Swap beans for meat? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
Ah, Beans
Submitted 2 weeks ago by usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml to [deleted]
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winkly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
“for” usually means the first thing is replacing the second. If it said “with” than it’d go the other way
bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The title is still wrong. The stackexchange post is about the verbs to replace and to exchange not to swap.
rf_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Out of curiosity what’s your native language?
rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Mine is English and I generally find myself to be quite knowledgeable about most grammar but this is not one I was familiar with. I even asked other English speakers I live with and they didn’t hear about this rule either. It seems quite outdated at least where I live in terms of common usage
justsomeguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
YES BEAN BROTHER, WE FART SUPREME
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Eat more nutritional yeast. It’s yummy and savory. Really good on popcorn or mixed with olive oil and spread on toast.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Nutritional yeast is amazing and has a horrible name. Like monosodium glutemate.
Oppopity@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The furry site?
bradbeattie@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Purée garlic, nutritional yeast, and olive oil. Put that on pizza.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Love kombucha, kimchee, yogurt, beer, soy sauce, sauerkraut, bread… can’t stand nutritional yeast. It goes straight to my sinuses and stings them.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thank you for the reminder. I’ve been wanting to try it on popcorn for ages
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Even better use nooch with your beans!
nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Don’t make fun of vegetarians. They are human beans.
chrizzly@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Makes me think of ‘E pluribus anus’ for some reason…
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wouldnt a person be swapping meat for beans, though?
Beans. Beans. Beans. Beans.
Memey beans.
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
“swap beans for meat” is a valid way to say “beans instead of meat”
marmotini_enjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Unless you’re in a restaurant, where they live in opposite land for some reason
toxicbubble@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
as a linguistics graduate, that doesn’t make sense
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Please stop posting this as an authority saying it’s valid. It’s an internet discussion with a robust debate about whether it’s valid or ambiguous, which means it’s ambiguous.
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Whats this from
gigaqps@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Installation guide for Netbeans
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
A dumb YouTube prank video. Its only real value is this gif.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honey I Lost the Beans
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I might be contributing to both sides of this
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Such a hypocrit smh
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Murse@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Is there some kind of food that’s basically tofu but made from beans other than soy? I’ve had em whole and mashed up into a past, but iirc soy beans are the only one’s I’ve had as their own cohesive block,
The texture of tofu is a turn off for a lot of people, but what if you make tofu from like kidney beans or something? A product that’s firmer and chewier (and probably not called ___ tofu, cuz people are idiots) could potentially be a hit.
bradbeattie@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6QDlGTnYxpEQRrBz7…. The series is called Will It Tofu.
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
37 videos
I appreciate the commitment to the bit
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
So, it is possible to make tofu from a lot of different legumes. Some work better than others. Some just don’t do the reaction needed to get it to come together.
Then there are some “tofu” that don’t work on the same mechanisms notably Shan tofu, which relies more on the starch to make a cohesive mass rather than the proteins binding.
There is also seitan, but this is made of wheat, and has a chicken like texture. Basically made by washing out everything but the protein structure wheat flour forms when kneaded.
recursivethinking@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I saw a thing for making Red Lentil Tofu. I doubt it’s the same texture, but you’re essentially making a block of it and it slices. You can probably accomplish the same with mashed beans.
taiyang@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can’t think of any that mimic the process of tofu, given it requires coagulation. The closest is cheese, specifically paneer. Maybe imitations, like with gelatin, but not in the same way as tofu.
So why not? I’m not sure, as you can make a paste from chickpeas (hummus), beans, or lentils. But you kind of need to make a milk out of it, coagulate that liquid, mold and press the mixture. Do those mixtures create milky liquid if cooked? Do they react to chemicals to coagulate into a curd?
Given I never see bean or lentil milk, I think that’s the bottleneck. Nor almond or oat milk tofu, although I bet that’s a safer bet. I think soy just fulfills certain requirements and it’s kind of genius that people even figured out how to make tofu in the first place!
Murse@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I fuckin love paneer! I literally have some on the smoker as we speak (bite sized blocks of paneer + pretty much any sauce you’re in the mood for + lowish temp smoke for 90 minutes or so = insanely delicious).
Today’s sauce is a sesame based marinade I found in our local Asian market - was a really good dipper for meats and veggies, so I have high hopes for this batch of paneer!
FrChazzz@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
It’s basically applying the cheese making process to soy milk, yeah? So I’m thinking that, theoretically, you could attempt the same with like almond milk or something. Peanuts and soy seem to have a similar texture, I wonder if you could make like peanut milk and then turn that into a tofu like thing?
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Oh and to add to my other comment, there’s good reason why soy is the legume of choice, it has a very unique taste, texture, and nutritional profile compared to other legumes. If you can find some pre-cooked canned beans, having a meal with the beans themselves makes their properties very apparent. The texture is completely different to what you would expect from a bean.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
As already mentioned, the Will it Tofu series is great. There’s another kind of tofu, sometimes known as Burmese tofu, which is basically the whole cooked beans mashed and chilled in a try to form up. The texture is very different since it’s literally just the whole bean.
Also need to mention soy curls. Those are also a whole bean product, with a similar texture to tvp products - makes an amazing alternative to things like chicken strips and pulled-meat products, and unlike tofu, soy curls are great flavor sponges.
Then there’s the whole world of gluten-based products, mainly known as seitan. In stores you can sometimes find plant-based sandwich slices that are overpriced. If you make it at home, you’ll be amazed at the crazy amount of super high protein food you can turn two cups of vital wheat gluten into. I like to blend a block of tofu in with mine, and usually end up with a big log that comes out to about 270 grams of protein in total.
Then if you’re not averse to synthetically augmented products, methylcellulose is the key ingredient that gives products like Beyond and Impossible their characteristic chew.
And I’m sure there’s a lot I’m missing. Plant-based proteins are more of an iceberg than most people realize.
toxicbubble@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you can make your own from any bean, nut, or legume
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I think I’ve seen, will it tofu, videos on YouTube. But I have made tempeh from beans other than soy, black bean was better than chickpea, but both good.
pseudo@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
I always wondered how tempeh is made. I know it is fermented but somehow I manage not to find any article or video properly describing the making process.
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
There are things that are in a tofu like shape. I’ve bought pre-made Chickpea Tofu at the store before though it has a very different texture and taste than soy based tofu. I’ve also heard of Pumfu (Pumpkin Seed Tofu) as a thing you can buy. Looking it up there’s a ton more that I hadn’t heard of like fava bean, split yellow pea, split green pea, pigeon tofu, red lentil, sunflower seed, and more though I’d assume those you’d probably have to make it yourself instead of being able to buy?
Broadfern@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Burritos, refried beans, vegan burgers, hummus (yes I’m counting chickpeas as beans), chili 🤤
Beans are awesome, as are nuts (can’t have those myself unfortunately) and seeds
Murse@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
as are nuts (can’t have those myself unfortunately)
Unsolicited story time!
I made a few batches of baklava for my coworkers a while back, with various fillings. Most recipes call for dates or some kind of nut, so I was just like ‘fuck it, we’re trying them all’.
One of those coworkers had a nut allergy, so I make a batch that used sunflower seeds instead (no recipe for that, just sub the nuts 1-1) and honestly is was one of the best of the 10 or so different types I made. Baklava is something a lot of people with nut allergies have never tried cuz it’s always got some kind of nut in it. - if you’re one of those, definitely give it a whirl some times (and do NOT use one of the recipes that go through making your own filo dough… that stuff is… involved. You can get premade rolls in most grocery stores - look near things like those refrigerated tubes of cookie dough, or in the frozen section).
I’m sure sunflower seeds as a nut substitute is nothing new, but baklava specifically might be something that wasn’t previously on your radar. (if that’s the case, and you do go for, shoot me a message to let me know how it went /^_/^)
That coworker was fucking stoked - when people bring in food for the group they don’t usually put much thought into things like allergies or religious accommodations, but hooking those folks up with some noms when they’re expecting to be left out is a great way to make their day.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Fake meat burgers suck, black bean burgers are clearly superior.
Broadfern@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Both are good. Beyond brand is the more allergy friendly one, that I eat and I like the pea-mung bean combo for texture but it still tastes somewhat vegan which is nice for me but I understand others may not like. A solid black bean patty from Aldi goes pretty hard though.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
counting chickpeas as beans
Wait, then what’s the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Nobody’s paying to see a garbanzo
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’ve never paid $300 to have a garbanzo bean on me
Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
😏
jambudz@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I can’t have beans or any legumes or pulses D:
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Tragic on the bean front, but there are some other good plants worth trying
If you can have wheat & gluten, give Seitan a try! Super high protein and kind of meaty taste
Quina, potatoes, chia, hemp, pumpkin seeds, mycoprotein (from mushrooms) are also worth using too! As well as stuff like oatmilk of course too
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the bean > the meat
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
DeepDown@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Don’t worry if we all switch to something woker like Tofu, we just might avoid this fate
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Tofu is for conservatoves. True hipsters eat seitan
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Beans are awesome
X@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
𝙼𝙾𝚃𝙷𝙴𝚁𝙵𝚄𝙲𝙺𝙸𝙽’ 𝙱𝙴𝙰𝙽𝚂, 𝚈’𝙰𝙻𝙻
bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People continue to be amazed by everyone sliding into poverty.
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
There are environmental and ethical reasons to do this. Not just cost
Schemen110676@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Would love to eat more beans but the result for me is always quite…farty
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My seven bean chilli is always popular at parties.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
You could use a lot more beans than seven. Id start with a whole can.
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol I did phrase that poorly, I mean 7 different types =P
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In this economy?!
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I don’t think your cans are supposed to have holes in them
pseudo@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
May I ask witch ones? I can name more than seven beans, but many would be to close in taste and texture to be worthy of being mixed-in together.
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So I keep it pretty easy; Great northern, Cannellini, Red, Black, Navy, Kidney, Pinto, --sometimes Black-eyed, and if you can get some Adzuki–which are my favorite. I fry some of the beans with garlic prior to throwing them in the slow cooker. Adzuki beans are great, you can blend some to use as a thickener. Another bean you can use is natto, which isn’t for everyone, but it’s hard to tell it’s there once it’s slow cooked, it also thickens the chilli but don’t go overboard.
Also using Mirin, cooking wine, and miso are a staple for me. Sometimes I’ll add in a bit of Marmite. Depending on if you want to keep it vegetarian, I have fried up some tempeh and people think it’s bacon lol. But good tempeh is hard to get where I live.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Aren’t beans better for you, so this sounds like an improvement.
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Beware the tiddy beans
ZeroCool@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bean there, done that
Maultasche@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
CluelessCalls@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For real though, beans of all kinds are nutrient dense
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Hannibal Lecter started the old bean ball rolling. The meat industry pushed us to the beans just like their own products in a cattle chute.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t discriminate.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
We all have to keep on guard for bean memes. Thank you for the warning bean meme.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Way ahead, making a big pot of beans every week now. Currently alternating between black and pinto.
CheesyFingers@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Meat for beans*
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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Klear@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Well…
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He is rather large and they provide substantial nutritional benefits.
gigaqps@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
He saw beans… lots of beans lots of beans lots of beans, yeah, beans… lots of beans lots of beans lots of beans yeah yeah!
decolo@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I had a friend named Trevor when this got big. Just saying something was ‘magical’ in his presence was enough to get him to crash out