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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.eurogamer.net/80-for-borderlands-4-too-costly-randy-pitchford-says-if-youre-a-real-fan-youll-find-a-way-to-make-it-happen

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like waiting 6 months for them to panic over low sales and put on 50% sale?

    Maybe, or maybe I’ll wait for the ultimate edition with all dlc to hit $40

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When $40 is half price, I will generally pass as if it were $80. There is a glut of amazing content out there for $40 or less, and much of it is truly inspired indie work. When your half-price game is competing with great full-price indie titles, I will continue to ignore your overpriced corporate muck.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or get it second-hand off G2A or CDKeys.

      I’m never paying $80 for a video game.

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      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wouldn’t advise using those services, myself. Lots of sketchy stuff. Legit copies of digital games go on sale often enough.

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      • yamper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        piracy is preferable over buying a key off of greymarket sites like this tbh

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Borderlands 3 is in a free giveaway after a year or so on Epic Games. The sales must be abysmal to give a flagship franchise away for free, because of Randy being a bitch and insist exclusive is good. This will hopefully bite them back like last time.

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    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I honestly think it will sell a lot because most gamers won’t be able to control themselves.

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      • PillowTalk420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What does a 12 year old care about $80? They ain’t spending that. Their parents are.

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Or perhaps even find it to be worth the price.

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I got Borderlands 3 about a year after release for less than 5€, I can wait.

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  • obelix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.

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    • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You wouldn’t download a shit to give.

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    • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s legitimately how I read what he was saying at first.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If Randy Pitchford was a real CEO he would find a way to make $60 games

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    • newthrowaway20@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.

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      • Kbobabob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he’d be in cuffs.

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      • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What?

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  • Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Randy pitchford?

    THAT Randy Pitchford? The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) and then left it at a Midieval Times? The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow “lost” “lost” 10 million dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb.

    Fuck that guy.

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    • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, no, you don’t understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.

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      • Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m not gonna sit and tell a man he can’t have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.

        But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Theyre $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon. And then to be so distracted he forgot it.

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    • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Holy shit, I knew about the “magic trick” girl and thought he was a quirky funny man, but assaulting an artist to force them to work for free? What a fucking asshole

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      • Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If I recall the feud correctly, Eddings previously worked on Claptrap as a favor for free (or next to it). As far as the back and forth on Twitter indicates, when he said he wanted “Id like to be paid this time”, Pitchford initially pushed back, and then offered “2x union rates” (whether Pitchford actually offered that or said it on twitter afterward to garner sympathy we may never know), but Eddings refused the offer since gearbox was (at the time) about to make its 3rd lootershooter in a monsterously successful chain and he was pne of the most prominent side characters.

        Jim sterling has almost an hour or more worth of videos (a 30m and a few 5-7m) I can link specifically about Pitchford. Working for Destructoid at the time of Colonial Marines, they held an interview with Pitchford who lied to their face about features of the game, and so made it a personal mission to keep Randy accountable.

        Pitchford must have had an issue with Destructoid running him through the gutter for Colonial Marines, and the Borderlands 2 mission BFFs features 4 characters in a Mexican standoff for stealing money. (What an oddly on the nose mission eh?) All 4 have names of Destructoid staff, with the thief being named “Jim” - but I’m sure that’s just a coincidence and not a ceo being petty right.

        Bro is a blight on Gearbox. And Noone is sure how or why the board hasn’t gotten rid of him.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hear he also collected child porn, citation needed.

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  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hi Randy, fuck off lol

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  • leavemealone@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.

    The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that’s not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.

    The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games…

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    • WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah I’m really starting to feel like we’re gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn’t be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

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      • leavemealone@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can’t get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly, in my opinion, there’s too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn’t competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don’t expect much from four, and there’s companies I’d actually like to support instead.

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      • leavemealone@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can’t tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn’t interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn’t taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn’t have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don’t trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

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  • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I found a way already, it’s called patience. Works well for basically any non nintendo game.

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can still (for the moment) be patient with Nintendo games if you’re OK buying second hand

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      • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I solved that by moving to pc and forgetting about Nintendo’s existence.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Or just pirate and emulate Nintendo games. They’re such scumbags that they make piracy morally correct

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    ﹏𓊝

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, the real appeal of the Borderlands series is multiplayer. The games are alright in single player mode, but multiplayer is where it really shines.

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        IIRC all of the past ones have worked over LAN, including over a private VPN if you so desire. I definitely played pirated copies of 1 and 2 with my mates. I had no real desire to get very deep into 3 because the campaign storyline was so stupid, but I don’t doubt you could.

        It’s only online matchmaking with randos that you’ll be blocked from, which if you ask me is not really that much of a detriment.

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    • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Theseus’ ship? 😱

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      • Mustakrakish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Would be better than 3

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  • Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can make it happen? Okeydokey! 🏴‍☠️

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  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Guess I’m not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He’s such a cunt.

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    • xiii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.” Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself. When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

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      • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve not heard a single good thing about him. He’s just a toolbag through and through.

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      • conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it’s this asshole

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  • Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh I’ll find a way alright.

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  • damdy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can’t wait to play it…in 2035 summer sale. Maybe I’ll even get bored in under 2 hours and get the instant refund.

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    • ne0n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Randy actually needs to see this. It’s reality.

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  • NeryK@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’d think he’d be better media trained by now. But no, here goes the foot in the mouth.

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He got the horrible Hand, Foot in Mouth Disease.

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    • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nothing has stopped him so far, including assaulting the VA of their most well known character

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  • LuckyPierre@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Find a way?

    Piracy is a way. Thanks for the tip.

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  • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    put it on my wish list

    buy it for $15 in a year

    yawn

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    • technomad@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it’s probably a pretty shit game anyway right?

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      • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If it being Borderlands 4 wasn’t enough of a tip considering the stellar writing we had on pre-sequel and 3.

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  • EarWorm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.

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    • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They become pirates if necessary.

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  • RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not a huge fan of Borderlands. I like the stories. But I don’t like the loot goblining. Constant hunt for ever higher damage numbers.

    There’s only 1 company I’ll pay $80 for a new game. And that is Ryu Ga Gotoku. Cuz they don’t miss. No bad half finished launches. No bad games. Every game is a masterclass in Peak. Image

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    • Yermaw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m the opposite, I don’t give a monkeys about the story but I like the loot goblining.

      That said a borderlands came on the gamepass the other week and I was so excited to lure my boy into co-op with me for the first time in ages. It wouldn’t stop crashing. I googled it to see if they were aware and all I could find was the company sucking it’s own dick about having already released the final patch to stop it crashing so many times. I wouldn’t say I’m thrilled about the idea of dropping $80 on a day one release.

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      • Graphy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m a Loot Goblin that spacebars through the story too, but Borderlands hasn’t been able to scratch that itch in a long time.

        The last one I played was Tina’s Wonderland and everything about it was a slog. I didn’t care about any of the loot or any of the fights and I definitely didn’t care about the story.

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    • madame_gaymes@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll add Factorio to the list of games that deserve the $80 tag. $40 for base, $40 for Space Age expansion. Or don’t get Space Age and go with the mod that spawned Space Age (although not exactly the same).

      I get it’s a bit of a niche genre, though. The factory thing the way Factorio does it isn’t for everybody.

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      • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I personally prefer mindustry

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    • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can you recommend me a starting point? For someone who has no experience with these games, or any Japanese games besides Soulsgames and RE4 remake.

      Feel free to roast me in the process.

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      • RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yakuza 0, kiwami, kiwami 2, Yakuza 3, 4, 5, 6, then 7, then Gaiden, then 8.

        Then play Jusgement and Lost Judgement. Not part of Yakuza’s core canon. But adjacent.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I honestly don’t know how people play this game. Every 12 seconds coming across new gear. Can’t do it.

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      • SolOrion@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not like I need to do the math to figure out which gun is better and why. Find something with green arrows? Hold E to equip it immediately. If I use it for a bit and aren’t a fan I’ll just swap back to what I was using before and mark it as junk so I sell it next time I buy ammo or fill my inventory.

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It didn’t used to be like that and they actually mentioned in the deep dive that they’re getting back to the way it was before. Like the point of the game is loot goblining, but they’ve promised not to inundate the player with legendary weapons every twelve seconds so that you actually have time to savor the weapons you get between good drops.

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  • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Real fans “Find a Way” Yarr.

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  • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.

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  • Almacca@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Borderlands isn’t that good, Randy.

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  • CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL a lot of people aren’t true fans.

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  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, the way to make it happen is adding it to my wishlist and waiting for the price to drop to at least $40.

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  • 3migo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.

    Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.

    But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.

    Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.

    All that to say, I don’t have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they’re coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.

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    • Spaniard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s your take on the telltale game?

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      • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not OP but Tales from the Borderlands 1 us my favorite of the telltale game collection and has some of my favorite music videos ever and wears its emotions on its sleeve for you to empathize with its characters in clever real ways.

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      • 3migo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I never played the Tales from Borderlands myself, but my wife did and she really enjoyed it. She said it added a lot to the story lore presented in BL2.

        I did enjoy the Walking Dead telltale game along with the Wolf Among Us, though.

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  • Gerudo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Looks like fitgirl will be getting my business instead

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    • modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Found a way!

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)

    Did Randy also get caught with some questionable porn?

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Laws only apply to us poors.

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      • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Weinstein? Diddy? Epstein?

        I think the more apt description would be that when you’re got something that makes other people money, then you will be protected. When that ends you’re fair game.

        I also agree that the more money you have the better defence you can get, but I don’t believe laws only apply to the poor. That’s hyperbole.

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  • scbasteve7@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, I’ll fucking pirate it LMAO

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  • Jaeger86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Randy’s a twat. I’ll pick that shit up for $20 next Christmas

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    • madame_gaymes@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      🏴

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Real fan?

    Bitch please. We’ve put up with your crap for so long and we still play it…

    Get out of here with that house shit. Get fucked. Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on. At best, I’ll wait for a sale, at worst, I’m never playing your goddamned franchise again because you’ve run it into the ground with enshittification.

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  • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don’t want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn’t half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn’t try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they’ve already produced being held back for DLCs.

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