll see that the west coast cities on the same latitudes of their European counterparts have a very similar climate (as opposed to east coast cities, which have a very different climate than their latitude-counterpart.

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  • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So do the Great Lakes. Although, currently the lakes are generating their own weather.

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• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Everybody’s wrapped up in the climate / weather discussion, but the thing that surprised me a bit more was the difference in sunset / sunrise.

  I was working on an international team (i.e. a bunch of Americans + one dude from France).

  Back in those ancient times, video calls with everybody’s face included weren’t necessarily the standard, and even when we did them, everyone was typically in an office environment.

  Anyway, one late afternoon (for us in the USA) we did a team video call and our French counterpart was sitting outdoors in his back yard and it was still light outside. Although we knew it was 10 p.m. where he lived, it looked closer to the amount of sunlight we’d typically see around 7 or maybe 8 p.m. here in mid-latitude US.

  It was kind of interesting, because even in the height of summer at the very highest elevations, it’s going to be very dark here at 10 p.m.

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  • BigDiction@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Location in the time zone is also a factor. France is near the far west of CEST.

    For example Michigan is in the far west of EST. The sun rises 30-40 minutes later than in New York, and you do get light at 10pm in the height of summer.

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  • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This was a cool thing about living in Seattle and any further north - in the summer it’d be dusk until 10pm. And the in the winter the sun would basically never appear. I guess it was less “cool” and more “insanity producing” but locals were used to it.

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  • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As a kid, I hated going to bed at 9:30 because the sun was still up

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  • Grabthar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Cameras are pretty good at taking in light and giving a false representation of how you’d experience it if you were actually there. You see it at televised sporting events where it looks like twilight but they have to tell the viewers at home that it’s full dark there. I’d imagine at 10pm, his web cam was just doing a much better job seeing than a human eye could.

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    • amda@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I live just across the Canadian border (below the 45th parallel still) and it’s pretty bright at 10PM here also (that is around the summer solstice of course). So while the camera/software might have been boosting brightness, the difference in latitude still seems to make a big difference!

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  • huf@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    yeah, 16 hours of daylight during summer means even more time for the daystar to hammer us with its heat. and the flipside is 8 hours of sunlight during the winter and it getting dark by 4pm.

    but those long, bright summer evenings are nice when it’s not 2138219219 degrees.

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• AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Comparing similar latitudes in north america to where i live in sweden is a wild experience. The average temperatures are double, sometines almost triple, during summer.

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  • fonix232@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    On which scale? Because that kinda matters.

    Celsius? Kinda hot but not necessarily deadly.

    Kelvin? You've turned your city into an air fryer.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They live in Sweden so Celsius

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    • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      On which scale? Because that kinda matters.

      The rate of sweat I produce, in terms of ml of sweat per minute.

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    • titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ever visit Phoenix?

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Which way? Because it gets incredibly hot in the Canadian prairie. There is no body of water to regulate temperature so the summers can get serious heat waves while the winter is absolutely frigid. Granted, Edmonton is still considerably further south than Stockholm.

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• mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  All the immigrants from Southern Italy coming to New York:
  “It’s the same latitude, it’ll be just like home!”

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That actually really fucked up the first French attempts to settle the St. Lawrence river. They knew it was a similar latitude as Paris so they were completely unprepared for their first winter in Quebec City.

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• call_me_xale@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Why… why is Philadelphia spelled with an “F”?

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s translated into French it looks like.

    Did you not notice “Virginia Occidental”?

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    • kungen@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s Spanish, no? Philadelphia in French is Philadelphie.

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They translated “west”, but not “new”.

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    • EstraDoll@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s really fucking with me that almost everything is the exact same except for Filadelphia and Virginia Occidental. Just enough to look the same in English with like 2 tiny differences

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  • bryndos@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Virginia Occidentale has a nice ring to it. It''d fuck up John Denver too.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      🎵 Portami a casa, vie di campagna 🎶

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  • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The meme maker was threatened with a cease and decist order by Kraft-Heinz.

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  • Kefla@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why would you spell it with a ph?

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• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The US could indeed become the next italy, politically

  a once great empire that crumbled

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• Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I already knew. My dad lives in southern France and naar him is a sign near the road where the 45th parallel crosses.

  That’s the border between the states and Canada…

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  For context this puts Rome about north enough to get snow hurricanes were it on the American east coast

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• peteypete420@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So thats why there are so many Italians in south philly

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• s@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I thought the boot was supposed to go below the mitten

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• Hope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The west coast city I live in is just a little further north than Philadelphia and has a very Mediterranean climate so this puts that into perspective for me.

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• unaware@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is related to why the French settled in Quebec iirc. The French king didn’t want to send settlers too close to already-established Spanish colonies such as Mexico or Florida, so he ordered that French settlers would settle in the Americas at the same latitude as the métropole, as he thought the climate would be the same.

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• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This freaks me out.

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• Comrade_Spood@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Damn you could fit like 3 Two Sicilies in there. Which is likes 8 regular Sicilies

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• roserose56@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  When I was kid, I thought Greece was bigger than UK. I was wrong.

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