A Direct is announced for April 2nd to cover the games.
Hoping they add Hall effect sensors and eliminate drift once and for all
Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed
Submitted 4 days ago by ampersandrew@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://venturebeat.com/games/nintendo-switch-2-finally-officially-revealed/
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ieatpwns@lemmy.world 4 days ago
FrodoSpark@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It looks like the controllers attach to the screen magnetically, which may interfere with the sensors of Hall Effect sticks
riskable@programming.dev 3 days ago
Hall effect sensor expert here! No, the magnets in the joycons that are used to attach to the display/body of the Switch 2 would not interfere with hall effect analog sticks.
Two reasons:
- The magnets are too far away (sensors are usually only sensitive within 10-12mm directly above/below)
- The mounting/attachment magnets would be perpendicular to the magnets in the analog sticks (if you imagine the flux lines they wouldn’t cross the sensory boundary).
Regardless, it would be trivial to place a tiny little piece of ferromagnetic blocking tape wherever necessary to prevent interference.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 4 days ago
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m not a scientist but I’m pretty sure theyd be able to calibrate the sensors to ignore the magnetic force of the attachment points
dtrain@lemmy.world 4 days ago
olicvb@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Rumors/Leaks had them and they were right about what we see in the trailer so hopefully. I’m hoping yes, nintendo must be tired of repairing joycons ^^
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
The joy cons were awful for that.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I updated my Joycons to the hall effect sticks and they’re awesome. No drift after several months.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Can’t help but be a little disappointed. The last few consoles have all been pretty drastically different, but this is just the Switch released again. Only with different connections so you need all new accessories.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 days ago
Nintendo collapsed its console and handheld product lines for the Switch. We’re also seeing large parts of the gaming industry adopt the Switch form factor for their products. I don’t think there is anything that Nintendo could innovate on that would sell.
Lesrid@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Yeah with Nintendo watching two Xboxes languish and consumer discontent with the recent playstations as well, there’s not a real impetus for something radical in design. Some innovation would be exciting but the Switch and PC Handhelds prove people want big grippy mobile devices, even if they’re only moving between rooms.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 3 days ago
At the same time, the Switch is such a solid console that a hardware upgrade with full backwards compatibility* is really the best case scenario. People have wanted a bigger screen, better chip, and better joysticks since launch, and now we’ll have them!
*the video says it’s not 100% compatible, but I’m assuming that’s for stuff like Labo and Ring Fit that need those exact joycon sizes/shapes.
Duenan@aussie.zone 3 days ago
I’m hoping that with the Ring Fit, to get around that restriction we can just pair the Switch 1 joycons to the Switch 2 console and use them detached.
In theory that might still work.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Yeah, I guess I was just hoping for more of a new generation type reveal, rather than a sequel to the Switch. Better hardware is definitely a plus though, would be nice to replay TotK or Pokemon SV with better graphics & performance. I still wonder if those two games were meant to release alongside a Switch 2 prior to the chip shortage.
avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
They’ll probably at least try to somehow make the mig switch non-functional on the switch 2, which could cause some other games to not work.
thehatfox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Nintendo consoles tended to be radical, Nintendo handhelds were more iterative.
The Game Boy and DS lines all built gradually on each other, seems the Switch line is following suit. I assume Nintendo see the Switch as a handheld that can be docked, rather than a console that’s also portable, so I guess it makes sense that it’s following a similar trajectory of previous handheld lines.
frank@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
I mean the DS was pretty radical at the time.
I feel like Nintendo does a huge innovation, then an iteration or two(or a bunch of little changes), then back to a big change. Wii/WiiU, GB/GBA, DS/3DS, switch/2
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I get why - the Switch was the successor of both their console and handhelds, and it did very well. Why change it?
MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You’d need all new accessories anyway with a complete redesign.
I’ve bought every Nintendo console up until the Wii U. Since they abandoned that early, I decided to skip the Switch. I’ll likely pick this up. If this doesn’t do well and gets abandoned early again, I’ll at least get to play all the games I’ve missed over the years due to backwards compatibility.
kipo@lemm.ee 3 days ago
The Switch has so many good games! Sure, most are available on other platforms as well, but overall it’s such a great system.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Every single console reveal, there’s a take exactly like this, and it always ages like milk. Every time.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I don’t follow - is it going to somehow transform into something that isn’t a switch?
TAG@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I am hoping that the Joycon mouse mode turns out real and used in some interesting ways.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I totally missed that the first time I watched it. That’d be awesome.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think I read that old joycons will still work with it in wireless mode.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Cool for Nintendo fans but the ROG Ally has changed the game for me. I’ll miss Pokémon but they haven’t been good in a while so whatever.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The Pokemon games all being the same caused me to get bored of them years ago. And now with them suing Palworld for ‘capturing monsters with an object and summoning them in 3d space’, a patent made after Palworld released their trailer, I find the Nintendo brand actively harmful to the state of gaming.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
They actively become easier and shorter every generation. Arceus brought a lot of cool stuff into the series and there was a little bit of hope that things would improve only for them to go back to the stale old formula that wouldn’t be as bad if the games weren’t so easy now that you could beat them by mashing A. I know it’s for kids but damn, the old games were somewhat challenging.
_____@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Pokemon is literally the same game over and over, I hugely regretted my purchase of pokemon x cause it was literally a cloned game with barely any new features. It’s probably Nintendo’s most effective cash cow in terms of effort to capital reward.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
It is literally the biggest money maker in the world. The games sell about 3/5 as many copies as COD with a tiny fraction of the budget. And then they sell even more in merch. And there are people (like me in the past) that buy Nintendo consoles just for those games.
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 days ago
X and Y introduced Mega Evolution, arguably one of the greatest iterative improvements in Pokémon.
With the upcoming Pokémon Legends: Z-A in 2025, I’m thinking about replaying X and Y.
Scarlet and Violet were so disappointing that I too am hesitant about future Pokémon games. But I’ll keep my eyes and ears peeled to see how their upcoming games are. I no longer am a day one buyer of Pokémon games, after being burned badly on the rushed Scarlet/Violet games.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sub in literally any Nintendo franchise and it’s the same problem, but Nintendo fans don’t care.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 days ago
I jumped through a couple hoops to get Pokemon Infinite Fusion working on my Steam Deck & I’ve been having a blast slapping shit together to see how fucked up it looks.
Cleffa + Geodude made me giggle for a good 5 minutes.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I can play them on my Steam Deck. Just fyi.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Oh I know, I’m just not a big fan of sailing the seas these days. But I might just give it a go with the ones I own just to see how they run.
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 days ago
palworld is great
Strider@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Well Windows is a no for me on that. And while the steam deck is nice and the OS runs on the ally too, it’s still a pc with all it’s pros and cons.
(I use both worlds BTW)
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
The ROG Crate software is actually pretty good. It’s not perfect but I rarely have to interact with Windows at all and once you get used to the controls when doing so not all that bad. And I dislike Windows a lot, but if I feel that it’s mostly a non issue. I wouldn’t go for a SteamOS version either, as I like Gamepass.
Zorque@lemmy.world 3 days ago
What are the pros and cons you’re considering, and how do they compare to the pros and cons of a Nintendo console?
mlg@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yuzu 2 when
MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 3 days ago
If it’s anything like how the Wii was basically a GameCube it may not even be all that hard to rework existing switch emulators to work with switch 2 games. Given that it’s going to have full back compat I bet that’s why they went after switch emus so hard. They wanted to halt development as much as possible for as long as possible so it doesn’t eat away at they’re switch 2 sales.
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I recall reading something about Nintendo wanting to include Denuvo in the Switch 2. Will be interesting to see whether or not this one’s games and consoles are cracked wide open as readily as before.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
2zu
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This blog post is worthless. A direct link to the official video announcement would be better.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It had worth to me, as someone who was stuck in a place where it was unacceptable to watch a video but was acceptable instead to read a summary quietly.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Can’t wait… for a Switch 2 emulator
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yuzutu?
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Looks starkly… Non-Nintedo-y?
I dunno, changing from the full colored joycons to black with accents and more rounded corners caught me off guard. This looks like a handheld from GPD or ONEXPLAYERthehatfox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Everything has to look so serious these days.
The colourful Joy Cons were part of the Switch’s identity, sad to see it reduced to an accent they seem almost ashamed of.
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I’m sure that they’ll have a billion models with more color
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 days ago
True theseloook rather serious. That said their customer base is also far wider than children these days.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I bought a game on switch for like 40 bucks that ended up being really bad, and tried to get it refunded within about two hours of purchase, after about thirty minutes of play time. Couldn’t get the refund.
Ever since, I was VERY slow to buy anything, because, what if it’s unexpectedly bad? I have to know I mean it, otherwise I shouldn’t buy it. I want to buy a game, not flush money down the toilet.
So, now I kind of just don’t want a Switch 2.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 3 days ago
I’ll wait for the OLED model, because apparently this isn’t it.
bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Thoroughly whelmed
g1ya777@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Retro compatibilty probably powered by Yuzu ?
MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 days ago
Lol. I did put my money on “barely distinguishable from the Switch 1, maybe bigger”. I guess I win the betting pool.
I’m mainly happy because I didn’t want to be tempted to support Nintendo’s lawsuit happy asses, anyway.
If they ever release a Virtual Boy Mini, my conscience will never recover from my own hypocrisy, though.
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Can’t wait to play tears of the kingdom at 30 fps
demizerone@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m an og Nintendo hype veteran from the days of N64. This is the first where I ignored all the rumors. I am not impressed also not disappointed.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
I look forward to pirating all those games too.
MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I really don’t like the logo. I know why the logo looks that way considering the Wii U branding debacle, but still.
LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
I prefered colorful joycons, but I’m also blad that, there is audio jack port.
CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My question is the dock an eGPU?
JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Let’s go! I’m excited for hardware that will run Pokemon Violet/Scarlet at a non-dog shit framerate (other than pirating).
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 days ago
The rumor is that the price is going to be $450 for just the console and $500 for the console with Mario Kart bundled. May or may not be true, but it’s certainly plausible given how expensive electronics have gotten since 2017. I was thinking of pre-ordering after the Apr. 2 Direct, but if that price is accurate I’ll look into getting a Steam Deck instead. A lower price was the biggest advantage the original Switch had.
NastyNative@mander.xyz 3 days ago
Will this still play switch 1 games? (Physical cartridges)
maplebar@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Well, it’s a bigger, better Switch alright…
A little bit underwhelming hardware-wise. Extra joycon L/R don’t seem like they’ll factor in much in most singleplayer docked or handheld settings. The mouse thing (if that’s what they’re showing) is somewhat interesting and helps to keep touch controls relevant when docked. Top USB port, sure. Backwards compatibility is great news. Screen is…?
As always with Nintendo I think it comes down to the games. Mario Kart 9 hasn’t blown me away just yet, but we’ve barely seen anything at all so…
To be continued in April.
TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
The joycon sliding on the table, is that a mouse-mode? @1:11 in the reveal trailer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ
tophneal@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
I hope this hardware will stand a chance playing no man’s sky. After the freighters were introduced the switch just couldn’t handle it
Tekkip20@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The trailer was pretty cool and I liked the bigger screen. I can’t wait to see more of what they will reveal.
And backwards compatible games? That’s gonna be a money saver for sure!
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Has Nintendo even released a game since that second Zelda game?
telllos@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Why would the keep this right joystick sooooooo low! I can’t play the switch.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Nintendo Switch 2 such a bad name
billwashere@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“Revealed”….
uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
So much for Nintendo’s previous naming conventions. I was really hoping for the New Super Nintendo Switch U.
caut_R@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They wanna be very clear that this is their best-selling console ever but better, I would‘ve been surprised if they didn‘t just slap a 2 on it. There‘s so much riding on this for them.
smeg@feddit.uk 4 days ago
I don’t think Nintendo have ever done a Console 2 before though. I was hoping for Super Switch but as ever Nintendo absolutely refuse to be predictable!
Carighan@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Plus it’s an actual straight upgrade, what with backwards compatibility and all.
dustyData@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I think that’s still the DS. The Switch got close, but didn’t beat it, and now that attention is on the Switch2, it probably won’t.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 days ago
Well they did just slap a 3 onto the DS
someguy3@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Super Nintendo Switch 128 Dodecahedron.
CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
& Knuckles
Devorlon@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
They got scared after what happened with the Wii U.
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
The new 3ds was very confusing too
Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I was hoping for the Swiitch
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I’ll be waiting for the swivtch
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 days ago
It occurred to me that this was the first time Nintendo has ever not used some new weird naming convention for a successor console. Just 2.
Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I’d buy a Nintendo Switchety-Four in a heartbeat
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 days ago
…Cube 128
Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 3 days ago
New Super Mario Bros U2 Deluxe & Knuckles