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Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

A quick tip on bike chains; if you are using lubricant you should never use heavy degreaser on the chain. The factory oil is the best lubricant and normal lubes don’t penetrate between links enough.

However, if you are going to degrease you chains, you should use paraffin wax instead of lube. I have an 11 speed chain with 3000+ miles and it’s only showing around 1% stretch. I don’t even use fancy bike specific wax, just food grade gulf wax. Another plus is the whole drive train is dry; doesn’t get your hands dirty if you need to remove a wheel, cassette, or derailleur.

Admittedly waxing the chain is a pain in the ass, but some of my chains are like $70 a pop so getting as much life from them is more important.

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Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Wax can flake off leaving that space unprotected. You have to check it more regularly than a lubed chain and dry it off after rain. It’s not uncommon for a waxed chain to rust. But a big pro is cleanness of the chain and you won’t get greasy hands.

Personally I keep using (eco-friendly) lube. Yes the chain gets dirty fast but I don’t care. :D

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- Anivia@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Or just go for a belt instead of a chain and never worry about that again
  
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- Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The roller links are what you want lubricated and protected, and wax stays in those places much better than liquid lubes. While some chunks will flake off there is a thin layer left behind, I ride near the ocean pretty frequently and had worse rust problems when I was using lube. Ofc whatever works for you is the best practice but wax has been very easy for me. I track my rides, after about 150 miles I re-wax the chain. I’ve never found that I have to check it more often, but I also ride steel frames so I don’t ride in the rain anyways.
  
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  - Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    I don’t ride in the rain
    
    That’s probably the difference between us. I ride all-year all-weather.
    
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    Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Also shows a big difference in location between us. I only have like 2 weeks out of the year that I have to break out the indoor rollers because of rain.
    
    Hope you stay safe though, I wish everyone could have the benefit of coastal desert weather.
    
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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I have an 11 speed chain with 3000+ miles and it’s only showing around 1% stretch.

Wow, that’s a solid chain. I usually need to replace mine around 2000-3000, but my chains are like $20-30, and I don’t treat them very well (I stay on high gears on short climbs a bit too long).

I haven’t bothered with wax, maybe I should. I just do a decent job lubing everything a few times per year. I degrease (chain only, I’m careful around the derailleur and hub), rinse thoroughly, dry thoroughly, and then lube and wipe 2x. I don’t get any squeaks and it rides smoother after a cleaning, so I think I’m doing a decent job.

But I’ve heard wax is more of a one and done thing. Maybe I’ll try it the next time I replace my chain.

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- Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Oh I’m sure you’re doing a decent job and wax isn’t a perfect solution for everyone. I’m just saying that one of the reasons you may only get 2k miles out of a chain is the degreaser takes away the factory oil. When I was on lube I was getting about 1% stretch per 1k miles, but it also depends a lot on the drivetrain and what kind of riding you do.
  
  I would definitely consider wax though, especially if you move up into 10, 11, or 12 speed drivetrains. Everything is so damn expensive on them that wax is well worth the extra work, not just the chain but my cassettes look almost new still.
  
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