Just the cost of pissing off all the highly technical users who helped build the place.
Every support thread on Reddit is literally this now
Submitted 1 day ago by popcar2@programming.dev to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Cypher@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 day ago
Exactly. Just used Redact myself a few weeks ago.
Albbi@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I wish I’d done that. I deleted my 12 year old account right before learning about these tools.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Awesome!!! Post your questions here instead
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
What kind of a boy is spez?
RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The fascist kind. A lot of high karma accounts got banned for no reason this last year. Destroying their own creation. Sad.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 hour ago
A reliable source tells me Spez likes to diddle kids and has a micropenis.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
I get that it’s annoying, but reddit deserves to burn.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Reddit as a company is 100% unaffected by this
JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 hours ago
To an extent they are. Part of the appeal of Reddit was that you could find good answers there. But yeah, the idea that “long term their reputation may suffer” is hardly affecting them in any demonstrable way now.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
100% unaffected? It makes their data worth a lot less for AI training. Even if they keep comment history, these are edits - how do you determine which edit to use? Using all of them poisons the data, and picking one risks doing the same.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Sure, but the users are.
muhyb@programming.dev 1 day ago
Well, this happens if you don’t respect your users.
ccunning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
…or your moderators
…or your third party developersriquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
…or MY AXE!!
purplerabbit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
When Reddit’s API debacle happened lots of people moved away. Some deleted their comments, some edited them with a message in protest. But sadly the consequences is that a lot of history and useful information got lost in the process.
I don’t know how I feel about this. I understand why it’s done and even why it needs to be done, but it still makes me sad considering the amount of times where Reddit saved me from massive headaches with IT stuff and so on…
wols@lemmy.zip 52 minutes ago
Yup, Reddit fucked us all after we gave them our knowledge for free.
Trick people into thinking they’re contributing to a commons, steal the contributions and run. Very understandable that many people decided to retaliate after the betrayal.
I really hope decentralized knowledge bases take off. Aggregating niche knowledge from experts and non-experts everywhere the internet touches is such a valuable proposition!I had like one useful comment posted to Reddit. I’ve left it up, and once every few months I get a comment being appreciative for the info.
Reddit gets the traffic because of Google indexing the original post of a user with the problem. People are going to visit it regardless of whether they’ll find the answer or not. In fact, if they don’t find it, they’re more likely to keep browsing posts in the hope of finding something.Roopappy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As someone who deleted their posts… yes. The goal was to make Reddit worse, by removing my contributions to it because they forgot where their value came from.
My content had some small value to them. They didn’t deserve it.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises.
The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn’t harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.
Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.
Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But it’s about as effective as punching desperate Internet users in the face to try to make Reddit feel pain.
dickalan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I hope they delete all your stuff when your account gets banned because I’ve left at least three of those in my wake
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Reddit undeleted a lot of the content removed during the API debacle. This comment must have been after that because you can see the latest comment is post API changes.
elvith@feddit.org 1 day ago
That’s why I didn’t close my account and still do a new turn of mass edits every 2-3 months. I have nothing deleted, just constantly overwritten. I get regularly banned from some subreddits after each wave, probably because some comments may trigger some sort of spam detection and edits alert the mods then.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 day ago
The sad part of it is that they (reddit) can still access that deleleted information and sell it for AI training. Even as a “power” user you can use websites that “undelete” that content. The only ones truly affected by this are people randomly browsing reddit.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I mean it does reduce the value of the content that users created on reddit if a ton of random comments were deleted in protest. Every time you hit a thread like the OOP it reduces reddit 's value to the individual, and in aggregate it reduces reddits value
fading_person@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
This is the thing with proprietary platforms. They can do anything with our data and no one can do a thing about it. It’s just a matter of time and all content in the big tech social networks will become just memories from past users. At least with the fediverse, independent parts can freely archive the content (sometimes it can be a bad thing, but well, nothing is perfect)
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
Good! The users add all the value to that site, moderate if for free and they couldn’t even not be cunts about it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
they want propaganda bots mostly now on reddit.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Good for whom?
There’s been loads of times where I’ve looked everywhere for a solution, finally finding it on google page 10+ in an obscure reddit thread with like 10 votes and 4 comments where someone had found a weird, illogical solution to your exact problem that actually worked.
It’s a shame it went to shit. The real losers are us, we lost a lot of knowledge.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
That doesn’t mean I think they should get to keep that stuff. Sure, we lost a lot of knowledge there, and that sucks. But the company lost out and pushed their IPO way back for it and I enjoy seeing Spez suffer after what he did to Aaron’s legacy.
nightlily@leminal.space 12 hours ago
They just added comment history hiding as well, so now you can’t even tell if some people are engaging in good faith anymore.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
So I get banned for reporting trolls because it’s an “Abuse of the Report Button” AND they make it easier to Troll? Do they just want people not using the site?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
you cant tell if people are botting/spamming
kaotic@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I really need to go back and delete all my posts, I just dropped it and never went back.
tama@discuss.tchncs.de 18 hours ago
…medium.com/how-do-delete-all-your-reddit-comment…
It’s a pain in the ass to do it manually. I used this script and it helped a lot.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 17 hours ago
just say something that will you get you banned and they will delete all your comments and posts and your profile. they will appear as
[deleted]. much easier tbh
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Does that help the fight? I was under the impression that they got to keep all the old info
kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
They do, but it makes the site less useable for people, which is a win
Iceblade02@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
What I did was mass edit all my comments. According to reddit customer support (about a year ago at the time), they do not retain old versions of edited comments.
astutemural@midwest.social 18 hours ago
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
You‘re harming people looking for help and support more than you harm Reddit.
Shayeta@feddit.org 13 hours ago
Which harms Reddit more than anything, as people will look elsewhere.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 hours ago
And Reddit took people’s goodwill to give free advice their and generate revenue from it for granted.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Reddit already only allows Google to scrape them now, so as far as I am concerned it is a dead site. Removing my comments is worth it to not feed the monopoly that is Google.
knobpolisher@feddit.nl 13 hours ago
Are there any tools that can edit your comments to make the ingestion of your data into ai models less worthwhile? Eg. The comments are edited to not be random, superficially look like a human made them, but have very little value when sold by reddit
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
I forget the tool but every once in a while you’ll see a comment of gibberish words and it says “comment removed thanks to X”.
The service edits the comments instead of erasing them.
trk@aussie.zone 1 day ago
I did the same.
Reddit showed it didn’t give a fsck about my user experience with their banning of third party apps, but they still wanted to sell the content I put the effort in to providing.
Screw you guys. You want to make money off hosting my words, whatever. But don’t stick a pineapple up my arse at the same time and expect me not to feel it.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I still use old reddit and I have an extension on iOS that modifies it to be usable on a phone.
PlantPowerPhysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Thanks for getting me to finally run one of these scripts to scramble and delete everything in my old account. Fuck every American corporation and their user experience.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They restored all my comments a few months later, so I’ve tried it again by editing all my comments to gibberish.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I keep checking mine, no reverse yet. Been a few months, 2 since my last purge
jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
How is it possible to view deleted comments?
QuestionMark@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
It uses this: undelete.pullpush.io
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Good, fuck reddit, anybody with an account should delete all comment history.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I provided quite a few answers in Linux, UNIX, and programming forums. I had to delete my comments multiple times as they kept getting restored. I even had a script that I’d run in my browser that would go through and delete all my posts until a month passed with no restorations, then deleted my account. Reddit should never be a Google result for tech help to begin with. It should take you to documentation.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 26 minutes ago
yeah when I left I deleted everything. When I was talking about it to a friend who uses it, and knows my account, informed me that all my interactions with them are still there. Took a look, and yeah, everything restored.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well said, I fully support it. Let’s hope at least this place doesn’t turn into 1984 too.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
What a spezhole
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I love that people are removing the solutions, but keeping the “holy shit you just saved me 2-3 full quarters of work”
dion_starfire@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
That’s because the person who had the solution removed their comment history, but the person who said thank you didn’t.
UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 5 hours ago
is this alt text
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Whoa since when can you view removed comments?
rozodru@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
libreddit instance allows you to do that. one I’m using right now: discuss.whatever.social
note that you have to kinda bounce around from instance to instance as some will be great for a couple weeks then go away or crash and then you have to find another one.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
good, but it’s not enough
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
The comment says removed, but the user says deleted.
And because of the large number of people who not only left Reddit, but burnt bridges in doing so by using tools to delete or garble their entite post history, it’s hard to tell if this was Reddit’s doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving the site.
popcar2@programming.dev 1 day ago
it’s hard to tell if this was Reddit’s doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving
The latter, Reddit doesn’t remove your comments and posts when your account gets deleted.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I used a tool to overwrite mine right before the API bullshit went into effect, but searching for my account, it appears they were all restored.
Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The former is data they can index for Google searches to make Reddit more valuable as a resource. Reddit will never remove your data.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
yea it doesnt, unless you were shadowbanned. if you got permabanned or delted your account your history isnt gone. shadowban however gets all posts hidden by other users, except yourself.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
tools to delete or garble their entite post history
I had a 6 year account when the API scandal hit. Paid a small fee to deny reddit whatever 2 cents my comments are worth.
VeryVito@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
13 years for me. I killed so much content.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 day ago
reddit comments only say removed when the mods or admins remove it. maybe the dude used a script to make all his comments say “I hate Reddit I am going to mail a pipebomb to carlos mencia in retaliation” and reddit nuked them.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s wrong with doing that?
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah… I did this too when leaving. Made a small app to edit and delete every comment I made. I actually had a useful IT related self hosting post which was also nuked. I guess that’s the price the whole community had to pay for reddits thirst for profit.
PMmeTrebuchets@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
How would I go about doing this? I want to nuke all my comments since I know deleting my account won’t
degen@midwest.social 18 hours ago
'23 is late enough, but it should be peppered with comments overwritten by 60 random words, just to make it worse
eezeebee@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Thanks, SPEZ!
Almacca@aussie.zone 1 day ago
I wished I’d deleted all my comments and posts before deleting my account.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
WTF? View removed comment?
foggy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Good.
They went public and made bank on free user input. Those users rebelled so the platform would suck.
It may still be standing but I feel we won over a year ago.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 day ago
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I made sure to remove all my posts before i left when they started blocking anonymous vpn users. 3 accounts across 15+ years all gone because of their stupid policies.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
stackoverflow be like
"hey i have this problem and i can't figure it out"
posted 10 years ago
"nevermind i figured out it so all is good"
posted 10 years ago
GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I have to say I was having issues using reddit on my browser, it was a simple html issue where I couldn’t break paragraphs, and I went to the support sub and they fixed it within 2 days.
I’ve had mods ban me for visiting, not commenting or posting, just viewing a post from another sub. I’m sure I got shadow banned plenty of times. I left because of the users. I disagreed that someone should Go No Contact with their dementia suffering grandpa for being racist and I felt like I was going crazy with the commenters who tore me a new one.
I stayed for while after because fuck, I’d been on reddit since it had r/all and not much else. I blocked out the one that got me to quit for good. I don’t even want to check back in for curiosities sake because fuck them. I wasn’t wrong in the slightest.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
Fuck Spez!