Jessica
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- Comment on Anon finds a new way to get protein 2 weeks ago:
I didn’t want to get into the weeds so much deep in the comments on Lemmy, but here we are:
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For example, they don’t count anything listed only as “protein” as protein because they don’t trust the manufacturer not to lie on the label.
I don’t think it’s fair to call this a bias. If it was real protein, they would proudly put what kind on the label so it’s likely something like textured soy protein.
Given that this site gets literally all of their information from the manufacturer’s label, I’m sure you see why that’s a problem.
As I understand it, she’s gotten a lot of her information from the data sheets sent to larger distributors like chewy.com as well, which are much more accurate and provide additional information not included on the packaging, such as the amount of ash and carbs.
Their information is also just plain wrong on some accounts, such as labeling Royal Canin as “significantly lower carbs than average” while most experts agree the opposite is true.
If you had actually read what was written, it says, “of 51 products, only 10 had fewer carbs than average”. Perhaps it is poorly worded, but the implication there is 80% of the products are actually higher carbs than average.
The reason they get these wrong is due to a flawed methodology.
Again, they got it right. You just didn’t read it correctly.
What to do next
With all of that being said, you should be using that side as a recommendation for where to start, and if you are taking your pet food choices seriously, you should do your own research by figuring out the most current dry matter basis values for the particular food you’re looking at.
Here is an article that explains how to do that: …blogspot.com/…/how-to-calculate-carbohydrate-and…
I personally use this handy online calculator to speed up the math a little bit: balance.it/convert
The catch is unless you know the exact ash content, which is almost never listed on the packaging sold to consumers, you have to guess, which greatly distorts the total carbohydrates. The best way I have found to get the exact ash content it to just go to chewy.com and look at the consumer questions because someone has likely already asked and use that value, or ask the question yourself and chewy will respond within a day or two.
Also, since at the end of the day these dry matter basis values are completely arbitrary unless you have something to compare them against, I recommend looking at data sheets put together by zoos where they have identified the dry matter basis of various prey species for use in feeding at zoos.
rodentpro.com/…/nutrient-composition-of-whole-ver…
semanticscholar.org/…/NUTRIENT-COMPOSITION-OF-WHO…)-Dierenfeld-Alcorn/9119b1ba4e298635227d69da95636d920eb4b6e9
My take on the subject is you want (in dry matter basis) a breakdown of something like 66-75% protein 25-33% fat and as little ash and carbs as you can get. Wet foods typically don’t have much ash. Dry foods have a lot more. Cats are obligate carnivores so they should have zero carbohydrates.
- Comment on Anon finds a new way to get protein 2 weeks ago:
It’s legit. Her only fault is the data is always slightly out of date because pet food manufacturers are always changing their recipes, which change the dry matter basis values.
It’s all explained on her about Paige, but basically she has painstakingly built up the database by sourcing everything herself and accepting some community input. I personally have emailed to have things updated.
- Comment on Anon finds a new way to get protein 2 weeks ago:
Royal Canine is a cat food horrible brand. catfooddb.com/brand/royal canin
- Comment on Steam now warns about Early Access that have not been updated in months. 3 weeks ago:
DayZ Standalone for you as well?
- Comment on **SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT** 1 month ago:
I’m gonna need you to elaborate on this because it sounds super helpful, but I don’t understand
- Comment on At least 1440p is good for heating my house 2 months ago:
What a blast from the past! It’s the, “Well isn’t that cute, but it’s wrong!” guy from two stupid dogs: m.youtube.com/watch?v=hspNaoxzNbs
- Comment on Diablo 1 and 2 devs secure $4.5 million for a new ARPG: 'We're going back to what made those early Diablo games feel so awesome but taking them in some cool, fresh directions' 2 months ago:
The same composer worked on both as well
- Comment on mama mia!! 2 months ago:
Those are regular jeans and Luigi is just that caked up
- Comment on Does anyone else think the NYPD photos of the UHC CEO shooting suspect don’t match? 2 months ago:
Fuck I had to stop watching. That’s heartbreaking
- Comment on Subscribe now for more clicks! 2 months ago:
- Comment on Screw you, Apple. 2 months ago:
That I don’t recall. It’s just the only photo I could find online. I cropped an eBay photo
- Comment on Screw you, Apple. 2 months ago:
I recall having to buy it separately. I was pretty annoyed about that as a day one adopter. Here’s what the packaging looked like:
- Comment on AND THEY DIDN'T STOP EATING 3 months ago:
Says Snopes: www.snopes.com/…/prehistoric-worms-woke-up/
- Comment on On a lighter note: Why do people still buy fast food? 3 months ago:
I personally have adopted a mantra of if I’m going to eat fast food it’s going to be as frugal as possible so I have all of their shitty mobile apps. I check them when I want fast food, and I generally won’t eat out unless I find a good deal.
- Comment on 🍃 🐑 3 months ago:
I doubt that seeing is how this thing lives in the ocean
- Comment on Old photo of my brother before he lived alone in a cabin 3 months ago:
Oh my god and the wall mounted tube tv lmao
- Comment on Old photo of my brother before he lived alone in a cabin 3 months ago:
Is it though? Why does experiment have a weird double m that’s fused together?
- Comment on Grindr be like 4 months ago:
Lol, yeah I noticed that after I uploaded it, but I was already pretty late to the party as is so I didn’t bother making it since I didn’t think anyone would see it anyways.
- Comment on Grindr be like 4 months ago:
I love that I’m not the only one who’s taken a photo of this exact poster before lol
- Comment on Drink it, I dare ya 4 months ago:
I mean I got some from Costco the other day and it tastes like I literally just cracked open the coconut. The flavor is a lot more complex than any of the more processed ones. The drink is pink too, which I’ve never seen before. Apparently it’s oxidizing and hasn’t been heavily processed.
- Comment on Drink it, I dare ya 4 months ago:
You both should try other brands. I’ve personally been on a coconut water trend lately and this is the worst tasting brand I’ve had so far.
- Comment on *screaming* 4 months ago:
That would be Mr. Hands.
Fun fact: Mr. Hands caused beastiality to become illegal in the state of Washington
- Comment on Protect Your Dick Data 4 months ago:
Don’t fast food restaurants usually have a camera pointed at their dumpster? XD
- Comment on This game is Saddam good 4 months ago:
I had to switch to a beta compatibility build to even move my mouse after launching. Then it had one of the most annoying bugs I’ve ever encountered. The mouse slowly drifted towards the top left of the screen during normal mouse movement, but only when the mouse was moving. After I changed the resolution to my native resolution, that bug went away, and I was able to play for like an hour without issue.
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- Comment on First Ever REBIRTH in NES Tetris 4 months ago:
You play the dark green level 235 for 800 lines. Normally levels are only 10 lines
- Comment on Stuck in my head now 4 months ago:
Lou Bega - Mambo No. 5 (A Little Bit of…) m.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_LN3XEcnw
- Comment on Help me to settle on a face design for the character I've just added to my game, called The Humorless Toaster. (It's only here to make toast, not listen to your nonsense.) 5 months ago:
This is how I keep seeing option 1 where the longer line is a chin/fat roll 😅
- Comment on I just want to make cookies :( 5 months ago:
Ah yes, the fartenheit system
- Comment on Bread 5 months ago:
When you say de-air, do you gently squish the whole loaf as well to effectively vacuum seal it?
