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Bungie confirms it stole art once again, will undertake a 'thorough review' of Marathon assets

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/artist-accuses-bungie-of-stealing-her-designs-for-marathons-art-i-am-tired-of-designers-from-huge-companies-moodboarding-and-parasitising-my-designs-while-i-struggle-to-make-a-living/

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The art director followed Antireal on Twitter.

    Stop the bullshit. They knew what they were doing

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  • rustyfish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Image

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    • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      if i had a nickel for every time bungie stole art i could afford to pay for that art

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      • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Which is not much but it’s weird it has happened 5 times this last 3 years

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  • domi@lemmy.secnd.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    TIL that Bungie is releasing a new game.

    Although judging by this news and the first sentence on their Steam page being “…Bungie’s team-based extraction shooter.”, maybe it’s a good thing I can’t play their games.

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    • Master167@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Bungie is making a new game based on Marathon”

      Great, I’m in.

      “It’s a multi-player extraction shooter”

      Nope, I’m out. This smells like a “Prey” situation.

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      • magikmw@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        But Prey was actually good.

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      • 13igTyme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I had the same reaction to Marathon as well as the new Black Hawk Down.

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    • carlossurf@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Im so tried of all these multiplayer games, make a goddamn single player campaign, fuck it add in splitscreen or the ability to play the campaign with friends if you have too

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The best thing about Marathon is the shortfilm. Watch that. Then ignore the game.

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      • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I watched people play the game and was wondering what the hype was all about. The game looked so dull and boring. The outside of the map looled like a game made by a single dev for his indie game. Only yesterday i watched the short film and was loke: oooooooh, i get it, because they lie.

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  • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They just keep doing it. I haven’t played any of their post-halo games and it seems like it’s going to stay that way. Feels like controversy after controversy. Removing content from Destiny 2. Stealing art. Stealing art. Stealing art. Stealing art…

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    • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I really wanted to like Destiny 2, but then they started releasing expansion packs faster than I could feasibly buy or play them. Then I learned that most of those expansions had no content anymore anyway because they think removing content is a good idea, so I just gave up.

      Sadly it seems like they really would have been better off as a Halo-Making Machine like Microsoft wanted them to be.

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  • fuzzywombat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is fourth time a confirmed plagiarism happened at Bungie in recent years. There is also an ongoing lawsuit over accusation of Red War story theft. This isn’t some lone rogue employee issue. It’s a company culture issue originating from the top. I think Sony needs to step in and clean house to address the systemic problem.

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sony exec: I have a fever and the only antidote is more micro transactions

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  • spizzat2@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I can’t see the company name without thinking about this scene from Red VS Blue

    Tucker: “Bungle…”

    Church: “That’s an i, you idiot!”

    Tucker: “Oh, right! Bingle…”

    Church: “BUNGIE!”

    It does often seem that Tucker had it right the first time.

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  • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They need to go bankrupt, honestly.

    Behaviour like this should end your company.

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    • HParker@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would be sad for the good artist and developers at bungie to loose their jobs. Hopefully they are more careful and the artist ends up happy with the result of their talks.

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      • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        First offense, sure.

        But they’ll just keep being scum so it needs to come back to them.

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  • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nobody has been able to explain to me how this new game has fucking anything to do with Marathon.

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    • FunkyElectro@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They’re just stripping copper from the walls.

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      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fucking spot on analogy

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Its attached to the name because:

      1. No creatives at Bungie can come up with an original idea apparently

      2. Bungie believes the name alone will carry it (it wont)

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    • blargle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Does it even have Pfhor in it…?

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is just parading a corpse around. Glad I never got into Destiny.

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      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I did. Luckily there were points where it was shit enough to be able to leave without looking back.

        I beat The Black Heart, Atheon, Crota, Oryx, Siva, Xol, Ghaul, Calus, Riven, Nezerac, Savathun, and The Witness, plus AlakHul, Atraks, Sepiks, Taniks, the Forsaken Baron, a bunch of Vex Gatelords and Overminds… I rediscovered Dark Subclasses, I became an Iron Lord, a Dregden and went to Osiris’ Lighthouse in D1 and D2, healed the Traveller (twice), I witnessed my own funeral in the Corridors of Time, bringing back Saint 14, I saved and killed Rasputin and Prince/Crow and I communed with The Long Boi In The Soup. I saw the whole story through. Anything that happens now is of lesser concern, so I can leave.

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  • pycorax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Like they did so the past few times which still led to this happening again?

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  • Notserious@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I remember when Bungie made cool stuff like Myth the fallen lords.

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    • FuckFascism@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Halo too, Bungie is honestly just a totally different studio than it used to be.

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And Oni!

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And then they made Myth II, which they had to recall (that almost bankrupted their company) because trying to uninstall it could delete your system folder and brick your PC.

      At least with Myth II, Bungie actually made the right call and did the right thing.

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    if i admit to doing crime, i still have to face the law about it. Does bungie?

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  • Eggyhead@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    NGL, it seems really practical that it was intended to be placeholder concept art that someone forgot to go in and replace.

    That said, this artists they took so much inspiration from definitely deserves a place in the game’s credits at this point. Whether they actually use his art in game or not.

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    • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Placeholder doesn’t need to be anything more than basic featureless textures on cubes, and you should own them completely. If you made your placeholder to look like it fits, you’re asking for it to be forgotten and left in place. Which might not be too bad if it’s finally not too out of place and it’s yours.

      Especially in a professional studio, they should know better than using stuff they just “found” as placeholder. To me it’s either terrible incompetence… or worse, they thought nobody would care anyway.

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      • Eggyhead@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Didn’t they get caught doing this with destiny as well? It makes me wonder if it’s a studio culture thing. You’re 200% right in what they should be doing, but I still am inclined to think this is more likely an incompetence thing than malice.

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      • odelik@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is incompetence.

        I’ve been in and out of games for my entire career. Every place I’ve been has had strict policies on outside art assets. I’ve even seen every new art asset to require a monthly license review to prevent any chance of outside art having slipped in somehow, including any usage of Blender’s example model Suzanne.

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      • BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I will say, placeholder SHOULD be more than basic featureless textures on cubes so it can’t make it to a playtest without knowing about it. You know, like this. Placeholder kittens are always distinct, in my book. Plus if something subtly gets through, players will think it’s a hilarious easter egg

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  • Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They’re doing it again! Bungie has fallen far, completely incompetent management.

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Is it only the management though? You mean to tell me absolutely none of the artists knew about this, or that literally ONLY ONE “ex-employee” artist knew this was going on among the art team? Do Bungie only have one artist making art assets for textures across various objects, as well as assets they use on their website and in their trailers?

      “Ex-employee” is a scapegoat, but I guarantee you there was more than one artist, entirely unrelated to management, that knew this was going on and will happily blame the scapegoat to absolve themselves of their involvement.

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      • XnxCuX@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Is it far fetched to say their art team could be large, but also underpaid and ignored it so the work was done? Not right but sums up my work experience in an entirely unrelated and uncreative field.

        Really just devil’s advocate, im curious for any corporate artist opinion

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    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s such a damn shame, too. Destiny 2 was some of the most fun I’ve had in gaming over the last decade. Absolutely jaw-dropping environments at times, clever encounter designs, the gunplay, so many things to love. And I have no doubt Marathon will be a hell of a thing from what I’ve seen. These people can design a game.

      But GODDAMN stop stealing art from people. Upper management has got to be atrocious with all the bullshit they’ve pulled over the years. And you know that bullshit starts at C-suite and rolls downhill.

      It’s a damn shame.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s surprising how few people at the top you need to change in order to change a company culture. One of the companies that I regularly work with has gone from being a nightmare because we could never get information out of them, to a nightmare because of how whiny and demanding they’ve become. That was the result of the CEO changing, that’s it one person and it results in a totally different corporate personality.

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  • MisterOwl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Senator, I know Marathon. I served with Marathon. You are no Marathon.

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    • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And I served a tour with Pathways Into Darkness.

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  • ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    When you have money and power then get caught doing something, ask for forgiveness and create a awful situation to pay the artist less and throw in that small tiny hint of “no more money later, no royalties, we own everything and you get small check….byeeeeeee” (aka the middle finger)

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  • Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    insane plagiarism in marathon

    Jake the Alright

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QdnV-chZk

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Don’t use AI it’s theft from the creators.

    The " creators "

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    • TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Congrats, your take is even dumber than bungie

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    • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “Plagiarism exists, so therefore a plagiarism machine can’t be wrong!”

      lol gtfoh

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    • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Decent bait. Three bites, not bad.

      The solution, for anyone else wondering, is derived by simplification. “If theft is bad, why is the alternative, theft again, also bad?” It’s a nonsense statement made by a moron.

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  • blinx615@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Imagine all the plagiarism that hasn’t been found.

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