Kalcifer
@Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works
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- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] I recommend recurring training.
For clarity, do you mean, for example, having to re-pass a drivers test to renew one’s license?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Instead of adding it to a mandatory school curriculum, would you be satisfied with a more strict licensing process?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
More what I’m getting at, regardless of language used in Shakespeare is whether you think Shakespeare, as a whole, is obsolete. So, iiuc, you aren’t saying that you think that Shakespeare, as a whole, is obsolete, but that that the language used within it is, which makes it difficult to read?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] I propose that teaching Shakespeare instead of more in depth driver’s ed isn’t entirely ethical. […]
I think you misunderstood me. To be completely fair, I was rather vague. I wasn’t arguing that one was more ethical than the other. My argument about ethics was from the perspective of further subsidizing something that already receives enormous subsidies — ie driving and cars (this is conjecture at the moment, but I can go into more detail if you’d like).
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] If they get something wrong behind the wheel of a car, what’s the worst that can happen? […]
Out of curiosity, do you live in an area that doesn’t require a driver’s license in order to be legally allowed to drive on a public road?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
How many hours of the average American’s life will be spent behind the wheel of a car? […]
Would it be a goal of yours to reduce the amount of time that one spends driving in their life? If so, do you think that teaching drivers ed in school will achieve that end?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
replace it with a semester of “living in the world” lessons that might just be a week of driver’s ed, that field trip to the fire department, some first aid, just cram a semester full of basic adulting skills.
We used to call this “Home Economics” but that got stigmatized as the cake baking class girls took while the boys were in shop class, and then women doing housework became a politically charged issue so we deprecated even that.
Okay, but that isn’t what you said prior — that’s shifting the goalpoasts. You specifically said
Replace them with a semester of […] fire safety […]
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] the reason we teach Shakespeare in high schools is because English teachers like it […]
Hm, this feels like conjecture. Do you have proof of that?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] reading a Shakespeare play is an exercise in translation as much as comprehension […]
I am a little confused now — is this you agreeing that reading Shakespeare improves reading comprehension?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Nope, that’s not how education works. Due to the Principle of Effect, lessons which are too confusing can do more harm than good. If, as some other commenters have suggested, students are arriving to 12th grade English class reading at an elementary school level, handing them a copy of Hamlet isn’t going to accomplish anything, it’ll just frustrate them, convince them that they really can’t do this and they’ll just give up. Even honors students who are reading at advanced levels might start second guessing themselves.
I wasn’t arguing that Shakespeare would make the students more interested in literature. I was only arguing that the act of reading, no matter what is being read (within reason), improves one’s reading comprehension.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
I think it’s important to define exactly how “this thead” is being used in this context. When I use “this thread”, it’s to refer to our exchange of comments; it doesn’t refer to all comments under OP’s post. I’m not sure if there’s an official definition for the term — perhaps I am not using the term in a commonly understood way.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
So, other than literature, are there some English-derived classes that you think would be good to teach?
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
[…] no definition on the context of economics.
Do you mean that, in your opinion, it has definitions in other contexts? If so, what would it be, and what would the contexts be?
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
It’s a nonsensical economical theory, with no definition on the context of economics.
Hrm, if it has no definition in the context of economics, how could you know argue that, by its definition, it is a nonsensical economic theory? That seems to fail modus ponens.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
[…] I don’t think that’s necessarily true, because 1. a lot of the vocabulary is just…not English anymore. […] Comprehending the play by reading the dialog alone is difficult because the context is missing. […]
I think you may be missing the point that I was trying to make. I agree with you that I think Shakespeare can be difficult to read, but, regardless of that, trying to comprehend it is still trying to comprehend it. If one is practicing their reading comprehension, no matter the difficulty of the material, imo it could still be said that they are improving their comprehension. Now, it could be that there is material that is more efficient at improving one’s reading comprehension ability than Shakespeare, but I think that’s a separate argument.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Make English 4 if not English 3 electives rather than required. Replace them with a semester of […] how to safely refrigerate chicken
Imo, this is something that can be taught in a basic foods/cooking class, or a home economics class (which has at least been taught in the past ^[1]^ — I haven’t found any current data).
References
1. “Why is home economics not taught in schools anymore?”. Author: Cortney Moore. FOX Business Network. Published: 2020-06-16T17:44Z16:44Z. Accessed: 2024-12-11T05:17Z. foxbusiness.com/…/home-economics-not-taught-schoo…. - ¶2. > […] in 2013, the number of students enrolled in a home economics class was a little over 3.4 million, which were taught by more than 27,800 teachers […]
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Make English 4 if not English 3 electives rather than required. Replace them with a semester of […] fire safety
I disagree that this should be in some form of course. I think that this can be taught in a short afternoon visit by a fire department — it may even be already.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Make English 4 if not English 3 electives rather than required. Replace them with a semester of driver’s ed […]
I disagree.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Make English 4 if not English 3 electives rather than required.
For clarity, are you saying that you don’t think that it should be mandatory that English, or any of its derivatives, be taught as a course to children?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
I think later high school English classes do more to beat any love of reading teenagers have out of them by force feeding them […] obsolete shit […]
How are you defining “obsolete”?
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Err, but each of my comments have been directly addressing things that you’ve stated in this thread, so wouldn’t that logically infer that my comments are related to this thread? Explicitly my logic would be: If comment A directly addresses the content in comment comment B, then A is related to B; each of my comments respectively address the content in each of your comments; therefore, my comments are related to your comments ^[1]^. Would you mind outlining exactly isn’t related to the thread? Perhaps I missed something.
References
1. “Modus Ponens”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-07-07T05:04Z. Accessed: 2024-12-11T02:36Z. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_ponens. - §“Explanation”. ¶1. > 1. If P, then Q. > 2. P. > 3. Therefore, Q.
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
Instead of broken windows needing replacement, we have broken CEOs needing protection.
Hm, but a possible effect, imo, is that this incentivizes those companies to start being more consumer-friendly — perhaps they make a connection that predatory policies are a risk to their safety so, to mitigate that risk, they take more consumer-friendly position. However, I think where that idea may break down and become more like the broken window fallacy is if people get the idea that policies will keep improving if CEO’s keep getting killed — I think that would just make it so that insurance companies are too scared to operate, which would shift the supply curve to the left ^[1]^.
References
1. “Change in Supply: What Causes a Shift in the Supply Curve?”. Author: “Akhilesh Ganti”. Investopedia. Published: 2023-08-31. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:12Z. www.investopedia.com/…/change_in_supply.asp.
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
Yes.
In that biology course, how would you want the biology knowledge to be taught to the students? Like what form would the knowledge take? For example, would it be that you want students to simply memorize a sort of currently understood concepts in biology? Would it be something else?
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
If it had a definition, it wouldn’t be nonsense, would it?
It would depend on the definition in question. The term in a vacuum is just a collection of words — what those words mean is rather important, imo.
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
[…] what do you think it is?
Note that your shifting of the burden of proof is not a sound argument for the veracity of your claims. At any rate, imo, exactly what it means depends on the context; it’s generally accepted as the theory that certain economic policies favoring those on the upper tier of the economic spectrum will trickle down to benefit the masses ^[1][2]^.
References
1. “Trickle-down economics”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-12-01T17:10. Accessed: 2024-12-10T03:39Z. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics. - ¶1 > Trickle-down economics is a pejorative term for government economic policies deemed to disproportionately favor the upper tier of the economic spectrum (wealthy individuals and large corporations) under the belief that this will eventually benefit the economy as a whole. […] 2. “Trickle-Down Economics: Theory, Policies, and Critique”. By: “Will Kenton”. Published: 2024-11-09. Accessed: 2024-12-10T03:42Z. www.investopedia.com/…/trickledowntheory.asp. - ¶1 > Trickle-down economics and its policies employ the theory that tax breaks and benefits for corporations and the wealthy will trickle down and eventually benefit everyone.
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
I’m not […]
What do you mean? Are you saying that you don’t have a definition for the term that you are using?
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
Instead of fishing for a debate […]
I will not engage in any debate without first knowing how the term is being defined.
- Comment on Anon meets a girl at a wedding 1 week ago:
All I could find on this is something called “genetic sexual attraction” ^[1]^, though Wikipedia contains arguments that it’s pseudoscience ^[1.1]^. Here is a Reddit post asking about this. ^[3]^.
Related to this, I also came across the “Westermarck effect” which appears to suggest that people who grow up together are less likely to be romantically attracted to each other ^[2]^.
References
1. “Genetic sexual attraction”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-10-14T18:46Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:29Z. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction. 1. §“Criticism” > Critics of the hypothesis have called it pseudoscience. In a Salon piece, Amanda Marcotte called the concept “half-baked pseudoscientific nonsense that people dreamed up to justify continuing unhealthy, abusive relationships”.[8] The use of “GSA” as an initialism has also been criticized, since it gives the notion that the phenomenon is an actual diagnosable “condition”. > > Many have noted the lack of research on the subject. While acknowledging the “phenomenon of genetic sexual attraction”, Eric Anderson, a sociologist and sexologist, noted in a 2012 book that “[t]here is only one academic research article” on the subject, and he critiqued the paper for using “Freudian psycho-babble”. 2. “Westermarck effect”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-09-26T14:09Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:33Z. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect. 3. "How does nature prevent us from feeling sexually attracted to relatives who are objectively sexually attractive? ". Author: “Morgentau7” (u/Morgentau7). “r/TooAfraidToAsk”. Reddit. Published: 2024-09-25T17:50:08.227Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:34Z. reddit.com/…/how_does_nature_prevent_us_from_feel….
- Comment on Mitochondria 1 week ago:
But that doesn’t really explain why it would make sense to teach things that wouldn’t be useful.
- Comment on If billionaires and CEOs feel like they need to start paying for large security details, would that be an example of trickle down economics? 1 week ago:
[…] trickle-down economics is an absurd nonsense theory […]
Would you mind defining exactly what you mean by “trickle down economics”?