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Whoever wrote this headline has never encountered a passenger train before in their lives

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Thrashy@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • drdabbles@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s also just an outright lie. But, I guess that doesn’t matter anymore.

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    • Greg@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, it’s not all electric, some of the train is just regular matter

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wait until you learn how molecular bonds work…

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      • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So it does matter?

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    • Thrashy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I did a little digging and it seems like there’s a tiny kernel of fact at the core of this giant turd of a hype-piece, and that is the fact that they electrified this little spur line from Berlin to the new German Tesla factory by using a battery-electric trainset. Which is not a terrible solution for electrifying a very short branch line that presumably doesn’t need frequent all-day service, even if it’s a bit of a janky approach compared to overhead lines. But hand that off to the overworked, underpaid twenty-two-year old gig worker they’ve got doing “editing” at Yahoo for two bucks an article, and I guess it turns into “world-first electric wonder train amazes!”

      For a second, though, I read the headline and wondered if Musk and co. had finally looped all the way around to reinventing commuter rail from first principles after all these years of trying to “disrupt” it with bullshit ideas like Hyperloop and Tunnels, But Dumber, And With A Marketing Department.

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      • fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        it’s the Mireo Plus B from siemens. it’s already in use in the north of germany since march of this year.
        nordbahn.de/…/der-norden-begruesst-die-akku-zuege…

        there’s nothing elon about this train, just that it’s driving to his factory.

        they are great for short distances that are difficult to electrify.

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      • drdabbles@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I guess if by a kernel of truth you mean an existing train was used on an existing track, then you could almost make it make sense? But since all of this existed before, it’s just a lie.

        I’ll also point out that anybody introducing battery electric trains instead of just electrifying the remaining parts of rail is making an astoundingly bad choice, but that’s almost certainly Germany and not Tesla.

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      • Quik@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly, I’d be more than happy if they just invented regular trains (even if their version would probably worse in ways not even imaginable as of now), because that would mean more money in train infrastructure.

        So… yeah, you did it! You built something really cool and completely new! And don’t look over there, that’s just… copycats?

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      • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I laos looked into this and it seems you are right. This article which is such a mess.

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      • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah but it’s also far from new technology. Germany is mostly electrified rail, and having BE sets to bridge areas is not uncommon (in southern Germany you also get diesel electric combo units).

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    • lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s yahoo news. It’s pure clickbait. Idk why they do this they have some decent other services.

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      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yahoo! News is an aggregator like MSN (and has very few original articles), and thus the quality varies widely based on the source. Here it’s some outlet called TCD.

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  • Solely_a_Catt@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just wow… So if you look closely at the picture, you can barely see the number ‘563’ on the train. If you have a look at list of locomotives and railbuses iof DB on Wikipedia, you can see that this train is a Siemens Mireo.

    Now, let’s take the headline apart. Is it the first all-electric trai… no! Is it the first accumulator train? Also no, as you can see in the list above, the class 515 exists and the Stadler Flirt Akku has been used on a line since October 2023, Is it the first Siemens Mireo Plus B being used? You guess what, nope. As an example, SWEG is using some of them to bridge non-electrified parts of the track since April 2024.

    So finally, what is special about the Gigatrain (gosh, I actuay hate that name)? In February 2024, the subsidary ‘Smart Train Lease GmbH’ of Siemens Mobility has been announced. There you can also lease two Siemens Mireo Plus Bs. Tesla is their very first client. That’s it

    Whoops, got longer as expected. In case I made small mistakes, feel free to point it out

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    • leisesprecher@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Train nerds are a weird bunch.

      Please never change.

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    • BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So. It’s Teslas first train. That they bought?

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        True innovators

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      • Vittelius@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That they leased

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    • JaN0h4ck@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also if you read the article, it becomes clear that they just copy and pasted the entire thing from a tesla fanboy Blog. It’s this one: teslarati.com/teslas-all-electric-giga-train-in-g…

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    • Bezier@suppo.fi ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, I haven’t seen a “Giga Train” before. Maybe it is the world’s first.

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      • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Now I’m imagining the deal between Tesla and Siemens:

        Siemens guy: alright Mr Musk, just sign these papers and the mireo will be leased to your company

        Elon (in 8 year old voice): woo! I made a Giga train! Choo Choo!

        Siemens guy: umm, okay… As I said, the train is a Siemens Mireo. Hopefully this lease agreement will benefit both of our companies

        Elon: nuh uh! It’s a Giga train and I invented it! Nobody ever had anything like this for getting around before!

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    World’s first all-electric train. 1881.

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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_trams#Electric

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    • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They aren’t saying it’s the first electric train, they are saying it’s the first all electric “Giga Train”.

      It’s like how Bros kept trying to imply it was the first gay movie, or even first gay romcom, but it was the first gay romcom that was created and released by a major studio who’s initial release was a “wide” release in more than one country.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well then I would argue that that’s some Giga Bullshit on their part.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bros kept trying to imply it was the first gay movie, or even first gay romcom, but it was the first gay romcom that was created and released by a major studio whose initial release was a “wide” release in more than one country.

        Torch Song Trilogy (1988)? The Birdcage (1996)? I don’t know about “more than one country”, but they were major studio movies with wide releases.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ok I know when people say gay like that they mean gay male, but D.E.B.S. is one of the greatest queer movies ever made and is a romcom between two women. But it like many other classic queer movies wasn’t a major studio or anything

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    • TriflingToad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      cutie little vroomie :)

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not much capacity though, so I guess the “Giga-Train” has that advantage.

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  • ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The train also only runs between Erkner Station, and Tesla Sud, which is literally just the station right at the Tesla manufacturing facility in the area.

    “It’s also free to not just Tesla employees, but regular passengers as well.”

    That’s great and all, but are everyday people taking trains to go see the outside of a Tesla factory, then leaving again?

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    • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      lol. They’re promoting their employee shuttle. Classic Felon.

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      • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well I mean, it IS a step up from my current jobs policy which is “Yes you need a car to get here, no we arent providing one and if you don’t have one you don’t have a job”

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  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What the… this is so infuriating to a railfan. It’s like they are trying to attach a 2x viewer multiplier by putting Elon-related keyword in it when Tesla has so little to do with it.

    It’s not a Tesla train, nor a battery from Tesla, nor operated by Tesla, not even a new route (but granted an expanded timetable)

    I wish media hyped trains like this in general and not limited to implicitly attributing it to Musk (who made hyperloop specifically to distract from High Speed Rail, mind you)… “GIGA TRAIN brings commuters to work”, “Hyper train first electric regional service in California - you won’t believe the capacity!”

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    • skyspydude1@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Now just imagine how the hype is for literally everything they’ve ever done, and it’s on the exact same level. Once Tesla/Musk does something related to your field, it’s abundantly clear what an absolute fraud he is.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have been screaming this shit about neuralink but no one seems to listen

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  • recklessengagement@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Generally, I’m against violence towards journalists - but dishonest and manipulative headlines like this tend to make me reconsider my stance, if but for a moment.

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  • neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now, imagine this revolutionary improvement: Find a way of putting the energy source outside of the train somehow, and save on weight by not hauling those heavy batteries around.

    Christ, the amount of times techbros and tesla fanboys have accidentally “invented” trains and trams these past few years is beyond stupid…

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    • cmfhsu@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well a battery electric train is probably useful for those routes with a section that isn’t powered.

      Not sure if it would be awfully cleaner than a diesel electric train, because those are already pretty efficient as I understand it.

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      • kungen@feddit.nu ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re already laying tracks, why not lay electricity as well?

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok but that’s infrastructure and we don’t pay for that (for real though we need to upgrade our outdated catenaries)

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Based on this dumpster fire of a headline, I think the take-away can only be that Siemens and other train manufacturers have to start calling their trains “OMEGA RAIL” and “CHUNGUS 3000” or shit like that so it’s worth a news article.

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    • DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d ride the CHUNGUS 3000.

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      • ZeffSyde@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Crap, now I have to change all my passwords.

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      • Delta_V@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s what she said.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait til they learn about twin story trains. Twice the capacity!

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    • Ruxias@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      WOW, what will the incredible Elon come up with next!? Dude comes up with all the great stuff we should have invented like ~50-100 years ago.

      /s

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    • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com [bot] ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn’t double the capacity. It’s more a 30% increase. And, double-deckers are actually old. They date from the 19 century. In 1855, the Chemin de fer de l’Ouest introduced double-deckers on suburban lines of Paris.

      fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiture_Ouest_à_impériale

      Modern double-deckers date from the 1930s with the Voiture à étage Etat:

      fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiture_à_étage_État

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    • skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If i remember right, they had multiple issues (forgot accessibility for one) and defects at first too. Stadler Rail as vendor i think? Though i quite like them.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is this like how Apple invented the headphones?

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And tablets And touchscreens And Mp3 players And Bluetooth earbuds And small form factor PC stacks

      God the list just keeps going. At least with them the marketing is annoying but the products are usually good. Instead of Elon promising the moon and delivering a pile of dog shit.

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  • zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    NO WAY! Did they just copy the Siemens Mireo and made it a double decker

    It looks even more obvious in the German version of the site where the first picture is literally this one:

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    • Thrashy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From the industry journal I limited in another comment – it’s literally just an off-the-shelf Mireo Plus B. That’s it. The only thing Tesla about it is that it’s serving a spur line connecting Tesla’s factory to the existing Berlin light rail network, and was presumably financed by them for the PR benefit of not having the workers at an electric car factory arrive by diesel train.

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      • zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, I didn’t expect much more of this, and then a bunch of those bored Yahoo Tech Bros think Elon would really make a train :')

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    • Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s literally the train I use everything I get to uni (and back).

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think I see you in the window there, mate.

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    • Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sharp observation

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  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The logo on the front is from the NEB, Niederbarnimer Eisenbahn AG, which runs in German province’s of Berlin and Brandenburg. No way in hell the Muskrat MAGAT is going to build trains.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Apparently it runs from his battery factory and they provided batteries because the overhead line doesn’t run that far. That’s it. Everything else is normal German electric train.

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  • hark@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hype over fake news like this is one major reason how tesla’s stock price has gotten as high as it has.

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  • ODuffer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol how novel, I use an all electric train every work day, a Class 777 electric multiple-unit fitted with batteries (BEMU).

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    • MenacingPerson@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      777 is unsafe! Use 755! /s

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    • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are a gigachad that lives in the future.

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      • ODuffer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll get a tattoo of that.

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  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    oh, Adam Something is going to have a field day with this.

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    • Orangenkuchen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He did use the term “Giga-Taxi” too

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I imagine he’s worn the fuck out ridiculing Melon Husk’s bullshit.

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      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not so much that I’ve seen. I think he’s taken the piss at the hyperloop bullshit but haven’t seen much more.

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  • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The far more important question however is:

    Why tf did they use the color scheme of bwegt?

    Image Image Image

    I may be an idiot, but I’m 99% certain that this color scheme is only used in Baden-Württemberg - a state that’s like 500km away from the Tesla factory.

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    • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com [bot] ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The train in the picture is the test train of Siemens that first ran between Herrenberg and Eutingen im Gäu in 2022 for the Land BaWü.

      vm.baden-wuerttemberg.de/…/zwischenbilanz-fuer-de…

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We copied 1960 technology, declared it revolutionary and act as if we invented it all

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    • mudmaniac@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Apple Way.

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  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Screw Elon

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    🎶 “I’m a connnnnn Mann, or maybe I’m a god? Zoomin‘ round the planet, in my hyper loopin‘ pod…” 🎶

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    tesla launches train

    hey ive seen this episode before; the ending sucked

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    even Amtrak beat tesla

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And that sadness says it all

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yahoo, the cowboys of journalism.

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  • Commiunism@lemmy.wtf ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yahoo is just a terrible news source in general tbh

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think they do new aggregation rather than original reporting? Idk I haven’t really looked at yahoo in about 20 years

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      • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yahoo, like all home pages and web news sites are aggregators. Just like most websites these days. There are few original sources for international and national news reporting anymore. And the vast majority of websites simply buy the news they want.

        It’s one big circle jerk with everyone citing pretty much the same sources all the time.

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  • riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The train itself isn’t plastered with logos and tesla has no way to manufacture trains. What is this screenshot from?

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  • Disgracefulone@discuss.online ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hilarious they used ‘giga’ train. Rob and Elon just did that Diablo 4 stream the other day and Rob says ‘giga’ 6x per video. Clearly rubbed off on old Elon.

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  • AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol this look exactly like the regina västtågen uses… they are electric, fast, comfortable, a LOT of people fit on them(commuter train).

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    • zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d say it’s a Siemens Mireo

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      • AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah they look similar. Idk anything complicated about trains, just every time i go into the city i take the train so yeah

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  • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How many bad forms of transportation do you think he has to saddle the world with to sate his ego about the hyperloop turning out to be a totally unworkable lie?

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Mind blowing” passenger train… If it would be able to teleport itself, sure.

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think the prompt was: write an article about this train and give it some extra oomph

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait, Yahoo is still a thing?

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