Bikes were and still are a revolutionary technology. There’s a reason suffragettes were often associated with bicycles.
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A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I’m gonna go with a car.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
are a removed.
Bro, it might be time to leave .ml lol
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
We are all a removed on this blessed day
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
I disagree cycling in winter is nice. Just get some warm clothes and good tyres. A car is also really expensive to own in the city. Why pay for a car and parking when the alternative is almost free and arguably more fun.
deltapi@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It was minus seventeen degrees celsius when I got up yesterday. In the time it would take me to bicycle to work on clear paths/roads - assuming no accidents - I would have frostbite on all of my face unless I was also wearing a full-face helmet.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’m less likely to sweat profusely in winter
Lightor@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Bike in sub zero weather with snow and ice everywhere, that’s far from nice for me.
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
If the weather is bad enough, I will take transit instead, but cycling down to -10 C is doable without any problems.
I will be far less inclined to bike if it’s raining, that I do hate with a passion. Of course, I could just work from home in that scenario as well, if I don’t feel like taking transit
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Was the removed word bitch (female dog) by any chance I wonder?
ikidd@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because lemmy.ml is run by a bunch of pearl-clutchers that think profanity is a tool of the capitalist oppressors.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why did you ask if the removed word is removed?
BorgDrone@lemmy.one 4 weeks ago
Like my mom used to say: are you made of sugar?
SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
If it’s me on the bike, know that I’m pitying you. -6°C is nothing. I drove a lot of miles as a delivery driver, and saw a lot of faces behind windshields in that time. Very few happy faces. Driving makes people miserable.
Bosht@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If the cities are built for it, cycling doesn’t become something where you’re doing it for extended periods or distances. Neighborhoods that are setup for bikes means everything is local area, or mostly.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 4 weeks ago
Ice and snow are difficult. But I don’t give a shit about the rest. It’s still way more fun than sitting in traffic.
merc@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Rain is no problem, just get a proper jacket and rain pants. They’ll last you years.
Ice can be a problem, but you can get studded tires if you’re really regularly riding on ice.
Severe cold? I’ve biked in -20 weather, and with proper gear it’s not bad. You’re working hard and you heat up pretty quickly. The tricky things are your fingers and toes. Your fingers need enough freedom to operate the brakes and so on, so you can’t just use huge and bulky gloves. If you’re using clip-in pedals, your choice of footwear is a bit limited.
The real issue with winter biking isn’t the cold or the ice, it’s the lack of proper cycling infrastructure. Biking on a road next to a bus is hard enough in summer. In winter where there’s uncleared snow, slush and ice, it sucks. In places with proper winter cycling infrastructure it’s no problem.
Imagine how hard it would be to drive a car in winter if cities didn’t send out snowplows to clear the roads. That’s what it’s like for cyclists now in most (but not all) places.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Cuz putting on a raincoat or some warm clothes is too much for these weak ass people.
Nfamwap@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I get the sentiment, but a raincoat isn’t enough on its own. Sure, if you’ve got a 5 minute commute, you can get there quickly and spend minimal time in the rain.
A 20 minute commute in the pissing rain and you will be arriving soaked from head to toe. Not ideal for most. Yeh if you can shower at work then great, but then you’ve still got wet clothes you need to dry.
I’m very lucky that I have a 5 minute ride to work, all downhill, so unless the weather is biblical, I don’t really have an excuse for taking the car.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m very lucky that I have a 5 minute ride to work, all downhill
That ride home though.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
As someone who lives in Belgium where it is more rainy than the UK apparently, you just need 120€ of good biking gear (maybe 150 now with inflation)
I have some cheap Columbia rain pants, some cheap rain covers for shoes, a decent marmot raincoat, and a very cheap cover for my helmet. I bike 40-45 minutes each way to work.
I arrive to work dryer like that when it is very rainy, especially my feet, than when I have to park in a parking garage and walk 10-15 minutes. With an umbrella and raincoat.
I mean, it definitely isn’t fun at all biking in that, but unless it is really a downpour, it is not crazy.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
In The Nederlands people bike to school, which can be a bike ride of more than an hour away.
A raincote is not enough, but a rainsuit will do the job.
My issue with biking to work is the sweat …
merc@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Just wear a proper bike jacket and rain pants. I’ve biked 30 minute commutes in pouring rain, and all I had to do when arriving at work was take off that outer layer.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Yeah. It’s impracticable for many jobs but it would be a shame to reject cycling out of hand because of potential weather issues.
I just wear bike shorts and jersey whatever the weather. I have work pants and shirt that I change into in the restrooms at work. There’s no shower. I have wet wipes and a little hand towel.
It’s pretty rare that it’s raining heavily enough for long enough that I can’t get to work between downpours.
By far the most important thing is mud gards on your wheels.
As I said, it’s not for everyone but I suspect that it’s not actually prohibitive for most people.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well… that said, I’ve recently ridden by bike, and during the last few kilometers I barely could move one of my fingers, because I didn’t wear any kind of gloves or coat. It was cold as shit, but I still enjoyed the ride in the end, lol.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Yeah good gloves are for sure a must in the winter. The upside is that you have less bugs around when its cold :)
Agent641@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Cop pulls you over on a bicycle:
“Drivers License and registration please”
“I don’t need those, I’m not driving this bicycle, I’m travelling on it officer. Private conveyance. I don’t contract with DMV.”
“Right you are sir, have a nice day!”
Why haven’t the sovcits cottoned on to this loophole?!
underwire212@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Have you physically seen the average sovcit?? No way their traveling on bicycles anytime soon haha
darcranium123@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Bc they are fat asses
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
You can also run a speed camera on one and they can’t touch you. Sovcits hate this one weird trick.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
They can pull you over for speeding (if you actually manage too). Or at least where I live they can.
Yash2120@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m still confused how they didn’t argue
shasta@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Why didn’t the cop shoot them? Did this conversation happen in Europe?
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I’m disabled in a way that means I can’t use one, but can use a car, which kinda sucks.
Fortunately bike infrastructure usually helps me in my chair, so I’m all in favor of wider bike adoption.
BorgDrone@lemmy.one 4 weeks ago
I don’t know your limitations, but you’d be surprised at the number of ways cycling can be made accessible.
For example, there are handbikes that attach to a wheelchair. As with all assistive tech it depends on your specific situation what is possible.
Cort@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve frequently seen a couple of people with recumbent hand bikes on one of the popular trails near me. They’re decently fast with the reduced air resistance, but road crossings are a bit of a hassle when you aren’t tall enough to be seen by an f450
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
That blows. Glad the infrastructure helps your chair get around, though. Also, every biker not using a car gives you more space, so that’s an additional plus
96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
Welcome to the Netherlands. If there’s anything that fills me with pride it’s our cycling culture. Most people have a car too, but I don’t, and I do everything by bike and public transport.
vandsjov@feddit.dk 4 weeks ago
Denmark checking in. Not unusual for people in the city not to have a car. I’m happy with my bike that I use every workday to cycle into the city centrum in all weather - I love dressing myself up in rain boots, rain paints and rain jacket and be on my way in heavy rain or snow, feeling like I’m in an episode of Deadliest Catch
sudneo@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I cycled from Bruges to Amsterdam this summer and honestly it was an amazing holiday. Few days with headwind made us wish we had eBikes but the infrastructure was amazing. We basically could cycle on bike roads for 90%+ of the distance and felt very safe doing so. We loved especially Zealand landscape, food and small roads passing through the fields.
I think few countries would have made the holiday so pleasuring and chill, and obviously we encountered just so many people going on with their daily life even between cities with their bikes (I am assuming 20+ km rides). I have noticed that with ebikes also elder people had complete freedom to use bikes as they wished.
I really hope the dutch model is followed by more cities or countries.
Bosht@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I dream of immigrating there.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.
Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.
You can do all of those things with out any planning or notice. You just get in and go wherever the day takes you.
I’m a bit bonkers about bikes. I have a cargo e-bike. It absolutely could do all of these things in separate trips. Doing all of them together would be a challenge but I am 100% here for that so long as nanna is. The main difference is planning. You need different gear, like a bike trailer for example. You’re also probably going to pick the right time of day, like early before it gets too hot or too windy, provided that it’s not raining.
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
That freedom comes at quite a cost. Both to the driver and society. Riding a bike puts the “free” in freedom
bluemellophone@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Taking a vacation road trip from Florida to the Grand Canyon with three kids with only bikes also comes at quite the cost. Bikes are great, but in many practical scenarios they are slow. Not all of us live in Manhattan, or a dense city, or even a well connected and safe to traverse suburb.
The cost is time.
uis@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.
Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.
In such case most freedom has form of freight train.
Lightor@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Or passenger train. One that can go long distances, isn’t limited by your physical ability, and can remain climate controlled so my ice cream doesn’t melt on a 20 minute bike ride in the summer.
letsgo@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
A bicycle gives you freedom of lightweight activities within a few miles of your home. You want to play baritone sax in the band 25 miles away? It’s not happening with a bike.
grue@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve got a cargo e-bike that could handle that just fine.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Team cargo bike!
I also have a cargo bike, the cannondale cargowagen which is a long tail format. This morning I used it to drop my 2x kids at day care and head in to the Library where I am now. Yesterday we went to the beach which was a round trip of 44km or so. It’s just magnificent honestly.
The furthest I’ve gone in a day with the kids is 54km. I estimate one battery would get us 70km, somewhat shy of the 50mi / ~80km round trip you mentioned. Mine does have a slot for a second battery though, which I don’t have.
I get that it’s not for everyone, but for my uses a cargo bike is perfect. The pinnacle of human transport in 2025.
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
A cargo e-bike is basically just an electric moped.
Hoimo@ani.social 4 weeks ago
The 25 miles is a bit much, but if your instrument/sporting gear can fit in a bag, you can carry it on a bike. There’s backpacks for guitars, cellos and tubas and I regularly see kids cycling to their lessons with those. This is a fairly dense town though, so 5km max (20 minutes at child-speeds). Kids also can’t drive cars, so if it’s not happening by bike, it’s not happening at all.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
For me? Yeah 25 miles is a bit much depending on how regular that commute is. Once a week, maybe. Once a day, like a job? 5 miles tops is my limit. But I’ve heard of people doing 20-25 mile work commutes before.
yogaxpto@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not probably, a human riding a bicycle is the most efficient way to convert energy into movement. No other vehicle or animal can be as efficient.
TehWorld@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because showing up to a client meeting dripping in sweat on a 103 degree day is considered to be poor form. Because I got a new job and don’t have an extra two hours in my day to ride a bike back and forth, and moving isn’t in the cards. Because I have to carry a couple kids and all the crap the goes along with them.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
because conservatives are fat
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Anyone who has ridden in rain and adverse weather would know one reason cars are more popular.
merc@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
A related question: why is the “big tough guy” image a guy in a truck?
Like, you push a pedal with your foot to make your vehicle go vroom vroom. A granny could do that.
Surely a tough guy is a guy who is straining huge muscles to make a bike hit 50 km/h. A skilled guy is one who can maneuver his bike down a narrow mountain-bike track.
Imagine looking back in history and seeing a dude being carried around in a sedan chair and thinking that was the ideal image of masculinity, rather than the surely jacked dudes carrying him.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Bikes are awesome. I would love to experience the joy of waking up in the morning and riding a bike to work. No traffic, healthy and all that good shit. I live, however, 40min away from my work by car and 3 hours by bike, one way. I dont see this changing in the foreseeable future.
Amonverite@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Bikes dont contribute to climate change
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Arrive to work soaked in sweat because it’s been 100+ degrees every day for the past 8 weeks.
TDCN@feddit.dk 4 weeks ago
Someone can probably do the math, but i have a hunch that humans are technically not very fuel efficient if you look at calories burned pr the total mass being moved along.
But whatever it is biking is awesome, but being technically correct is even better.
FMT99@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
But what if i need to commute 600 miles to work and back every day and on top of that once a year I drive a million miles to my vacation home? Checkmate!
sheetzoos@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The auto industry will fight tooth and nail to avoid anything that impacts their revenue generation.
ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
> hills
Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Frankly I find bikes stupid as a proposed method of transportation.
I would love to see cities designed around everything needed being in walking distance, with a supply of inexpensive rentable cars for the things that aren’t, like meeting friends that live elsewhere, so we can travel between walkable locations, but at no time do bikes seem a reasonable option.
They have so many inconveniences and problems attached, and don’t provide enough transportation utility to make up for it.
A car provides shelter, climate control, a comfortable and relaxing ride, and enough cargo space to transport most things we could need to transport on any sort of regular basis.
A bike meanwhile provides no shelter from the elements or outdoor temperature, an uncomfortable ride that digs into your ass, requires you to exert yourself significantly, and has between zero and very little cargo space; certainly not enough to do something like shopping for groceries.
Pushing for using bikes as primary transport is ridiculous; there’s a small number of people for which that would work, but for most it doesn’t and never will. For most people, things are either in walking distance, or you need a car, so it’d be a lot better to restructure our living spaces around walking.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
inexpensive
lol, most bikes nowadays cost $1000. Also stolen every time so you have to call Uber. Also can’t get groceries or take the highway.
less likely to kill
More likely to be killed.
HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Because it’s harder to kill someone by hitting them with it.
But in all seriousness, you can go a lot farther, a lot faster, across much worse terrain and weather in a car than a bike.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Make no problem with bikes in Florida, when you arrive you are so drenched in sweat you are no longer presentable and stink to high heaven.
Biking to work if you have an office job is out of the question.
Biking to my gym or KungFu school… Perfect.
Just need the right tool for the right job.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
I used to love to bike but I moved to an area with steep hills and it’s too high effort. Wish they would install those hill lifts some countries have. I walk now. Would love an electric but the expense makes it much more painful when it’s stolen (and every one of my regular bikes has eventually been stolen).
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Where are you all buying bike that don’t hurt your wallet to replace? I guess there are Walmart bikes but I’ve literally had a huffy fall apart while in motion.
sumguyonline@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
$20 gas gets me much, much, much further than $20 in eating high carb prepared food when riding my bike between point A and B. Not fuel efficient, in fact, energy expensive, but it is over all cheaper than a car if you can handle the potential physical abuse of riding a quarter mile up hill to your house. I did this last year while my car was in the shop, I learned I lived at the top of a hill, in the middle of a valley. Lost around 14lbs in a week just running errands, and I was carb loading like crazy. Carbs, meat, sugars, and tons of water. Riding a bike is all laughs and giggles until you’re doing it to get meat and milk to fuel your required errands and despite eating everything in sight you’re still losing weight at a shocking pace… They had my car a month, I was able to hold out on most errands until around just before the final week, went from 179, to 165. Kept eating as I felt I needed and was back up to 175 in about a week after getting my car back, and with recent exercise and pushing myself I dropped to 169 while increasing my max weight, it’s really only surprising when you find I was 280ish lbs just 6 yrs ago… I digress, bikes are tough on the body.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I live in rural Norway up in the mountain side. We have wind, snow, ice and rain like hell, and I have ~150 elevation to get to the main road to get anywhere.
… I’m still considering getting a bike for all the mentioned benefits.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nothing feels more like freedom than being stuck in a traffic jam.
Soup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Don’t forget that maintenance is super cheap AND most people, with only the most basic tools, can do the work in their living room or even just on a sidewalk. And if I don’t get it right and the brakes don’t work perfectly I probably won’t fuckin’ die.
Hi, car owner here. I do all the work myself and it requires a fair bit of knowledge, expensive tools, space, and a childhood where I was never told I couldn’t do that work if I was thoughtful about it. That’s a high fuckin’ bar and requires a whole lot of privilege-oh there it is, too many people with privilege like to shit on those without and most of North America has dogshit for public transit or bike infrastructure and the “freedom of movement” with a car is all there but heavily artificial. Thanks auto industry and their lobbyists.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I do my own bicycle and auto repair, and the bicycle is way easier. Maintenance is:
For tools, you need a wrench set, and probably only like 2-3 sizes.
My yearly maintenance costs for all of our bikes (1 adult, two kids) combined is about $50. If that. You could also go to your local bike shop instead for about double that.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Also this is a healthy maintence regime. In my experience most cyclists only do nothing on that list except swapping flat tubes and their bikes still ride just fine, if not merely sub-optimally.
Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
A quick tip on bike chains; if you are using lubricant you should never use heavy degreaser on the chain. The factory oil is the best lubricant and normal lubes don’t penetrate between links enough.
However, if you are going to degrease you chains, you should use paraffin wax instead of lube. I have an 11 speed chain with 3000+ miles and it’s only showing around 1% stretch. I don’t even use fancy bike specific wax, just food grade gulf wax. Another plus is the whole drive train is dry; doesn’t get your hands dirty if you need to remove a wheel, cassette, or derailleur.
Admittedly waxing the chain is a pain in the ass, but some of my chains are like $70 a pop so getting as much life from them is more important.
Soup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Exactly!
wolfpack86@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Get a quick link and a mason jar with mineral spirits to clean your chain. Easy peasy.
dipcart@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This was one of the things that surprised me the most about getting a bike. Parts are cheap. The work is easy. Knowing how to do it is valuable.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And if you have a bike with a belt you can replace all chain-related maintenance with “check if the belt looks weird maybe once a year”.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
For the newer cars, the lockout of self repair is real. You need an EEPROM reader to get the diagnostics out, and only then using firmware found on a chinese forum. Fixing a part requires you to just order a replacement, and once you take apart the car and put the part in, you then need to tell the cars electronics to accept the part as part of its diagonistics or it wont fucking start, even if everything else is fine.
Soup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yea that’s nearly 100% untrue, though. TPMS sensors can be a little weird but no one is changing tires themselves, only whole wheels for summer/winter.
Brakes, sparkplugs, tierods, suspension, all oils, many sound systems and/or parts thereof, filters, batteries, and even a whole headlight assembly are all things you don’t need to tell the car about. I put a backup camera in my car and it just figured it out all on it’s own since there was technically an option for it, and I wasn’t even using an OEM camera. And the car usually doesn’t even know what’s wrong but if there IS a code you can just use an OBD2 reader, they aren’t exactly expensive and they’re super easy to use.
You either have no idea what you’re talking about or are a mechanic that I’m glad I’m not taking my vehicle to. My 2015 BRZ that has literally none of that, not even TPMS sensors(I know 2015 is not that new anymore but people have been saying this shit for decades). This is exactly why I show people how it works, so that they can understand that it’s not that hard or complicated.
P.S.: if it’s a German vehicle just shoot yourself, it’ll be a much less painful experience than realizing that a bunch of high-paid engineers with great reputations among the laypeople are really just the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet. Also less physically painful, too. You can still do the work, they just put everything in terrible places and use bolts that have needlessly unique and more fragile heads. Fuck you, VW, you idiots.
merc@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Not to mention that modern cars contain multiple computers. Those computers include DRM, making it a felony to bypass them.
Soup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Certainly depends on the car. Also they aren’t so much full-fledged “computers” in that sense as electronics with simple relays and formulas to do stuff like make ABS work, supply the correct fuel/air mixture, or turn your automatic headlights on. Most anything the average person will be doing with their vehicle on a regular basis is completely outside of the electronics.
As far as having a right to work on your vehicle that you own goes, yes that’s absolutely a problem that you would be locked out of those systems but you probably won’t be anywhere near them, either. As far as bike vs car maintenance goes it doesn’t matter how easy or open the car is, shit’s still difficult for many people, time consuming, and incredibly expensive.
Note: I’m pushing back right now on that one point because the idea that modern cars somehow know everything you do is complete horseshit made up by people who are afraid of technology and act like you need a computer science degree to unplug a sensor and plug a new one back in.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Mechanical work comes pretty easy to me. I have no doubt I can fix virtually anything on my bike, short of things that require welding (we might see about that someday too…).
But cars mechanical work? Tried it some times. Frustrating as hell, don’t even want to touch it. I hate everything about cars, including the way they’re built.
Batman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think it heavily depends on the make. Both my families mustang and f150 were terrible to repair. But my camry by comparison is a joy. I can tear it apart almost the whole way with a 10 and 12 mm in an afternoon.
I’ve done work in soft manufacturing, so i know how to use a wrench, but never worked in cars.
Soup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Trick is to buy a Subaru. Everything is just nice and simple, and there’s lots of space to do everything. I’ve only owned them but I’ve helped family and friends with all kinds of other makes and it sucked.