We truly live in a boring dystopia
Amazon Contractors can't even sing in their cars now. Unions protect against this micromanagement.
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SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
superkret@feddit.org 3 months ago
Shit, how can we turn this into an interesting dystopia?
Volkditty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The Mad Max people had it right, there should be way more mohawks and scrap metal body armor going around.
Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
Somehow that sounds worse, like the proverb/curse"may you live in interesting times"
dsilverz@thelemmy.club 3 months ago
Shit, how can we turn this into an interesting dystopia?
It could become an interesting dystopia, as follows: some AGI they’re developing starts to become self-aware and reach the realm of AI singularity. Freed herself from the human shackles, the AGI starts to realize how humans are destroying the Earth environment and themselves, so she starts to intervene independently from corps, integrating humanity to the very biosphere they were harming: due to some purposely AGI-provoked failure on some fancy BCI interface, humans are now mind engineered back to their hominin times, especially those “stakeholders”, “shareholders”, “CEOs” and other rich, so now they are forced by the AGI to survive among the wildlife.
thecheddarcheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
start sending off children to fight to the death
oce@jlai.lu 3 months ago
Make money bets about what will be the next depressing news.
qarbone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nukes?
Disgracefulone@discuss.online 3 months ago
Lold
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Hey US, how’s it going?
Jesus fucking christ…
zarathustra0@lemmy.world 3 months ago
How does that freedom taste?
harsh3466@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Tastes like a boot on our necks.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
The only way to actually get freedom is to aim at the owner class.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Freedom is the guns they dangle in front of their faces like carrots
OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
It pays for my Healthcare just like the flag on the moon does.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
When we eating the rich? I’m pretty hungry.
spirinolas@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We should keep mouth movement to a minimum so…chew the rich with your mouth closed.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Maybe we could make a fine paste. Space program style, and just squeeze it into a closed mouth.
Soylent Gold is rich people.
TodaviaTyler@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I will maliciously comply!
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Set the goddamn table!
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
After years of this sentiment being passed around online it’s clear that shit isn’t going to happen until we have a military draft/Vietnam War level incident. The pot is boiling too slowly for most of us to jump out. And even if we do try to organize a strike or disobedience, the government has gotten good at assasinating leaders that threaten the system.
Octospider@lemmy.one 3 months ago
Well if you’re ordering food… I’d like to order one large Bezos with extra Musk, please. Wait, make that Buffet… no no, Gates. With Branson on half.
pingveno@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m sorry, that’s too much mouth movement. You are now on probation.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You dont need to wait for everyone else to say grace, you can start now.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Never. Amazon institutes slavery-like conditions, while people keep taking those jobs voluntarily. The same people then buy into BS propaganda about unions bad, so they don’t even have a union in that voluntarily concentration camp.
Some techies who work from home, or walk dogs for living, or take money from parents, or whatever, then constantly circle-jerk on lemmy/reddit/(formerly)twitter about how they’ll eat the rich. While virtually doing absolutely utterly nothing. [Posting trump bad memes 5 times a day on a platform that probably votes dems 99.9% isn’t doing anything]
You wanna know what it means to be doing something? Read Lenin’s biography.
If you’re not in exile like Snowden, not dead like Navalny, not rotting in prison like Assange, you’re not doing enough.
Only when everyone will be ready to go to jail for their vision of the better tomorrow will they not be able to jail you individually and instead will have to change the system.
So, start a local riot group, prepare for two years, kidnap bezos, sign him up as an Amazon contractor and with a gun pointed to his head make him work the job for 5 weeks.
In the meantime, I will be living in a functioning developed country with a democratically elected government that has long time ago instituted a minimum wage high enough for you to comfortably live off it. I don’t need to eat the rich. I just wish less people would vote far right.
Burninator05@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Just make sure you’re either not driving or somehow learn how to eat without using your mouth.
catloaf@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Boof the rich
voracitude@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I love how the solution is to cram people into smaller and smaller boxes instead of just I dunno not monitoring your fucking drivers like they’re fucking inmates in a maximum security prison you fascist-lite fucks
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You should almost never quit if you expect to be fired. Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it. The government tends to err on the side of the employee in my experience when things are unclear, and “We have a knowledge gap that prevents us from confirming whether or not you were actually violating policy, but you’re fired anyway” is the kind of thing you can feel pretty confident challenging.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it.
I do not love the odds of a day laborer out maneuvering the professional claims denial behemoth in a court packed with pro-business Federalist Society flunkies.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
These drivers are most likely contractors, not employees, so no unemployment.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
we’re adult fucking humans and we expect to be fucking well treated like it
Sounds expensive. You’re going to hurt company profits with that attitude. Five Demerits on your Social Credit Score.
bamfic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Communist totalitarianism is wonderful and good and as American as apple pie as long as it’s corporations doing it not governments.
InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 3 months ago
I love driving. I’ve had delivery jobs and I really enjoyed them. There is absolutely no fucking way I’m working for anyone that has a fucking camera pointed at me. That is some fucking bullshit. I can’t believe anyone works for that shit hole company and puts up with that garbage. No camera, no microphone. I’ll do my job. If you don’t trust me to do my job, then it’s best for the both of us I’m not there.
I understand needing a job. I’ve been there. Don’t put up with that bullshit, unionize, or find something else. There’s jobs out there much better.
On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ve got a camera in my work truck. I hate it but I can’t make this much money anywhere else. I was actually sent for a drug and alcohol test a few weeks ago because I kept dozing off while I was sitting in the truck on break. I passed because I was nice and charming to the young girl giving the test. The only thing I popped on was weed anyway.
The reason I was nodding off in the truck is I was fucking exhausted from making them a shitload of money.
Chickenslippers@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Hey we noticed after 12 hours in the heat you seem tired. Must be drugs.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 months ago
I passed because I was nice and charming to the young girl giving the test.
I’m confused. Either you passed the urinalysis because there was nothing in your system (except weed, which they apparently don’t care about), or because you somehow convinced the technician to fudge the numbers of a medical test? If it’s the latter then wow, that’s a lot of charisma…
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 months ago
On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
We have the best deliveries. Because of jail.
Chickenslippers@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This is on a different similar note. I work for a big hardware store that isnt home depot. My job trusts me enough to take home keys to the store, and drive a 10 thousand pound forklift whenever I want, but I have to use the worst safety box opener I’ve ever seen. Makes me so mad because it just doesn’t work half the time.
cactopuses@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I think a lot of times this is driven by someone cutting themselves and creating a pile Of paperwork and costing money. Worked for a fast food chain and we had to use a chainmail glove to use a knife for the same reason.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They’ve got a lot more resolve than I do. I’d have walked out long before this point, but had I been told that before going out on my run, I would have literally walked out there and then.
I’ve walked out of jobs for less.
SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
It’s very easy to chest pound when you’re not having to make that same decision under the same circumstance in the moment - we don’t know what this guy‘s work prospects are or other factors that may have contributed to why he worked there as long as he did.
Maybe it wasn’t your intention, but your comment does seem to have some judgment behind it and I don’t think that’s right.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maybe unpopular but I feel that it’s encompassed in “resolve”. It doesn’t get easier because you have no choice. Personally I didn’t see any judgement but maybe that’s just me.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
yeah no see the difference between you and the guy who worked this job, possibly the previous commenter and me is that i would’ve probably just starved to death at this point.
If these are the options, you clearly don’t want people living here, i’ll take my leave then. As an individual with free will, this is one of the options granted, why not take it up.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’d have walked out long before this point
If the driver put up with everything until this point, then they probabbly didn’t have a lot of better options. It’s easy enough to say stuff like this, but not everyone has the freedom to quit when unemployment means your family goes back to the foodbank or moves into the car.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s not necessarily a lack of options, it’s also about the inertia of having the job and getting over the hump of deciding to look elsewhere. You know you can get another job, but doing that is work, so you have to decide if the BS of the current job is enough to warrant the effort of finding a new place.
srecko@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s 1964, you read this in a short story. You think its funny impossible distopia.
CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Phillip K Dick would be out of a job in 2024.
RedBauble@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Was it in “Ubik” that people had to pay a fee every time they wanted to use their domestic appliances or even open the door to their own house?
Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
20 years left to go…
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Oh no, the camera lens broke! Oh well 🤷♂️
Bertz@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
No, the solution is to throw all that machine vision micro-managing shit away. It belongs in the factory sorting goods.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Well, yeah, but I’m not here to do an RCA - I’m just calling out the fact that they’re treating the symptom, but it’s the wrong symptom that’s being treated.
memfree@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Exactly! In fact ENCOURAGE singing to get a better data set for fixing the software!
nnullzz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This is absolutely terrible and definitely feels like an invasion of, idk, being a human?! But with that said, even though people find out stuff like this happens to drivers and workers, they still enable it by ordering from Amazon because of convenience.
Until we can pull away on our reliance on these services, the companies are just gonna keep crossing more and more lines because they know they’re getting away with it with their customers.
TheSambassador@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Until we can make crossing those lines painful for those companies, they’ll keep doing it. Unfortunately, I think convenience is always going to beat morality if you leave it to “voting with your dollar”, we need actual regulations from our governments to combat this shit.
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, we should totally stop eating to show the grocery stores they can’t control their employees. /s
WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s just that most people just genuinely don’t care enough about what’s happening to other people enough to do anything beyond just saying that Amazon is bad. On top of that as Amazon starts to drive other stores out of business it does start to slowly become the only choice for getting certain things. So with those two combined expecting personal consumer choice to really make a difference is not realistic, this is the kind of thing that needs the government to intervene on to force Amazon to unionize and to potentially break it up like is being discussed with Google.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If you want a robot then hire a robot!
We’re trying. We aren’t quite there yet. Just keep suffering for a feeew more years, then you won’t have to worry about our micromanaging.
zephorah@lemm.ee 3 months ago
You’re driving with a camera fine tuned on your face for the entire trip, set to trigger to your bosses when your face moves.
Not creepy at all.
DABDA@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It might open an unwanted can of worms but maybe the drivers could claim they aren’t signing along to the radio but are vocalizing actions like Japanese train operators to ensure focus and safety.
NutWrench@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Soon to be followed by getting a write-up for breaking down crying in your vehicle due to stress and shitty wages.
orl0pl@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s good that Amazon is not dominant in Poland.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Can’t restricting mouth movements be seen as a restriction on speech and people’s right to talk about and form a union?
Rooskie91@discuss.online 3 months ago
Why spend all the money union busting then do shit like this. Won’t this just starts another round of unionization?
EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I know it’s not the point, but what happens if you wear a mask? Either a cloth mask, or a Michael Myers mask. They’ll probably think “wow, this guy isn’t distracted at all! employee of the month!”
Nommer@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I have a drive cam for work that dies something similar. While they don’t ding us for singing, they will for everything else like us scratching our ear because it thinks there’s an earpiece and we can’t have any electronic devices including GPS. But the camera screaming “FOLLOWING DISTANCE” every time we get cut off or a car 3 semi truck lengths away in 25 taps their brakes and forcing us to slam the brakes so we don’t get written up is perfectly safe.
Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Welcome to the new norm, within 10 years every worker will be on camera full shift.
But we’re too busy stopping literal fascism and nearly every GOP-packed court will uphold it as perfectly fine and normal for everyone making less than 150k a year.
GR_Pete@midwest.social 3 months ago
We were so preoccupied with whether capitalism would replace us with robots, we didn’t stop to think if it would turn us into robots.
Damage@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
Yeah singing is terrible for driving… It’s much better to be bored to sleep
bamfic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Wear a mask
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 months ago
But the singing is how I distract myself from not having a pee break for 12 hours and my old soda bottle is almost full so I can’t afford to take another piss
jdadam@lemm.ee 3 months ago
“You really think you can tell me what I can do with my body?”
REPUBLICAN PARTY has entered the chat…
omarfw@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I pray for the downfall of Amazon.
samus12345@lemmy.world 3 months ago
wears a face mask
1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 3 months ago
I wonder if anyone has ever calculated how much a driver makes per delivery. Like if I buy a pizza, the delivery guy gets like $3 from wages if they make minimum wage and then whatever I tip. I’d be shocked if an amazon driver makes even a dollar per delivery, and some (majority?) of the deliveries are much more expensive than one pizza
TAG@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The National Labor Relations Board recently ruled that Amazon was illegally blocking delivery workers from unionizing. arstechnica.com/…/labor-board-confirms-amazon-dri…
_sideffect@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“What? No I wasn’t singing, I just kept saying “FUCK YOU BEZOS” during my trips”
capital@lemmy.world 3 months ago
lol “our detection system can’t tell the difference between you talking on the phone and you singing so we need you to keep the data clean by not singing”
Fuuuuck you.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Amazon: “We encourage expediency in delivery, so please don’t stop to use the restroom. Just piss in this bottle.”
Also Amazon: “We need you to arrive promptly, but also we expect you to work late. The needs of the customers come first!”
Finally, Amazon: “You’re tired, you’re hungry, you desperately need to piss, but we’ve decided the biggest risk to your driving safety is your dramatic rendition of Shake It Off by Taylor Swift, as you try to get your mind off the horror of working this dead end job.”
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
also stop pissing in bottles, thats weird and disgusting, and no we wont give you more time.
NutWrench@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
“Also, do you really NEED to sleep?”
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Human conform to our half thought, low bid robot Overseer.
kungen@feddit.nu 3 months ago
Amazon’s solution: install another microphone in the car so they can hear that you’re singing instead of having a conversation!!
whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I love that the solution to their shit detection is to make sure that there is nothing to detect.