Oh please tell me this is true!
If it was possible to start fire under water octopi would have tribal civilizations already.
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Oh please tell me this is true!
If it was possible to start fire under water octopi would have tribal civilizations already.
Something smart enough to recgonize the people, what they mean, learn their schedule, and understand how to decieve them, is something that should not be kept in captivity for our amusement.
But “dumb” animals are fine? We even torture them because we think they taste cool.
A lot of animals are capable of learning. More importantly they’re capable of feeling. They should not be exploited in the same way that octopi should not be exploited.
Every animal can react to their environment, including avoiding predators. Not all of them do it perfectly, but it is a basic survival skill for mobile life forms.
The stories I here about Octopi make them sound more like an intelligent creature we don’t understand rather than “lots of creatures escape their cages to go hunting and then return before anyone notices. This is natural behavior for an animal.”
Yes, the mind of an octopus is unknowable, and it could be just acting on instinct. It could also have some measure of sentience, and there is no way to really know. As such maybe we should err on the side of caution and not keep them in little pens for us to gawk at.
The simpler explanation seems to be that the guard was eating the fish, and blamed the octopus when people noticed.
Well that makes more sense. Damn guard!
www.youtube.com/shorts/c98qnyLLTPg
Apologies for the ear bleeding voice over. But it is a cool video showing an octopus opening a jar.
Octopus for President!! (more brains)
Ah, so an octopus is overqualified for the position of US President. Good to know.
My turd from this morning is overqualified. You set the lowest bar known to men.
The only actual requirement is to be 35, which…
ew.
Few octopi live to the age of 35.
If i was a .ulti Billionaire i would dedicate my vast wealth to building an Institute that breeds only the most intelligent octopi with each other.
They don’t live so long, so generations go by fast. I bet we could speedrun evolution of we just put our money where our tentacles are.
Their main issue is being antisocial jerks, they don’t co-operate so they can’t share knowledge and the females die careing for the eggs (which again they might not if they worked together) so they can’t pass anything onto their young either. The jerk part is they also eat eachother sometimes.
I know that you mean well, but that is an extremely ‘Evil Billionaire’ thing to do
Perhaps, but one must consider BogeyTheSwear’s Cephalopod:
we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are
Found the cephalopod.
If you want to read a book about super intelligent cephalopods Children of Ruin the second book of the Children of Time book is interesting.
Intelligence is a cost in evolution, so it doesn’t keep until neccessary.
Multiple similar stories:
youtube.com/shorts/iork5qOyCNs
mishpacha.com/octopus-escapades/
My favorite is one who would squirt water at lights to turn them off.
There are many documented Octopus escape/returns. But some of these details could be new/exaggerated.
I would believe it, those fuckers are smart and if they were social creatures I think they would be in competition with humans for the dominant species . This is an opinion of a person not super well versed on octopi so take this with a good size grain of salt.
Their lifespan is an issue. They live around 2 to 3 years before dying.
Also, the act of reproducing kills the mother. Basically starved to death protecting the eggs. No generational knowledge.
there are social octopuses, like the larger pacific striped octopus. imo octopuses had 150 million years to rule the planet and they just weren’t good enough. skill issue. us humans only had 2-4 million years. i’d say we’re doing quite well comparatively.
Maybe their version of “rule the planet” involved mostly just hanging out in their den and thinking interesting thoughts.
They ruled the planet for 150 million years and didn’t ruin the environment once ? What are they even doing?
We’re clearly superior, who else could speed run the mass extinction end game?
Fire is a major limitation.
Octopi if the base word was Latin. It’s Greek, so octopodes for plural. Technically.
Because English is a bastard if a language octopuses and octopi are fine too.
If it was Latin, the singular would be octoped(e) and the plural would be octopedes
I nominate “octopodusai” to be the new English plural. (Where’d the “a” come from? To make it easier to confuse ‘ai’ with æ because fuck you, that’s why, of course!)
Octopodes?
Ahk-top-o-deez nutz.
English can always make things worse.
So “eight foot” and “eight feet”?
Octopus didn’t memorize shit. They saw fish and went to get them. Security guard don’t give a fuck about the fish tanks, they were at the gate all night.
Can confirm, have been a guard.
‘Rounds’ were check boxes on a piece of paper. TF do I care whether doors are secure, it’s not my department store.
Can rebut; was also a guard, briefly, first with rounds at a remote pulp mill, and then pit-lamping hobos at a construction site. Raccoons and bears and cougars – oh my!
octopi = 25.1327412287183
Approximately.
Welcome, fellow octopodes enthusiast.
Octopodeez nuts
An octopus can squeeze through a hole about the size of its eyeball and transform its body shape almost without limits.
crazy!
In the size of his eyeball isn’t correct at all, the limit is the size of his beak, the only solid part of an Octopus, but I think that he don’t like to squetch his eyeball if it isn’t needed.
I’m disappointed that this didn’t appear in my feed adjacent to the “teaching an octopus to play piano” video for a nice screenshot.
Makes me sad tbh.
Dude was probably a stealth gamer in previous life.
Aquatic Hitman 47
jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 hour ago
Makes me think of Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky. 😀
fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 minutes ago
We’re going on an adventure