America isn’t any better. Depending on what statistic you are looking at, 40% to 75% of all Americans live within 100 miles of the border
Expand North! So much room up there.
Submitted 2 months ago by Gork@sopuli.xyz to [deleted]
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Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lake Michigan isn’t a border…
kungen@feddit.nu 2 months ago
Due to the Straits of Mackinac, the CBP considers it to be so.
J92@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It is a border between wet and dry.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
can ice do more shit in the 100 mile zone or nah?
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Yes and it includes ‘within 100 miles of an airport’.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
ICE isn’t CBP though. They technically don’t have jurisdiction over American citizens. CBP does.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 2 months ago
Considering the relative surface areas, with those percentages you provided, actually, yes, America is less consolidated.
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
The United States also has eight times the total population. I only saw one source that said 40% and the overwhelming majority said either 2/3 or something in the low 70%
rockettaco37@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Bold of you to think any part of the Constitution actually applies down here.
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Well the exemptions to border patrol agents have been on the books for a lot longer than the current administration
spoke0thedevil@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
…of which border?
4am@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The American one
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
The border with the ocean probably, humans love to live on the crust of the land
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Sorry. I clarified with a photo in my post
Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 months ago
buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Winnipeg has almost a million people!!
Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And the spots I left there have like 35 million
expatriado@lemmy.world 2 months ago
when Chile goes to sleep
TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Ayyyy one of the 15% that doesn’t live near the border checking in 😎
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How’s the weather up there?
Pistcow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
#COLD
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
username checks out
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No one lives in the Maritimes and Newfies are a figment of our imagination?
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Tbf, the Newfies I’ve met certainly feel like a figment of my imagination.
Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s most of my family and yes.
Zolidus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The implication of that map is skewed hard though. It’s only cause of Montreal, Toronto, S & SW ontario and Vancouver. 3 small spots compared to the size of the border, with 90% of the border population.
AngryishHumanoid@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
John Candy tried to warn us. They’re preparing for an invasion!
TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Us? You-S-A tarriff’d the world!
<sincerity> I know you’re joking :P It’s legit a potential weakness actually. Trump could invade with very little resistance beyond the border, our population was too focused on trade by land and now we’ve had to reconsider our priorities. Also, the image neglects Edmonton’s existence. </sincerity>
Cort@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, and that whole TransCanada highway being a massive choke point
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fun Fact, a lot of North Dakotans live higher north than half of Canadians.
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
If I understand correctly based on a map and Wikipedia, the concept of “a lot of people” does not exist in North Dakota, though.
I had never heard of the city of Bismarck, their state capital of more than 70 thousand inhabitants, a bit over 10% of the state’s population. But, now I do. I also had not thought there can be a state capital with that little population. (And then this made me curious and I learned that in Germany the smallest state capital is Schwerin, in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and it has about 98 000 inhabitants in a state of 1½ million inhabitants.)
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The subset is a lot of and the set is North Dakotans.
If you have a room of ten people a lot of them can have things in common.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Speaking of Germany, Bismarck is named after Otto von and when he was still alive! Greater Bismarck includes Mandan too, so it’s a bit more like 100k+ people in the area, but yeah it’s pretty small. Lots of the middle west is like that. They need to be consolidated into a single state for the senate lol
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Trenton, NJ, the most densely populated state in America, only has 91k. This represents only 1% of the population, versus 10 in ND. I’m not sure how it is around the country, but of the capitals of NJ, NY, PA, none are amongst the most populated cities in the states. And I don’t really care about the rest of the states (and I like Mass, but it doesn’t fit my example), so that’s that.
You’ve certainly piqued my interest in regard to populations of capitals v. the states they represent.
SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Its pretty cool city with great food and terminally bad traffic problems. Source: live there.
hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
This makes me wonder if NY drivers drive like the crazies on the 401 and gardiner
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
He have, it’s called Winnipeg. Also I love how it stops in the before the Quebec border.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Also, Edmonton
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
😞 Canada
😎 French Canada
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s plenty of room for activities! Like… sledding.
ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 2 months ago
And ice fishing in some spot which you've sledded to.
And freezing.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You can also have a foot race with a Polar Bear. It’s fun and if you win, you get to live for another day.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
It’s because the rest is all degens from upcountry.
T_I_M_P_A@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Fuckin’ hate degens.
medem@lemmy.wtf 2 months ago
Legitimate question: what may be the actual reason for this concentration? Is it weather? Natural resources? Is it political? On a related note: what is the reason that Canada as a whole bas so few people? It is still mindblowing for me that the entire country has less people than each of the world’s top 3 metropolitan areas
bigfondue@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yea weather, but also the Canadian shield. There is just a thin layer of soil on top of the bedrock over a huge portion of Canada.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also this map is fairly misleading. Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg and the entire 4 maritime provinces are not here, and the main reason so much of the population is close to the border is that something like 1/3 of the population is clustered around the great lakes/st Laurence, because people came here by boat.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Further south is warmer in winter
But I think a lot of it is economic. Port cities are where money changes hands, and we’ve effectively smeared them all along the boarder.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’d argue the weather as the biggest one, at least for BC. Northern BC is absolutely beautiful but it’s cold af in the winter and burny as hell in the summer. If we’re talking far north in the territories, I know another issue is infrastructure because it’s much more difficult to build/get stuff up there. Though this meme misses a big part of the Indigenous/Inuit population that lives up there.
Also, this country is just fucking huge, like bigger than I think any of us realize. If our population were to spread out, it would be a very thin spread.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
In B.C.'s defense, imo, most of the land to the North is either too mountainous ^[1][2.1]^, or it has too harsh a climate ^[2.2]^. I think it’s also worth noting that 15.4% of B.C.'s lands are protected ^[]^.
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m3t00@piefed.world 2 months ago
the rest is on fire. burning for decades. wind shifted of late
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They come south for less life threatening healthcare
Seigest@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It’s hard to build stuff in the shield.
Batman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’ve played the game “Risk” so much they have unrealistic expectations of settlement patterns in real life
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
One day my son, all this muskeg will be yours
MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I wish I could move to Tuktoyaktuk
ikidd@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How Eastern Canada and BC thinks Canada looks like.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Drives me nuts that Ontario is considered “Eastern Canada”
simplejack@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Canadian Musket
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
LOL! I believe the Quebecois along the St. Lawrence should be included.
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Accurate.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It’s not my fault my parents had me in the lower mainland, what am I gonna do, move north?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Yes, but it’s on provincial governments to build new cities north with tax money from the south.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Huh so that’s what the 401 looks like
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I have a friend who grew up in northern canada. It’s horror stories all the way down for my warm, balmy weather loving butt. Even my friend from minnesota scared me… I couldn’t believe the canadian terror.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
As if I’ve traveled that much
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
85% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the American border. And yous claim you don’t want to be part of them.
*(runs and hides)*
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
We stand on guard.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The average Canadian
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Donkter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Every Canadian knows that the secret forests of magical splendour begin 101 miles from the border.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
What exactly are you guarding? I figure there’s a reason not many people live outside of that area depicted.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
For thee?
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
If anything, this proves how much Canadians don’t want to be Americans.
Canadian weather is shitty, you can’t grow crops for most of the year. During the fraction of the year where the climate is suitable for growing crops, the variety of things that grow is small compared to what’s possible in the US. And, as bad as winter can be, summer’s no good either. You don’t want to be outside in the winter because it’s -30, and you don’t want to be outside in the summer because it’s +35. The cost of living in Canada is high because you need to heat your home in the winter and cool it in the summer. Almost everybody drives a car because of that “being outside sucks” thing, but cars are expensive to own and operate in Canada. There’s the cost of winter tires, more expensive winter fuels, antifreeze in the windshield washer, plus the constant freeze/thaw cycle wrecks the road surfaces, which results in potholes, which results in more wear and tear on cars. In addition, to make driving safe they drop a lot of salt and sand, which just rusts your car. Because the country is a thin strip, everything is far away, and everything communications-related is expensive. And, a low population relative to the US means that a lot of companies just don’t offer services in Canada because it isn’t worth it to comply with Canadian laws just to get the same number of customers you could get from a single American state. I could keep going on and on.
Yet, despite all that, Canadians huddle up as close as possible to the border for warmth, but refuse to go any further south because that would mean entering the US. As bad as Canada’s climate is, putting up with that is an easy decision to make when the alternative is 'Murica.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One minor correction. The reaaonCanadians don’t drive is not because the weather sucks, Canadians drive so much because our country refuses to build real transit or walkability. Hell half our country is going to court because a few of our provincial premiers want building bike lanes to be illegal. There are other countries with similar climates to Canada where people don’t need to extensively rely on their car to live their daily life.
Id also say that the biggest factor to cost of living is cost of housing, which is largely related to our cities making it nearly impossible to build any housing that isnt detached single family homes with minimum lot sizes and set back requirements. This also reinforces the car dependancy
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Canadian here, you summed it up perfectly. Everyone I know would agree with your points exactly. It’s a bit of a shit deal living here sometimes, but it’s infinitely better than being an American. Just look at the amount of disgust a Canadian tourist has when asked if they’re American when visiting overseas.
bstix@feddit.dk 2 months ago
Canada should join the Nordic countries in a new Kalmar Union. Everything you mentioned is in common, unlike USA and EU, which both span different climates, and thus different ways of life.
Don’t get me wrong, I like both EU and the former USA, but I think there’s just more mutual ground in latitude than longitudes.
cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 months ago
You just described Minnesota, minus the part about the services.
Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Meanwhile they have wheatfields 4 hours north of Edmonton,
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Only correction is that gas is a bit cheaper in the winter
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 months ago
Your instance saved you 😄
Univ3rse@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Hell, the US is all they talk about here on lemmy. I’m not sure they don’t want to join either.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Kind of like all you would talk about is the festering boil in the middle of your face.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Who are you running and hiding from?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 months ago
The Canada goose.
rockettaco37@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Have you seen Canadians during war? I’ll definitely pass on that, thanks.