I rather eat that peaceful non-domestic wild animal, than the industry pigs down in the supermarkets cooler. Then we can talk about how fucked up the meat industri is. Nothing wrong with spending time and connecting with the nature, both the hard parts and romantic parts. Makes you more human.
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Bullerfar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
And more the natural animal a human really is.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Deer ARE beautiful creatures, but as a person who lives in the north I can absolutely confirm they are some of the dumbest fucking animals on the planet. They have exactly 1 reaction to any stimuli. Flight. Run like hell or ??die?? In my area they panic, run straight at headlights and cars screaming past.
Really THINK about that. A robin, a crow, or an ant has more thinking power in an pea-sized sized brain.
They’re not going to be splitting the atom any time soon. Don’t feel bad for them, just admire the one standing out in the field for its beauty and watch the F out on a country road.Jumi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To your last sentence, if we hadn’t killed their predators we wouldn’t have that problem.
And venison salami is the best.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To your point, I think if their natural predators were still around we’d also have a lot fewer children around.
Venison salami IS delicious.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but… Why do we base a creature’s right to exist on their intelligence as perceived by us? We have no idea what headlights look like to them or how stressful it is being a keystone prey species. I certainly wouldn’t want to walk a mile in their shoes. Personally they’re a massive nuisance and garden pest, but I understand we brought out houses to them and not the other way around so I don’t hold it against them.
They’re not going to be splitting the atom any time soon.
Oh, well actually I do hold that against them. Nevermind.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Kind of true by how we treat humans as well, actually. Even the most progressive person seems to cheer for a Darwin Award from a MAGA member.
Intelligence is repeatedly the one exception to the eugenics is bad rule, I know best about that.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Its no different then how we handle invasive species.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Best lasagna you’ll ever have is 75% ground venison mixed 25% with the fattiest ground beef you can get. Same for a super dense and heavy meatloaf.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds phenomenal.
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Well, yes, but elk.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Part of me wants the USA to have a venison industry so it’s commonly available in grocery stores, off the efforts of hunters.
But, that industry would commit itself to forever existence and growth. If someone could be trusted to let that practice stop when deer population balances, or even work to ensure people replace farmed meat consumption with hunted, then it could be beneficial.
But…yeah, that’s a big “if”.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d be happy if the DNR just let people in the butcher businesses handle the road kills, IF they agree to donate the meat to local food pantries.
But yeah- fuck capitalism either way.
InputZero@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
and watch the F out on a country road.
This is the internet. You don’t have to censor yourself. You can say fuck here.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
fuck here
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
What if they want to censor themselves? Don’t they have the right to do that without this stupid f’ing comment being commented all the time.
This is the internet you don’t have to comment on things you don’t like, you can move along.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No no, they have two responses, flight and freeze.
If they only had flight they’d be somewhat more predictable. As it is, you can’t trust them to even move when needed.
And I agree that venison is fucking delicious. Love me some venison mince ragu, get rosemary in the meat. Mmm.
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I suppose that’s fair, freeze wasn’t dramatic enough for me to consider that.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Precious”
For people that don’t live with them or have to deal with their problems.
They wreck all your plantings. Whatever ornamental garden you might have apparently tastes better than any natural plants, they will destroy them. You want a garden to grow your own food? Need a 8 foot fence around it, and that probably still isn’t enough. They jump in and wreck everything. They shit parasites and drop ticks everywhere. Dogs are idiots and eat deer shit, picking up parasites. Trees or saplings are just perfect to rub heads or horns on, they destroy the bark and kill the plant…again apparently because your plants are better to wreck than anything out in the woods.
Yeah, I think deer are pretty cute, but fuck them too. Goddamn pests.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i read somewhere that there was an area with an overpopulation of deer and they nearly turned this beautiful forest into a completely barren desert. then wolves were introduced into the area and things got better
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Game of telephone with that one, worse with every telling. No deer turned anyplace into a desert. Just the reintroduction of wolves improved the overall health of an ecosystem. I believe it was Yellowstone.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Any thing in excess is bad. Too many deer is bad, too many wolves is bad.
The same reason is why the rise in vegan alternative demand has increased the amount of monocrops such as soy. Which has actually caused more animal deaths though the knock on effects of those crops then cattle ranching causes.
Insect death, natural pollinators, and loss of habitat because of it are major problems with the recent massive surge in demand for vegan alternatives on mass scales.
You have to have balance. Too much of anything is bad, and not enough is also bad. Spread out the demand and keep natural resources in check by not over taxing them and not letting them run out of control.
MrScruff@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You might be thinking of the Meese on Isle Royale: en.wikipedia.org/…/Wolves_and_moose_on_Isle_Royal…
…and if not it’s still a fun read.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pest animals such as deer are about the most ethical source of protein you can get in my country
I’m all for eating feral animals whenever possible
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What country are you from? Theres a few deer near me in the UK, and ive never even considered they could be pests. They look excellent to me.
I cant eat them though, because I used to work in a meat factory and whenever we had venison to process it stank like fuck. Not sure if it does or if their supplier was awful quality, but its put me off forever.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think that in Australia they’re considered an invasive species, at least some species, as they’re not native, breed fast, and devastate local ecosystems to the point they’re seen as pests.
In Europe they’re just part of the local fauna, and population numbers are well under control.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
KiwiStrayan
Deer, rabbit, pig, goat, etc. are all pests and should be eradicated
So I may as well be eating them
sicarius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In the UK their population needs to be controlled otherwise they will be a pest.
If left unchecked they will devastate tree populations.
If I recall correctly there was an estate who didn’t keep up with their deer culling and the army got called in with helicopters.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Humboldt squid in California are even more ethical. Invasive, fecund, voracious, ferocious, short lived.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
And delicious, I have heard.
hedge_lord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Deer eats my tomatoes. My tomatoes are now part of deer. I eat deer, thereby reclaiming my tomatoes. Honour restored.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shit on your tomato plants and the deer becomes tomatoes
Nautalax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They are extremely overpopulated in much of the US, in part because most of the natural predators capable of keeping their numbers down have been killed off and there has been a huge artificial increase in field/forest interfaces where they thrive. Huge amounts of starving deer abound and descend on diminishing native vegetation with a voracious appetite while generally ignoring weird invasive foreign plants. Many native plant gardeners are vexed by their tendency to gnaw native plants and shrubs to death unless those are caged in and some got a taste for venison out of revenge haha.
Would be cool if we could re-introduce red wolves and the like to keep a lid on the deer without like half of the predators ending up shot or run over
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Panthers have ventured up into Arizona and New Mexico not too long ago. Panthers could take out a few deer. And some hikers.
Nautalax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Same thing with kangaroos in Australia, though even I still find it a little too weird given they’re a national symbol and all.
The alternative is that they overpopulate, overgraze and proceed to starve to death. Which is no good for anyone.
FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Kangaroos never really had any natural predators though, especially considering dingos were introduced.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Man, I hate white tailed deer. People think they’re precious until they run straight into your car thinking they can just pass through it.
JayDee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or until you’re explained just how much damage they’re doing to forest ecosystems by overbreeding and destroying native plant life. They’re becoming a locust-level issue.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Overbreeding. They’re doing what they do, what they’re supposed to do. It’s not their fault all their predators and 9/10ths of their ecosystem have been removed.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Oh aye, I know of that, but the average USA citizen doesn’t care about the environment worth a damn to do anything about it. So it’s easier to tell them you’ll likely wreck into a deer more often because of their over population and utter stupidity.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Release the wolves! Chuck Fenrir or Garmr if you have to, fuck them deer.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or jump across the trail your riding and almost give you a heart attack.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The only good thing about them is that they are not moose.
GhostFace@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
People really can’t stop making fun of vegans can they?
HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Humans like to reinforce group membership and receive validation by targeting out-groups.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Flat earthers exist just like this, solely for validation of each other for being so stupid.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
why would they stop? vegans aren’t special, they are just people. People make fun of people.
it would be wrong NOT to make fun of them, that would be exclusivity
the_trash_man@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The original poster was the one trying to guilt trip people in the first place. A bit of light humor is a reasonable response.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Mostly this dweeb. They are nature fetishists or some shit.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Right, like other animals aren’t killing the shit out of each other all the fucking time‽ Or they think they’re better than nature.
braxy29@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i mean, it was a fair question.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Fry up a steak with butter, salt and pepper. Jerky is also pretty good, and if you have it ground it makes a solid chili.
ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
butter, salt and pepper
The only Holy Trinity I’ll ever recognize.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Same as eating any other meat, with barely masked hypocrisy
jellygoose@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It is probably more honest. You have to hunt, clean and prepare the animal. It’s not in an abstract form in a styrofoam container.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Plus a bullet is better then being eaten butthole first by a bear.
uberfreeza@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d never be able to be the one to pull the metaphorical or physical trigger when it comes to eating any animal. I love animals way too much. But damn some meats are just so good that it made it difficult to go fully vegetarian/vegan.
modus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do what I do and have someone else kill it.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
That’s why I only ate chicken at some point.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If it helps vegan diets have caused more animal deaths then cattle ranching.
Mono cropping increases due to the rise in demand for vegan alternatives have caused some of the largest wide scale death of insects and natural pollinators of any farming practices.
The primary crops to support a vegan diet have also driectly caused some of the largest loss of habits and death to wild life due to how demanding on the land and tempamental they are.
Vegan diets literally are murder.
It is impossible to avoid killing animals on mass scales to support any form of human population no matter what form of diet you have.
You either raise and kill them directly in controlled fashions that minimize the damage to the environment. Or you destroy the land and wild habitats both indirectly and driectly though mass mono cropping farms to support extremely inefficient alterative crops on enough of a scale to allow for wide spread consumption.
In a bit of a weird twist a pescatarian diet and a more normal vegetarian diet that still consumed animal by products. Cause less harm to animal life then any other.
Avoiding “murder” is impossible. Its just factually not how nature works. But minimization is very possible. And reducing your demand on monocrops like soy saves more animals then any other option you can make.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Congrats on posting the most wrong thing I have read today.
Also, are you a writer for Landman?
palimpsest@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This is just rage bait, no?
On soy usage: ourworldindata.org/…/soybean-production-and-use
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s not like factory farming does mono cropping like it’s a sport.
You can select what non-animal stuff you eat, but you can’t select what animals are fed. Unless there is some seal that limits what they can be fed or you really know the farmer. That’s a prime example for optimizing for the cheapest thing you can get that still delivers what you need.
Meat is a luxury good. It always was.
With 372,853,699Mg of soy production in 2021 and 8 billion world population, we could already give 127g of soy to every human every day. That’s like half a liter of soy milk and 100g tofu.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It’s weird because the people who make these kinds of jokes are effectively saying they think animal abuse and slaughter is funny. Thank you for letting everyone else know you are not a safe person to be around.
sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
can’t spell slaughter without laughter
Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
With ghee (& optional touch of garam masala), balsamic vinegar, cayenne, pink salt.
Maybe some fried garlic in a dollop of kimchi & mayo.
Keep their numbers in control, so their food supply does not get over-run, so they keep on living strong as a species. Keep your health. Good all around, on the whole, so long as not doing it stupidly.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Reddit down?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What happened in the eight years since? The suspense is killing me. Oh dear.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I find it interesting that posts from 2018 are now being reposted at the same quality that posts from 2010 were being reposted back in 2018
Miller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I thought they were talking to the deer about eating the plants.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
With a knife a fork off a plate in most cases.
JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That reply was cooked to perfection. He really chose violence with a side of seasoning. 😂
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
What an odd way to say that you never revalued your moral believes. Are you Omnis ok?
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
white tails are overpopulating and kinda invasive
youre doing them a favoe
islandcoda42@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
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JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You joke, but if we can value the lives of one lifeform over another, why should that have to stop with animals?
Just because it’s harder to anthropomorphize tomato plants, that makes it okay to selectively breed them so their children taste better.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Vegans like to call this a bad faith distraction, but when I was a vegan I went all in. No lettuce, no root vegetables, I only ate fruits (botanically speaking, seed-bearing bodies). The plants want you to eat those, and they’re freely given.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It takes more plants to fatten up animals than if you just eat plants directly.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think of this a lot too. Just because it can’t think does not make its life should just mean any less. It does not want to die even if it can’t conceptualize death, life or anything. But the fact that we can means we are the ones fucking up.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Well, keep in mind, the recent popular trend of vegan diets has caused a spike in certain mono crops, which have caused a mass death of insects and natural pollinators, which has massive knock-on effects, killing off other wild animals and habitats.
To support the ever-growing demand of the more inefficient vegan alternatives, we have inadvertently created a situation where we are now over taxing our farmland and natural resources to the point that they can no longer sustain themselves or naturally replenish the necessary floor and fauna needed to keep the habitats in working order which is just started causing issues all over the place.
Mono cropping is never good but at least up till recently a lot of the issues were somewhat manageable. Still very damaging but somewhat manageable. The massive Spike in vegetarian and vegan diets with point younger generations has pushed us well over the tipping point.
It would still even be somewhat okay if it was just a rise in a more traditional vegetarian-focused diet like say you see commonly in India. But you can really only push mono, cropping, soy and other things so far before you just start ruining shit.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM