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  • Batman@lemmy.world ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I do get that this is the real differentiator to businesses in a chat app. how much it spies on employees. we need to unionize yesterday in tech

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  • bloooooort@sh.itjust.works ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Why does it matter?

    • a solo freelancer
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  • m3t00@lemmy.world ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    have your free bot fix it while you get stuff done. i’d just make mine yellow all the time. wut is teams?

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  • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I used bots for games 20 years ago, I mean it should be easy to trick mouse movement…

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  • da9l@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m going to give you a mega useful tip.

    You need to create a group. You can kick the user later and say it was an accident. Then you start a meet inside of that group. You can be the only one in the call. Change your status from Busy to available again on top. Just leave yourself muted inside of that Teams call. Your Teams will never go inactive and neither will your laptop.

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    • ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I just always have mine set to show away. Management stops noticing when you are yellow in meetings regularly.

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    • bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      If anyone is wondering yes, it can see that you were in a meeting by yourself all day

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    • Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I open notepad and shut the laptop lid halfway on the enter key. Always green, always working.

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    • LePoisson@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hmm, I just open notepad and use a stack of coins or something similar to hold down a key to stay active if I need to.

      It’s stupid we even have to care about our status on teams. Why should anyone give a fuck about your teams status as long as you’re getting to your work done properly and on time?

      Although to be fair right now I’m using a client laptop so my employer basically sees me as offline all the time but I’m reachable by teams or email on my phone.

      Anyways it’s just dumb. Fun trick though, I didn’t know you could do that.

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      • m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s a tool for Windows called Caffeine that simulates pressing the F15 key, which is almost never used by any software being that most keyboards don’t have function keys that go that high.

        From the webpage:

        If you have problems with your PC locking or going to sleep, caffeine will keep it awake. It works by simulating a keypress once every 59 seconds, so your machine thinks you’re still working at the keyboard, so won’t lock the screen or activate the screensaver.

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    • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is a good tip. I haven’t used it in a while but you can also log into it from web interfaces so i think it was possible to shutdown the desktop app and log into it from other places where it didn’t have the same kind of access.

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  • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’ll go one step further and hope their both sides of their pillow are warm from fresh piss. What a totally asshole decision.

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  • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Super simple to write a script that prevents it.

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  • m3t00@lemmy.world ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    🖇️ can help? same guy

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  • helios@social.ggbox.fr ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image FTTY

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    • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I opened my email and it fucking defaulted to Copilot? Like, bitch I clicked my email. Not your half baked AI bullshit.

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    • green_goglin@thelemmy.club ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      perfection

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  • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wow we are all slaves. :( I type this between my Teams meetings.

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  • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    • physical mouse “jiggler” (mine is a turntable) that isn’t connected to the work device
    • physical key presser on a switch to press ESC every few seconds for when I’m pooping (this way the software shows both m n k activity)

    I’ve even so far as to write a bash script that monitors the userdata folder that stores the JSON to activity and overwrite it with plausible but fake random activity data and screenshots, then name the process the same as the software so it’s virtually undetectable- logs will show “Productivity Software Name” writing to its userdata directory at the same time the actual software is writing to it.

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨24⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      …Have you considered finding a new job, perhaps?

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  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My boss loves sending me messages saying “Are you working today?” within 3 minutes of being idle on teams at any point in the day.

    Other times if i’m idle he’ll call me just to give me some busy work or try and “catch me” not paying attention or something.

    In the office I can be idle on teams for hours at a time and there’s never, ever random spot checks for productivity… and we have no objectives, goals or project management (because he doesn’t think any PM principles are effective.)

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    • Zorg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A bad boss can really make a job suck. If it was me I’d get a mouse wiggler, apparently there’s a surprisingly many physical ‘mouse movers’ out there nowadays.

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        People don’t quit jobs, they quit managers.

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      • nforminvasion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        The saying is true for 95% of jobs. People don’t quit bad jobs, they quit bad bosses.

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      • AbKingPro@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Back when my company was using teams I had a script that would press a button that’s not actually on my keyboard (something like F25) every minute, so my teams was always green and it was not noticeable from my point of view

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      • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My boss bills customers for his on-site visits (technical) wherein he goes on site, plugs in his laptop, and makes me remotely do all his work remotely. I can’t wait to burn this bridge when the time is right.

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      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s a natural divot on my desk that does it for me.

        But I also have my outlook calendar filled with my scheduled hours so my status shows I am always busy (working my schedules hours).

        So hasn’t been a problem and it’s been years.

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    • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That implies he is also sitting around watching Teams instead…being productive.

      And at the end of the day, unless you’re working at a start-up, your business won’t fail because someone wasn’t nickle-and-dime-ing individual workers on their productivity time.

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  • daellat@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It also eats up to 1,5gb of ram sitting idle as a chat program. So yeah it’s not running unless I need it and then it gets to shut down again. Luckily we don’t use it as our primary chat tool.

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I learned from my wife that you can start a meeting by yourself using the Meet Now button on the Teams calendar, and that will keep you flagged as Busy.

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  • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Set up a solo meeting with yourself. During meeting it doesn’t change the status at all, so after you join that solo meeting in the morning set yourself to available and you will be available whole day.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That is a very Microsoft kind of behavior

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    • NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is also the way to put a real meeting your in on hold.

      It makes it look like you got interrupted and had to step away.

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  • red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have Java on my machine. So I wrote a small program that moves the mouse one pixel every minute. Forever green.

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    • devaly@ani.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I went the other route: I set to away until 2030. Now they don’t know if I’m really away or not.

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      • CorrenteAlternata@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You are a fucking master mind! I wonder what other secret knowledge you possess, and I’m serious.

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    • northendtrooper@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      powershell script that toggles the scrolllock key every 3 minutes.

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      • red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Powershell is locked down on our machines via AD policy. I used to run a tool from the Windows Store, but they locked that down too. They didn’t come for the JVM yet.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just use teams-for-linux which has auto-online built-in.

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      • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Auto-online? 😯 I’m very curious: how do you know it has that? It hasn’t been working that great for me, Microsoft won’t always sign it in.

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    • fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That sadly doesn’t work for my workstation, the VDI still locks after 5 mins and I need to 2 factor authenticate again. So I bought a physical mouse Jiggler for 7ish euros and I’m happy again.

      I got roasted by friends calling me lazy because of it, fast forward 3 months and half of them asked me where I bought it. Now most of them have it, including several of my colleagues.

      For the computer it’s an actual mouse since the input is external, so it just works. I’m always green baby ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Much less resource intensive on your dev machine to just use an esp32 and write a program to pretend to be a mouse and wiggle itself. Benefit is it is completely undetectable on every platform as well.

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      • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For me it’d be better to just run the stupid Teams app on my work phone, but that’s always been a hassle because it locks itself and then I don’t always get the notifications. My primary work laptop only has 16 gigs of RAM, and having Teams eagerly gobble up a significant portion of that is highly frustrating.

        There’s been several occasions where I’ve been building or debugging something, RAM being tight, and the OOM killer correctly deduces that Teams has to go. Makes me laugh every time I finally check back on Teams and realise it’s been dead for a while.

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  • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Get a USB mouse jiggler. There are hundreds of them.

    www.amazon.com/…/B09NVH8HVN

    They are undetectable because they are just another USB Mouse.

    These other solutions are so annoying. Yes let me spend the mental energy to wedge keys downs or setup fake meetings every single time I have to take a shit.

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    • RaoulDook@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s important not to plug in a USB device like that into your work PC. IT can likely see what devices are used on any system.

      Instead use a physical mouse mover device that only requires power, like a USB cord plugged into a wall charger instead of the PC.

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      • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Doesn’t it show up as a mouse though ? That is what I see in Windows. I have 2 mice

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just put a weight on the ctrl key when I’m away or fucking around on my phone.

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s always interesting hearing from people that this works, because I could be working solid for 2 hours straight but not actually put my cursor in the Teams application and so it thinks I’m away

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    • Beangut@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ??

      Stack of coins on the arrow key, works wonders.

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  • Telemachus93@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m so glad we use Matrix at work. Our IT department even tells us explicitly not to use Teams if we can avoid it.

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    • eclipse7@feddit.nu ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hire me please xD

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    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Let me guess, you signed an NDA and can’t tell us where.

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      • Telemachus93@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m trying not to dox myself, but it’s a university in Germany. :D

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    • Sineljora@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How is matrix as a discord/teams replacement for work?

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      • Telemachus93@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        It really depends on what you actually need, how much setup the IT department can manage and how well the change is communicated and managed, I guess.

        We use it (i.e. the Element client) mostly for chatting and another open source solution (BigBlueButton) for online meetings, but voice and video calls are possible directly with Element. Matrix lacks the out of the box office product integration for collaborating on presentations, spreadsheets or text files that Teams has. It can be extended via widgets though, which includes at least etherpad and afaik there are options for nextcloud (which has collabora) integration as well, so with a bit of setup, even that could be emulated.

        So that would of course require some setup and maintenance and if the company used Teams before, some training and help for the users as well.

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    • timestatic@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hope I can bring this kind of change to a company at some point. Matrix is the shit

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One of the beautiful things about being able to run Linux at work and use Teams in a browser is that my status is decoupled from what I’m doing on my machine. Obviously if I’m in a meeting or chatting with somebody through Teams my status will reflect that.

    I bet my most productive days have me away/idle for hours on end, lol.

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    • themaninblack@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes. I wrote a script to make me green even though my employer doesn’t give a shit because I want the peace of mind even though I’m in your situation.

      This micromanagement via surveillance is counterproductive any way you slice it. The peace of mind script makes me more valuable to my employer even though it might be inconsequential.

      Bentham’s panopticon.

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  • Limonene@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I was getting marked as “away” in Microsoft Teams every day, even though I was working. I just wasn’t using Microsoft Teams, so it marked me as idle.

    I wrote this Autohotkey script after my boss started complaining. It clicks on Teams every 2 minutes:

    global running := 0

^+1::
{
	global running := 1
	while running == 1
	{
        CoordMode("Mouse", "Screen")
        oldx := 0
        oldy := 0
        MouseGetPos(&oldx, &oldy)
        prev_active := WinActive("A")

        Try
        {
            WinActivate("ahk_class TeamsWebView")
        }
        Catch TargetError as e
        {
        }
        CoordMode("Mouse", "Window")
        Send("{Click 80 40 Left}")

        Try
        {
            WinActivate("ahk_id " prev_active)
        }
        Catch TargetError as e
        {
        }
        CoordMode("Mouse", "Screen")
        MouseMove(oldx, oldy, 0)

        sleep(115000)
	}
}

^+2::
{
	global running := 0
}

    It has the side effect of preventing my computer from entering screensaver/lock screen when I really am away.

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  • toiletobserver@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you join a meeting with yourself only, you can manually set your status to available and it will never go to away.

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    • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I would expect it to say that you’re “in a call”

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      • Prancingpotato@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And you would be correct, that’s why previous comment indicated that you can then manually change your status, which will then make you appear as available. But as you are in a call, teams will no more automatically change your status to idle.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Even better! /j

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I love how inaccurate that status is. No one can depend on it.

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  • BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    1. Open notepad
    2. Place calculator on spacebar all it’s activated
    3. …?
    4. Profit
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  • ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Using team status to know if you are working or not is both rudimentary and unreliable. There are a lot of times the status is just displayed wrong, besides, if stuff is getting done, then that is a sign you are working

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    • sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes! If you are in a work situation where your boss is doing this, find another job. Your performance should be based on outcomes, not butt and n seat time.

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    • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Tools like this also do not work with multiple screens.

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  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I run teams in a PWA on Linux which doesn’t have permission to check if I’m using my computer or not so I’m always listed as away unless I’m interacting with Teams directly. I hate teams so much.

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s so stupid, previously you could keep it permanently “online”

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  • python@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Use a program called Caffeine. It presses F15 every 59 seconds. Nice thing is that F15 is a largely unused button, so it doesn’t interfere in any way when you’re actually doing something on the computer (classic mouse wigglers are very annoying in that regard)

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    • bountygiver@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A proper wiggler should reset the timer every time you actually move your mouse so it never do it while you are using your mouse

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And wiggle not every second too, like 1 pixel every 30 sec. That was the only thing I disliked with the cheap wigglers, they were great otherwise.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not Scroll Lock?

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        that’s used in excel

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m so glad that I don’t know enough about teams to know what most of this means.

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  • Endmaker@ani.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What I did was to set it to “Away” permanently

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  • KarlHungus42@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you leave the teams app open on an ios device, it will remain green no matter what you do. When I’m wfh, I just leave teams open in my iPad. I’m green all day long and it still adjusts the color to red for meetings. The main thing here is to remember to turn it off after hours. If you are still green at 10pm every day, it might look suspicious.

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  • PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unlike many others in this thread, I can’t download any programs on my work laptop. I just don’t have permissions.

    So I found a much lower tech way of staying green. I go to the chat with yourself chat. Then I put a 3 pound weight on the backspace button. This keeps me green forever.

    With my old work laptop, I was able to press backspace then wedge a set of tweezers in the key to hold it down.

    Whatever works lol.

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