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  • BunScientist@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    From what I know, it has to do with the word red covering the purple part of the spectrum long ago, and the “need” for the word purple came out later but purple things that were named red didn’t get renamed.

    You can look at japanese right now and 青い covers both blue and green, with a relatively recent addition of 緑 to cover only green (thus possibly pushing 青い in the future to be only blue, who knows)

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    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Similarly, the red fox is clearly orange, but English speakers were exposed to that species of fox before developing a word for that specific color. For bonus linguistical oddities, ‘orange’ was used for the fruit before it was used for the color.

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      • JamieDub86@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Or the red squirrel, which is brown.

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      • metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And the fruit’s name is different from other countries’ names for it because “a naranj” was misheard as “an orange” and it stuck. Yellow-red wasn’t much adopted, though it did exist. Such is language, what a fun collective hallucination.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, the word for greenery/foliage, 青葉, translates to “blue leaves”

      Also the green traffic light is called blue

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    • JamieDub86@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well whys it called Shepherds Pie when it doesnt contain shepherds, or Cottage Pie when its nothing to do with cottages or cottagimg? How about that one…checkmate!!!

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      • alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And baby powder is never powdered babies!

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      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        In Hungary, we have a dessert called madártej, or bird milk. It’s made out of cow milk.

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    • Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I already knew this about colors (it’s also why “redheads” have orange hair) but I recently dug more into how the musical spectrum and how tones are defined is very similar in it’s cultural variance. Another thing is how the cardinal directions are divided radially and how time is counted. Shit counting bases even, most of the imperial measurements are based on either base 12 or base 16 math.

      Wild to think that something you grew up with as a fundamental fact of the world might actually be super culturally subjective.

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    • Vorticity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The Japanese part of this is evidenced by the fact that some traffic lights are blue rather than green. As far as I know, they are standardizing everything to green now to avoid any confusion, but some older lights are still blue because the words were the same for blue and green.

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    • 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Obligatory: youtu.be/gMqZR3pqMjg

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      For bonus points, terms for colors are developed differently but similarly in different languages: see e.g. ‘Color term’.

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  • Doom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because they are only purple on the inside. Do you think apples are white? Or bananas?

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    • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    • lauha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Humans are red so why not?

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      • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Speak for yourself. I’m more mayonnaise colored

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    • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, but you cannot convince me that watermellons are not red.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s a different variety than my local grocers. Stores near me, the papery outside it brown the red flesh you see there is dark purple for us.

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  • gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    in hungarian it’s purple onion, you just choose the wrong language :)

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    • webp@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      At least we aren’t hungary all the time

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      • gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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        also, take my upvote

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    • protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      in portuguese too

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  • RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    why do we call green grapes white

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    • zikzak025@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Or purple grapes red?

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Grapes don’t make wine, silly. They’re inert.

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Table grapes have learned from the chameleon.

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      • anewfox@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        when i say “red grapes,” i’m always referring to the ones that are actually red because they have the most satisfying snap when you eat them.

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    • hanke@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Who calls green grapes white…?

      Never heard that happen

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      • zikzak025@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Might be different in other languages, but English usually divides grapes into red and white for color.

        But I guess another question is why they call it white wine when it’s more yellow.

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      • anewfox@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        two examples: white wine, white grape juice. both are very common.

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      • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Never heard about green grapes. Here in Germany they are called “white grapes” and EN-Wikipedia is also calling them that in english. We are also talking it “white wine” and so on.

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  • Tiral@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So, this is kinda weird, but general colors didn’t have names for a long time. Like in Greek texts by Homer he describes the water color as dark wine color because the name “blue” wasn’t a word. So it’s possible when they named a “red onion” purple wasn’t a color and considered a shade of red.

    Also as others have said purple was the color of royalty and they didn’t want an association.

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    • FrChazzz@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s kind of wild when you learn that words for blue are relatively new in human language.

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      • Seleni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        In Japanese it’s the reverse; ‘blue’ is used for blue and green; designating green as the different color is relatively recent for them

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      • koella@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I started thinking that it kind of makes sense as blue is not a common naturally occurring color and then I remembered the sky.

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Cant have pesants eating royal onion now can we?

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  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because the dry outer skin is a rich red colour

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    • Mountainaire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      … No? It’s still typically a shade of purple…

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  • poipoiuleon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In Spanish we actually call them “cebolla morada” that means purple onion :D

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    • undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m bilingual and I always forget which language calls it which, so I get confused looks from everyone.

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      • poipoiuleon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        JAJAJJAJAJAJJA yep it has happened to me

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  • Danarchy@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It refers to the communism of the onions

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    • MrChewy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Like ogres?

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      • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        We’re all pink on the inside

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  • fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    We call them purple in Spanish… English has brain damage as per usual.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s weird, I would have thought you’d call them morado in Spanish.

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      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        According to someone up thread, it’s morada, so I’m guessing onions are female in Spanish?

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  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What really gets me is that the compounds responsible for this hue in food are called “anthocyanins” which means “blue flower.” I can’t even.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It wanted to be associated with the proletariat not the ruling class.

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s a joke in Bulgarian somewhat related to that. What’s commonly referred to as a prune plum we call something that roughly translates to “blue plum”. The joke goes something like this:

    – Dad, what’s this?

    – It’s a blue plum.

    – Why is it red?

    – Because it’s green.

    Language is weird, but it’s ironic that our use of it makes it so.

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  • atx_aquarian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Jess and Rob on Words Unraveled talk about color word origins, and their discussion is illuminating about the cultural variance in perception of color. Now I am at peace with all the seemingly weird color names for things.

    For a quicker tour, Vox talks about the order that languages fill in color words as cultures begin to refine their distinction.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve always hated the “blue, indigo, violet” end of the English words for the rainbow. I only recently found out that the 7 colours of the rainbow in English is especially BS.

      At the beginning of Newton’s time, there were thought to be 5 colours in the rainbow: red, yellow, green, blue and violet. Newton added Orange and Indigo because he thought (for spiritual reasons) there should be 7 colours. There were 7 days of the week, 7 planets (known at that time), 7 notes in the (western) musical scale, etc.

      But, Newton’s blue isn’t our blue today. For newton, the colour “blue” is what we currently call “cyan”, so the 7 colours of the rainbow were really red, orange, yellow, green, cyan (blue), blue (indigo) and violet. That makes a lot more sense.

      But, there really could be arbitrarily many colours in the rainbow. We could have “rust” as a colour, in between red and orange, or “gold” in between orange and yellow. We could even have a spectrum that didn’t include “green” but included “lime” which is between today’s yellow and green, and cyan on the other side, and no “green” at all.

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  • Gates9@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    McCarthyism

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What does that make yellow onions?

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      • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I could tell you, but then I would sound racist

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If you hold a yellow onion and a white onion side by side, it’s actually yellow(ish)

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m crying

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  • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I spent way too much time sitting in the backseat looking out the window on long family drives wondering why the fuck they kept referring to the orange cheddar cheese as “yellow” cheese. Still kind of annoys me today after decades of getting older and settling down a bit.

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    • Seleni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because ‘orange’ was covered by the word ‘yellow’ until that pesky fruit made it to England and became fashionable.

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  • Speiser0@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The inside is purple, but the outside is red, especially if it’s dry.

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  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Same reason they call the tree a “Redbud tree.”

    Barely literate settlers were colonizing and writing home about the beautiful Puple Prule Purlple Lavendaar Red-Bud Trees.

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  • its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve found the color in a things name usually points to what color dye you can extract from it.

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  • killingspark@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wait till they find out that some cultures didn’t have separate words for green and blue

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  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Calm down… calm down… Perhaps consider putting the onions aside and trying a nice parsnip.

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  • MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because purple isn’t a colour

    It’s the absence of colour your brain cannot interpret so it makes a purple.

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    • Ironrod@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I doubt whoever named it knew that though

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  • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Purple is just an up jump red aimed at royalty

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  • weps@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    An orange is about the only thing correctly named

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    • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Blueberry 🫐

      Am I a fucking joke to you?

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      • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They’re pretty purple a lot of the time tho

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  • shweddy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Nobody tell them about red cabbage

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  • evolatic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but it’s a cool read nonetheless.

    popularmechanics.com/…/purple-is-fake-research/

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because calling them blue onions would be weird.

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    • brownsugga@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      isn’t that what they call them in germany

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      • MLM@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No. We call them red too

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  • gens@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I AM AN ADULT!

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    • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sorry to hear, me too… lets do taxes

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  • Hikermick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yet purple finches clearly are red

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    We’re not white on the Inside, so why should a red onion have to be red all the way through

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