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His behaviour sure doesn’t help.
I’d argue that he’s worse than Hitler. Hitler seemed to at least love his idea of Germany. Trump cares only about himself. He’s not above any of Hitler’s brand of crimes, the chance to profit off of them has just not introduced itself fully yet.
Trump is among the worst humans in history.
like mad Roman emperor level.
Raped children, casually murdered 150 school girls, Hitler style Gestapo and concentration camps, unmatched level of corruption…
like worst human in history, the question is maybe if he’s worse than Hitler, not Bush
If you put it down to a skeptical view of Trump’s critics, the guy loses without any fucking criticism
I guess it depends what you mean exactly. Hated by people now? Hated by contemporaries? Hated by specifically American voters vs anyone affected by them? Total number of people who hate? Proportion of population? Intensity of hatred?
There’s also the extent to which media plays a role in this. We’re constantly aware of all the horrible shit Trump is doing, but the average person probably wouldn’t know much about say, The Trail of Tears at the time and it’s hard to say if they’d care given the way natives were portrayed to them. As for how people today look back on these people… maybe it’s just recency bias, but people don’t seem to really emotionally “hate” historical presidents as much as you’d think they should just based off what they’ve done. Slave owners, war mongers, and genocidal maniacs. People mostly know about the big stuff but… they always seem kind of disconnected from the horror of it.
So Idk. Trump is definitely up there, but depending on exactly what we’re talking about, we could probably make a good case for a few other monsters of the past.
Hated? Nah. But perhaps the most abhorred, despised, disdained, and even loathed.
It’s hard to remember how much we hated Bush II back in the day. The fact that he is now just lumped in with the other surviving presidents today for me is the real demonstration of just how much worse Trump is.
Bush II should have swung besides Saddam, but trump has dashed any hopes I have for holding GWB accountable for pissing away the future of the middle class to murder the shit out of people on the other side of the world.
Man, its wild how much i miss conservatives of yesteryear.
Trump is the product of a Bush family conspiracy to rehabilitate Dubya’s image.
I think Bush was bad but a lot of the bad stuff he did was somewhat reversible (ICE existed , plus it’s not his fault that ICE is now used as a papers-please. There was PATRIOT but we reversed it so it’s actually a great example of what I mean.) and relatively short-term. Reagan, meanwhile, made a giant hole in our infrastructure that is still ingrained within everything today.
Bt ICE was literally created by the Bush admin align with the rest of the DHS, and the Patriot Act wasn’t reversed so much as disseminated into earmarks attached to various spending bills so it’s actually even harder to get those freedoms back. Even our current immigration system is descended from Bush era policy, including the fucking wall.
He is consistently ranked the worst president
He’s consistently the worst person, period.
Probably. It’s hard to think of another president that fucked kids, and was this blatantly corrupt.
Thomas Jefferson, Bill Clinton (probably). I can’t even name all the US Presidents, but I’m pretty sure child rapists are over-represented in that group.
Jefferson
raped an enslaved woman and enslaved his own children.
Serious question who is worse, trump or bush jr. Trump is fucking awful 100% but don’t forget bush and his lies for why we invaded Iraq. He arguable set up the Republican base towards Trumpism. God gome to think of it there hasn’t been a good Republican president in a looooong time.
He arguable set up the Republican base towards Trumpism.
I mean if that’s how we are judging them, what do you think Trump’s presidency is going to set up for future shitbags?
You really can’t tell which is worse?
I mean it is possible that future Presidents will be more evil shrug-outta-hecks
I shudder to think of a future in which we’re like “I miss trump”. 😬
On more than one occasion I’ve said “I miss W”
I mean so far, he’s the worst in every aspect of presidential behavior and performance… And he’s a baby raping shit eater
Everyone talks about going back in time to kill Hitler, but I am sure a lot of people have changed their answer to Trump now.
Ok, no matter how bad Trump is, comparing him to Hitler in insanity. Trump didn’t have millions of Jews killed.
He seems to be pretty cool with supporting a genocide now
I didn’t compare him to hitler, i just said I think Trump has become a popular choice to pick if one had a time machine, and in some peoples mind they might pick him over hitler.
Please calm down.
Yes. He would.
He would literally have those tortures live streamed into his living room. He loves violence & war.
The only reason that trump has not surpassed hitler in the genocide and inhuman abuses of people, is because we still have a society that is not going to fall for this crap.
Trump would be worse than hitler. Hitler was (wrongly) trying to rid the world of a group of people. Trump is just getting revenge on every single thing he does not like. There is no one group to target, he will turn on anyone at any time. Because he is a mentally ill broken child and utterly psycho.
It’s insanity so far…
He tried to make the camps already. He is trying hard to do a genocide in Cuba (no idea on how successful, since the press can’t go there anymore), he is killing lots of civilians on the Middle East just for the explosion videos, and he is supporting Israel.
If he could, there’s no doubt he would be worse.
He’s more akin to Stalin. Trump has an incompetent indifference to the US population. If he had acted earlier during COVID he could have prevented at least 100K unnecessary deaths. And then he goes and gets the vaccine in secret. Sure he hasn’t killed as many people as Stalin yet but given his policies on climate change it’s very possible his actions will lead directly to more deaths than Stalin and Hitler combined. Only time will tell and our descendants will not judge people like trump kindly.
Lincoln literally had half the country in armed rebellion against him.
Still a much better president than Trump, but I’m pretty sure that qualifies him as ‘more hated’.
The Union had about 22 million people, and the Confederacy was about 5.5 million if you don’t count the slaves or about 9 million if you include them. So it’s not really half in that sense.
If you put all of the Union in the “approve” category and all of the Confederacy in the “disapprove” category (and not leave the slaves out of this) then Lincoln would have about an 80% approval rating, which is far higher than Trump can claim.
I know at the time he had to have his supporters, but I don’t recall ever seeing someone in modern times defend Nixon. I think it’ll be like that. Kids in history classes won’t be able to wrap their heads arou d how someone so clearly stupid won the presidency and made such a huge mess.
Kids in history classes won’t be able to wrap their heads arou d how someone so clearly stupid won the presidency and made such a huge mess.
To be fair to those kids, I don’t even understand it as an adult living today.
I don’t recall ever seeing someone in modern times defend Nixon
I do from about 12 days ago.
oh… oh no…
Someone hasn’t heard about what JD said recently.
roger stone would like a word
Not really sure why anyone would hate any other president more...
I guess there's like Andrew Jackson, but even then we're so far removed from that time it'd be weird to say you "hate" him.
What about hated at the time?
Lincoln, no contest. Having half the country in armed rebellion trying to kill you is hard to beat.
People forget Bush 2 because he was charismatic.
I thought George W Bush and his admin was the worst Republican America could come up with... that was, until 2016...
I'd take W over Trump any day. Before the Iran War maybe there was an argument in Trump's favor. But today? No contest.
Bush 2 was a failson who was largely well intentioned, but also had no idea what his dad’s friends were doing in his cabinet. His second term he started taking a more proactive role when he realized how he was responsible for a lot of the fuckery going on around him. At the same time, Iraq was all his baby. I don’t say this to absolve him of anything, he was a shit president, but he was about as shitty as any other nepobaby that managed to fail into high office.
“he paints now!”
Who are we kidding. There are still people who worship Hitler these days. Sick bastard will always have followers. But to normal people, yeah, he will be at the very least in the top 3.
easily trump. yeah you got bush junior and nixon and reagan but trump is not bad in one particular way. he is bad in every way. Hes killed us citizens with a personal paramilitary force. That alone is beyond anything you can point to with another president and yes. killing our own is a bigger deal than things that can be deflected in war. just like somone killing your spouse is going to be a bigger deal to you than a serial killer that did that thing somewhere far away that one time.
Most divisive at least, there are still a horde of loyal cultists who will follow him to the end though.
Most divisive at least
Under Lincoln, the country was divided into two factions literally at war with each other.
Yep. If you want to count all the people who hate Trump and say he is “the most hated” then you kinda have to count all the people who love Trump and ask whether he is “the most loved” also ?
I don’t know the answer to that question. It certainly seems as though some portion of his supporters are more committed than I’ve seen for any other political leader, but it might just seem that way because of the way things work in 2026.
Regardless, it seems most accurate to say Trump is the most divisive because “most hated” doesn’t really capture it.
Yes, but I only because people are afraid to admit that virtually every president has been an evil fucker. We have presidents that OWNED PEOPLE.
America basically voted Steven Seagal to be their president, so 100%
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 21 minutes ago
Remember the civil war…