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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There are fossilized humans. Fossilization really doesn’t take that much time, geologically speaking; it just requires very specific conditions.

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    • Copythis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      About how much time are we talkin here?

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      • Geobloke@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Where are the bodies?

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Human species before H. Sapiens

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I know there’s some animal fossils in New Zealand that date back to its colonization by the ancestors of the Maori, so about the 1400s. Though I don’t know if they are partially or fully fossilized.

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      • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Your teeth can fossilise while they’re still in your mouth. We call it tartar.

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    • obstbert@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also makes you wonder what fossils they mean, of the same species or then already extinct ones.

      Because according to a quick Wikipedia search the oldest hominid fossils (?) are something like 7 millions years old

      That’s much much shorter than dinosaurs where around but hey " hominins are around long enough to unearth hominin fossils"!

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  • Mr_Fish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It is more chronologically accurate to show a t-rex being hit by a car than it is to show a t-rex eating a stegosaurus

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    • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I said I’m sorry. But if you’re going to let your T-Rex out at night you should at least but a reflective collar on it.

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      • Frozengyro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Hi, I was just calling because I live down the street from you, and your daughter come to my house today and she kick my t-rex.

        Your daughter come to my house today, And she come on my property and then she kick my t-rex. And now my t-rex needs operation.

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      • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The only interaction I’ve seen between a T-Rex and a collar is that one scene from The Lost World. Based on what I saw there, I have to assume that collars wouldn’t really work for them.

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    • irish_link@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is the comparison I was looking for. It’s great to explain that media shows them together but untrue, it is a totally different idea to explain the staggering time difference between the two.

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    • ziggurat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You made me scroll up to the picture again, looking for a T-Rex or a car

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    • Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And people mocked me for my human-tyrannosaur slashfic on ao3. Well, who’s laughing now?

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    • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t remember that episode of the Flintstones

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    • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is it a self-driving car?

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is only mind blowing because popular media likes to show every dinosaur at once. Like there’s a lot of things depicting stegosaurus fighting T-Rex; but these animals never would have met. They’re from entirely different eras.

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    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Image

      How dare you suggest DinoTrux lied to us!!!

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      • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If gasoline is made from dinosaurs, what did the Dinotrux run in?

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      • Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You can tell because non of them has feathers.

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    • negativenull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We live closer to the time of T-Rex than T-Rex lived to the time of stegosaurus.

      67 million years separate us from T-Rex.
      83 million years separate T-Rex from Stegosaurus. (150 million years between us and stegosaurus)

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      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        on a similar note: When cleopatra lived, the pyramids were already ancient

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      • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Wtf 🤯

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  • FoD@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This meme made me gasp loud enough that my girlfriend was worried something was wrong.

    Then I had to explain that I’m 41 years old and was just shocked by a dinosaur fact.

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      To be fair, things can fossilise very quickly given ideal conditions.

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      • negativenull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Another fun fact (dino facts are the best facts): There are more “dinosaur” species alive today than there are mammal species.
        11,000 bird species alive today (approx)
        6,000 mammal species alive today (approx)

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also, my favourite fact is we know almost nothing about dinosaurs from jungles and mountains. Most of our knowledge comes from wetland and oceanic creatures because of the way fossils are formed.

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    • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Forty-one?! You’re practically a fossil!

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  • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    xkcd.com/1211/

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    • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s always a relevant xkcd

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The popup text on that one is quite funny.

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      • ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Any idea how to access the pop-up text on a phone?

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  • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Birds are considered to be dinosaurs. Birds exist now. We are finding dinosaur fossils now.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s what the XKCD that was posted says. Mostly.

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  • borokov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Also, water you are drinking has probably been peed by dinosaure. Several time. But probably not peed by a human.

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    • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      guzzles water

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      • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Image

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    • greenhorn@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Second relevant xkcd of the comments what-if.xkcd.com/74/

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well, there are human fossiles aswell and we have been here for a pretty short time.

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    • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Speed running fucking it up too

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Which makes me ask, why were mammals able to evolve to produce an apex predator that relies on it’s inventiveness (Humans) in quite a short time, but no similar “dinosaur” got to that point in a much longer period?

    We’re searching planets for signs of life as a pre-cursor to intelligent life, but there’s no guarantee that life will evolve in the same direction as ours.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Corvids and psittacines display human child level intelligence. They use tools. They recognize other people. Hell the psittacines can mimic speech.

      I personally suspect it’s a matter of energy density. Birds have to use almost all of their available calories on flying. Doesn’t leave a lot of energy left over for a massively hungry brain. No clue what’s holding back penguins, emus, and cassowaries.

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      • Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Most birds are extremely light and efficient. Their bones have evolved to be light weight to help with this. Some species even fly in a V formation to conserve energy.

        Evolution doesn’t mean get better or smarter. It just means the species can survive and keep reproducing. Emperor Penguins in Antarctica for example, where they nest in a place where there are no predators. It seems insane the hardship and their silly walk which takes forever. But it works.

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      • exasperation@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Birds have to use almost all of their available calories on flying.

        But flying is quite energy efficient as a method of getting from point A to point B. That’s why flying insects and birds have had such evolutionary success with that strategy.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Evolution isn’t aimed. A T-Rex needs to be good enough to hunt enough food.

      Our ancient ancestors smashed the skulls of animals killed by African predators to eat the brains, smashed bones to eat the marrow.

      Later as our ancestors became bigger and stronger they hunted and needed to communicate with each other to effectively track and take down an animal. Maybe they needed twenty words. Chickens have three words (or cluck patterns)

      At the same time women collected stuff and needed to share how to identify this from that with younger women. They might have needed a hundred words.

      Then those who could talk better were more attractive to the other sex than those who couldn’t (even now being well spoken is attractive) then a few millions of years later we’re making stone knives, hammers, axes; then ten minutes later aeroplanes and machine guns

      In short: we had it hard enough we needed to share information. We later found communication sexy. T-Rex had no such trouble. We seem to be the only animal that solved “scavenging is dangerous” and “hunting is hard” with talking to each other rather than by getting bigger and getting claws or vicious teeth

      I understand we selected for tall by fighting humans

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      • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Evolution isn’t aimed.

        I realise that, but the use of tools and sharing of ideas may well have been advantages against the T-Rex. Just as I’m sure they’ve helped us against things that would eat or kill us.

        An advantage is an advantage, so I think it’s reasonable to ask why mammals and not murder chickens came up with stone tools and cooking meat.

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      • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Weird to leave at animals like crows with that last one.

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The difference is that they decided not to be parasitic narcissistic global suicide “apex” who gave no fucks, literally, about our will-no-longer-exist “children.”

      You’re so narcissistic you will refuse to admit that they weren’t stupid. The very way you will chose to be exactly that by denying the obvious as I lay it out so blatantly that your ego cries and denies ad infinitum.

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Now you get it. :)

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  • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well, there are plenty of hominid fossils and we humans are plentiful.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “Hey, isn’t that Dave’s skull?”

    “Can’t be, I just saw him this morning. Sure looks like him though. Weird.”

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  • Baggie@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I suddenly feel very small, but also the load off my shoulders lifted.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    OK, now I’m imagining dinosaur archaeologists (monocles and bushes, not bullwhips and quips).

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There are still a few of them in government.

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  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    [off topic]

    The Gryphon’s Skull is a fun read. Two Greek traders, circa 300 BC, discover a dinosaur fossil…

    bookshop.org/p/books/…/8156325?ean=9781612421421&…

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you like fun but also well-researched stories about people living in pre-modern times, you might also enjoy the weird medieval guys podcast :) They actually did an episode on fossils recently. Another funny story they mention is the one of Johann Beringer’s “Lying Stones”.

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  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So, technically there could be a paleantology dinosaur?

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    • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Paleosaurus

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    • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, just like there are archeologists digging human fossilized bones now.

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