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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sanitation@lemmy.today⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just one reason their stock price is down. They no longer report subscriber numbers — you can probably guess why. It’s strange to me that a public company can just hide data from investors that might reveal when a company isn’t doing so hot.

    fool.com/…/with-netflix-down-45-from-its-highs-vi…

    businessinsider.com/netflix-engagement-data-earni…

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    • Switorik@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I will never understand investors. Anyone with half a brain can put two and two together when a company starts hiding anything. Investors have no idea what they’re doing, they just trust the customer will make them money, get angry when they’ve been duped, and will do it again.

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      • huppakee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not all investors are in it for the long run. Some just expect a short boost or go short betting on a loss.

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      • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In this case, the ads are probably bringing in less per viewer than the service costs, so having non-paying viewers is still a net negative.

        Clamping down on this is probably a worse negative in the long run, but investors only care about this quarter.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the biggest reason is, them cancelling too many shows too soon.

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      • ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One of the reasons I stopped watching Netflix shows was because all the ones I got invested those were cancelled just after one season.

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    • dan1101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stranger Things finally ended and the price for no ads went over $20 per month. That’s what made me finally quit.

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    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They aren’t stopping reporting subscriber numbers, what are you talking about? They’re dropping from reporting it twice a year to just once a year. Annual growth is really all that matters after all. What matters far more is revenue, product, and cash flow - all of which are still reported regularly.

      Stock prices falling after earnings calls is basically the norm because no matter how well they go, even beating expectations, some people wanted more - and you can’t ignore the market manipulation by big players who try to manufacture drops so they can increase their position. Spook people to sell and drop the price so they can buy more at a reduced price.

      Netflix need or exceeded their targets as they have basically every single time for years. Their revenue grew double digits, their margins are getting healthier, and their viewing hours increased.

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    • Hazzard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not sure if you’re being rhetorical, but I’ll answer anyways. The reason Reddit wants you to log in is to better track you, no duh. The reason that makes them more money is because better data means better ad targeting, and better ad targeting can be translated to results like a better click through rate. When a platform has that, they can incentivize more advertisers to spend more money on their platform.

      That way, each time they sell an ad, that ad can be more expensive. It’s undeniable that demanding logins will be bad for the number of ads they sell, but if they can sell higher quality ads, they’ll make more money at the end of the day.

      This whole thing is the core driver behind privacy being eroded at scale, because ad targeting has proven effective, and so advertisers want to advertise on the platform with the best targeting. So everyone wants to spy on their users the best and build the best targeting.

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      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s also easier to control scraping by requiring an account.

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  • sudo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To be fair, too many people are using your account. 0 people should be on it.

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    • gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      my thought exactly:)) 1 is already 1 too many

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    • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That would be the ideal for Netflix. Everyone subscribes and pays, but no one uses it.

      Gee, maybe that’s why it’s so hard to find anything good to watch on Netflix now.

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      • alternategait@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If it works for gyms …

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  • Bahnd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sing with me lads

    Ohhhhhhhh🎵

    Do what you want cuz a pirate is free 🏴‍☠️

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    • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • normanwall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

      🎵You are a pirate!🎵

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    • Cherry@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Arrr me mateys year media media is freeeeee

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    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ironically, I’ve been finding myself using Netflix again after years (stayed subscribed for the wife and MIL) to watch One Piece, a show about pirates, since I can access it at work and also because they skip both the intro and recap unlike Plex which only skips the intro.

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    • starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People who live in Germany: don’t. You’ll get caught.

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      • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If youre stupid enough to use torrent without a VPN maybe.

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      • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or just learn to VPN

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yar-har and fiddle-dee-dee!

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  • kaotic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who remembers netflix’s “Love is sharing a password.” tweet?

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    • cosmos8188@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Love is sharing good torrent trackers.

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      • kaotic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or usenet indexer.

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      • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Can you love me an invite? :)

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  • FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly this. I had Netflix for a while and didn’t pirate for like, 5 years. Then they started cranking up the price, dramatically reducing available movies including old movies that I wanna rewatch, and telling me my family is not allowed to use the product I purchased. So fI just stopped and went back to the high seas with a renewed passion for making my own media library as extensive as possible, and giving access to friends, family, anyone remotely trustworthy.

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  • chode_tode@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ya’ll are still paying for this shit? LOL.

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    • Polisheocket@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I pay for Netflix and share with my sister in laws family and they pay for Hulu and Disney plus. Good trade off imo

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        None of that is a good trade off when you’re giving money to those shit companies.

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      • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Stremio + torrentio addon and Alldebrid. Just 3 bucks a month.

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  • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I cancelled my Netflix several years ago literally the very first time I got an error that too many people were watching or a screen wasn’t authorized or whatever the specific “you can’t share your account anymore” error was at the time.

    The fact that account sharing was tacitly allowed was literally the only thing keeping the value proposition of having the account afloat.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fact Netflix used to actually use sharing accounts as PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL is wild to me. They leaned healily into it.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same here. I barely used Netflix and was only paying the bill because I shared the password with family members and didn’t want to cut them off.

      Once they started being weird about account sharing, there was no reason to keep paying the bill. I was on the top tier too, because they said you could play on 4 screens at once, and I figured it was fair to pay extra since I was sharing the account.

      Nobody in my family complained so it’s likely they weren’t really using it either. So instead of a top-tier account being shared among a bunch of people that didn’t really use it, they get nothing.

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      • colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sadly their profits increased because overall after they cracked down on password sharing www.bbc.com/news/business-68850766

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Jellyfin doesn’t have this problem

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    • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dude, Jellyfin and Tailscale is amazing.

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    • akilou@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not if everyone is on your network. Otherwise it does have some problems

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      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which problems? The only one I know of requires the attacker to know the exact media path on the local server, even if they figure that out all they gain is the ability to view that file.

        Seriously though, if there is a bigger vulnerability out there, I’d love to know about it (the only one I found would allow unauthorized viewing).

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  • FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • jpreston2005@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Been a Netflix subscriber since the early days. Talking getting DVDs in the mail, 3 at a time, watching all sorts of crazy shit, back when they let you have a profile where you could personally 5-star rate and even leave a review for movies you’d watched. Me and a friend got competitive about it, would watch movies all the time, rate and review them, we easily had lists into the 800-1000 range.

    Then they deleted all of it with no warning.

    But I kept with it, because although I pirate a lot, I still like the convenience of not having to download all the stuff on there, and there’s still some decent releases. And I share my account with my ex-wife, so she doesn’t have to pay for it. And then when I’m on vacation, usually there’s a smart TV or whatever and I can log on to keep watching whatever series I happen to be on at the moment (right now it’s Stargate SG1).

    But the other day I got a warning about how I’m using a different device, and I had to double authenticate and reenter passwords to “allow” me to watch from my personal computer… and it made my blood boil. Shut the FUCK UP netflix, you dumb mother fucker. I’ll watch the service I fucking PAY FOR, on my OWN FUCKING DEVICE, WHENEVER I FUCKING WANT TO.

    One more blood boiling moment and I’ll just cancel their bullshit all together. I have a gig internet connection, I can just download shit crazy fast, I don’t fucking need you anymore netflix. you forget that the slight convenience of not downloading things is the ONLY reason you exist. Stop being convenient, stop being used.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      sad, AMAZON cancelled the new series for stargate.

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  • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Plex. Jellyfin is fine too, I am just used to Plex and prefer it’s interface. I don’t mind paying a few dollars per month for it.

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    • neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is coming from a person with a Plex lifetime pass for the last 15 years. Fuck Plex and their greed.

      I was on the same boat as you, but this year I switched to Jellyfin and could not be happier. It actually feels smoother for me than Plex. Also there are a pot of little quality of life improvements which did not work on Plex for me, like always auto loadng subtitles in my language of choice.

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      • dai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Plex is good for those in our circles who only know of VPNs from ads on YouTube.

        Jellyfin is great and all but not something you can just expose to the internet and hope for the best.

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      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Same here, I’ve had a lifetime pass for a bit over a decade but now I just keep it for coworkers and some family members. Jellyfin just runs better 99% of the time.

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      • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Plex will also auto select subtitles for your language of you set it up, and jellyfin currently can desync subtitles if you skip forward enough.

        I don’t really have a preference between the two, but jellyfin still feels rough around the edges in places.

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    • MBech@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve switched to Emby. It’s a lot easier to set up than Jellyfin, and has an okay interface. Not the greatest, but whatever.

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  • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Their content has quickly become shit tier. Every new show seems like an attempt to check as many boxes as their hits from over five years ago. Spreadsheet programming. That or low budget docuseries.

    But that’s programming everywhere now. Who woulda thought that consolidating the entire entertainment industry into three players would have negative consequences.

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Buckle up my man. Remember how shit programming got during, and then following, the writers guild strike? How many shows just…could not recover?

      Imagine if the writers were to strike again. They’d be replaced with AI scabs in a heartbeat.

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      • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They haven’t already?

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  • interesting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You do not subscribe ,you should use pirate and do not feed these imperialist oligarchs

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    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re feeling generous, sign up for the cheapest plan and then pirate everything.

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      • interesting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Someone already did and is doing :) 😀

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    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The main reason I keep subs for any of it is because we have a Roku TV in the living room and anything more complicated than just pushing the Netflix button is more than my wife is willing to deal with. She already doesn’t like the Google TV box with the same apps on the other TV because she thinks it’s too complicated, but she puts up with it “because you like it”. If I had a way to install Stremio on the Roku, I could probably slowly convince her over to it, but that depends on how often her occasionally obscure TV preferences are already cached by RD.

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Plex is just as simple as Netflix, you just have to do the heavy load and setup a server and download them. Not hard, just a little extra work.

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      • Thorned_Rose@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My elder parent was able to work Stremio + debrid just fine after we set it up.

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  • sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To the high seas, me hearties!!

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  • kreel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cancelled last week when I realized that I watch it almost never, the content I did consume was essentially filler, and the price was double what I originally subscribed for. I haven’t picked anything else to replace it yet but I think it’s finally reached the point that they are worse than the competition by a significant enough margin to matter. They really burned a lot of innate advantages. Thank you Mr. Doctorow for the correct terminology to address the situation!

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    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I cancelled for similar reasons years ago. My wife noticed immediately and reinstated the account under her credit card. I guess she likes their brainrot.

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    • Stegget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m so old I remember when Netflix streaming was only $7/month. And you had to use an Xbox 360 for it.

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  • RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I pay for a number of concurrent streams, so “too many at one time” is a legitimate thing. What I disagree with completely is that they want them all in one house. If I pay for 4 streams, they ought to be able to be anywhere. Because I paid for 4.

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  • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes, but this is outlined in the contract and you should know this.

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    • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Netflix is still garbage.

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      • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yes, but for max devices using the service they make it very clear.

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  • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think I’ve watched things on like five devices at once on my Jellyfin. Never had this issue.

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    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The stress test I did had 6 transcoding streams going on my Emby server with an Intel Arc A310, without breaking a sweat. It never has more than 3 streams going at a time in normal usage though so I stopped testing at 6.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      same on plex

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Emby: “17 people in 5 countries are watching your media. Nice.”

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is me when they finally take down piracy and I just can’t get the media anymore, since I refuse to give them a cent. I know I’ll adapt, and probably be better off for it.

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  • jaemo@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Netflix is American. So yeah: Garbage IS Garbage.

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  • chefdano3@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And people always are confused when I tell them I don’t watch shows and movies anymore.

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  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I continue to be glad I’ve not paid for a streaming service, cable, satellite, or any other tv/media service in the entirety of my life.

    My mother stopped paying for satellite tv in like 2014ish, my sister stopped paying for Netflix in 2019, and I’ve provided an Emby server with an Ombi and arr stack based requests system to my whole family since 2017.

    Those services have done more than enough to prove they don’t deserve my money.

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  • vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    rentry.co/megathread

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the main reasons are: cancelling seasons of good shows after 1,2, or 3 seasons, just to boost subscription numbers.

    limiting how much people can watch it on different devices, and increasing prices, with decreasing quality.

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  • liking625@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    After more than a decade with them, with the little use we hadand they just kept increasing prices every year, so I decided to give them the flick, and we are not missing it.

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  • Angular@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I fucking hate Netflix!

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sail the high seas, then.

    Especially if it’s a great TV show or a movie and you really want to keep it.

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  • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Didn’t they announce they were going to enforce this years ago? That’s around the time I stopped giving them money

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