Hello fellow juggalos, it’s me, a juggalo. I was just taking Wolfie for a walk.
It turns out that Juggalo makeup blocks facial recognition technology
Submitted 2 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
https://consequence.net/2019/07/juggalo-makeup-facial-recognition/
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Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
kautau@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Your foster-juggalos are dead”
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
snooggums@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
“Have you seen this meme?”
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
“Never heard of him… Wait, isn’t that the meme over there!?”
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
perishthethought@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Ha ha, took me a minute to recognize him as Nathan Fillion from the Rookie. 🙂
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No, that’s the T-1000. A mimetic polyalloy.
BillyClark@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
You know those influencers who are like makep addicts? They often use shading or tape to change the shape of their faces. I wonder whether they could fool facial recognition technology as well.
The difference being that a person made up like that won’t stand out as much as a person wearing Juggalo makeup.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
We must be close to the sort of flexible eink display that will finally make Rorschach’s mask a thing.
SayJess@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
We become Rorschach. Funny joke, everyone laughs.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Who is this Rorschach guy and why does he have so many pictures of my parents fighting‽
moakley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Second time this week I’ve had an occasion to use this gif. Shame I couldn’t find one with more pixels.
bless@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Times are tough. You got to save pixels where you can
imjustmsk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Those clankers are consuming every byte they get their hands on.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used to think juggalos were cringe but I’m really digging how based they are. Music isn’t my taste but I’ve got weird musical preferences anyway.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Christian Rock.
Juice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Juggalos are still identified as a domestic terrorist org, probably for this exact reason
SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jesus, with the horrible and steady descent into hell over the past years, I totally forgot about that. Ah, the nostalgia of the past when these clowns were so scary that they got bumped up to terrorists.
Juice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Why would they need facial recognition? Just look for the guy in clown makeup.
bless@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No need to look. Everyone knows he’s in the oval office
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Nice!
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think in the future everyone will wear masks like daft punk
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It won’t work alone for long in the age of AI. You won’t be tracked and identified by face alone. It’ll be a complex array of data points. Your face, your hair, your eye color if the cameras have the resolution, your height, your gait, your posture, your scars and injuries, your visible birth defects, whether you use mobility aids, the wireless devices emitting signals in your pockets, the list goes on and on. They’ll assemble dozens of data points and make it extremely difficult to falsify enough to avoid detection instead of just getting flagged as suspicious.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Once we have a case where AI fabricated evidence is used to convict somebody it will also get much easier to dismiss a lot of this data. Imo, I still get ads for dogfood for a dog I don’t own.
Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Even if you go full privacy focused with a locked down phone and a dumb car flock cameras are tracking your plate, scanners are tracking the tire sensors in your wheels and phones need IMEI tower connections so all that is logged.
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Will they actually devote the resources to try to pierce the anonymity of those handful of people? Everything we’ve seen about how tech companies operate is that they reach a threshold of “good enough for most cases” and don’t bother trying to optimize the edge cases. Collecting the billions of data points to try to use dozens of analysis techniques, and then having some kind of meta analysis on how to resolve disagreements between models, would be resource intensive beyond their own profit motives.
Someone who wants to defeat gait analysis with a different pair of shoes (heel height and sole thickness and back support affect how people walk), and wears a mask might lose the arms race if the tech companies choose to continue to improve the tech even after it’s already good enough.
I think it’s possible but not inevitable. Especially if there’s a financial reckoning for AI companies soon.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
The clothing they wear solves most of those. For the physical side (gait, height, etc) it’s a little harder but shoe’s have an effect on most of those (i.e. the round bottom shoes meant to help people work out just by walking wildly change a normal gait and posture).
For the devices though it could get fun. You could have a device mounted in the helmet that will pretend to be people you’ve passed, essentially just replaying the beacons (SSID broadcasts, etc) for the sake of a digital camouflage.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
we passed the point where this became possible years ago, it’s just a matter of them bothering to do it to you.
Which is why we should have zero tolerance for surveillance cameras, even if we assume everyone involved has the best of intentions, they can and will get hacked (a horrifying amount of cameras are available over the internet without even a password) and the data will be used to hunt people down.
gibson@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Which is already illegal in much of the US. Will it hold up in court? Maybe not but that doesn’t stop cops from demanding you take it off
oatscoop@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Makeup isn’t, though. We all just need to get down with the clown.
Brb, buying FIZZ 34.30 -0.26(0.75%) 🠳
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hope so. Personally I’m pulling for a modular jumpsuit as well. Most of it will come as one piece, so no more worrying about pants and tops as separate items which have to be coordinated and can get lost. Socks/gloves/masks etc would be optional but will just snap onto the main bodysuit piece. Everything will be interchangeable, standardized and spares can be purchased anywhere. Different weights for different climates etc, but it’s all one platform, like the AR-15 of clothing.
Please vote for me in the upcoming primary. If I win I’m sending everyone a free suit. ~(Which you’ll need, because they’ll be mandatory) ~ VOTE FOR ME
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That would at least be fun, if not a bit uncomfortable long term.
homes@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Wasn’t this established a long time ago?
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It was.
And I have bad news: it’s largely no longer true. Modern models, gait recognition, 3d face maps, all can de-anonymize juggalo/clown makeup
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If Juggalo makeup isn’t your thing, Sith would probably work just as well.
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If you’re thinking lf Darth Maul, that was his face because he was a Zabrak and they sport facial tattoos. Facial tattoos aren’t a necessary feature of the Sith.
qarbone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are they tattoos? I thought Dathomiri Zabrak just had skin spot patterns?
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No need to paint the face, this is known since time by Paparazi tired famous people.
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
I wonder if those patterns still work.
webp@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
What is a juggalo?
JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fan of Insane Clown Posse, aka ICP
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Its pronounced “I-see-pee”
Yes, I’m an official adult, why do you ask?
cdf12345@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
He’s duckin’ them drones, he’s swerving them cams,
He’s rockin’ that greasepaint, confusin’ the scans.
Facial recognition? Ha, you ain’t got a shot,
When my mug’s lookin’ wilder than a Jackson Pollock!
He’s pourin’ out Faygo, all sticky and sweet,
Splashin’ those lenses, now the fuzz can’t see.
He’s trickin’ Big Brother, he’s hackin’ the flow,
They livin’ 1984, but he’s sayin’ “Fuck no!”
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You’re the fucking man
Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I don’t know. That’s what it is and fuck if I know.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
[deleted]Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
hey just so you know “white trash” reinforces a racial hierarchy, and is thereby a racist term. as a term, it is built on the presumption that white people are supposed to be higher than the lowest rung of society.
whatever you may think of ICP’s fans, this critique of them is classist and unhelpful
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Last year, Ticketmaster and LiveNation invested in a former military facial recognition company, with the hope that the technology could be used to both strengthen and speed up event entry
Because of course
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Great until the cops are looking for that one Juggalo in Jamestown but you have to represent…
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Alternatively use a guy fawkes mask.
Wait…teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
People will call the cops on clowns they spot on the street, and cops respond. I kid you not, at least in some places.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Ya know, they do have two songs I like, maybe I’m a juggalo now
Sergio@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Just outta curiosity, what are those 2 songs?
Aviandelight@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Not who you were originally asking but Tilt-a-whirl is so much better than it has any right to be. It’s on my top five lists of songs containing the best belting out of “mother fucker.” My husband may eventually win his battle of getting me to like ICP.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Homies and spin the bottle lol
Homies is just a great track, period. If anyone else had done it, it would have been bigger than it was.
Spin the bottle is less great overall, but I like it anyway
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
So the Juggalo 's were right?
Man, this timeline is insane
normalentrance@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Woop woop
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I’m not doing that.
mrslt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Woop woop
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
I feel like you might stand out as “the guy wearing clown makeup”
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Every Cyberpunk setting has a gang of clowns. Jokerz, Halloweeners, Bozos
ClathrateG@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
woop woop
TwilitSky@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It also blocks your dignity.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
being surveilled is not dignified at all though.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
It can be if you make them do it, grin for the show give it a line!
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
if david bowie or juggalo paint lets me walk with my head held high instead of hiding my face in public, then it is the dignified option. dignity is choosing to live your life free. if other people think it looks ridiculous, so be it
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
dignity is choosing to live your life free
Fuckin’ PREACH.
undeffeined@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What’s a Juggalo, precious?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Well worth the watch.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the leftist/lemming fashion trend of 2026!
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Whoop whoop!
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
Let’s go all the way!
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Some??
FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Image
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ICP is based as hell:
“I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG
Out here pretending like you ain’t offendin’
I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG
You redneck judges with racist grudges
I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG
If you gotta tattoo, I’m aimin’ at you
I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG
You get punched in your faces reppin’ the racists”
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Speaking as someone who isn’t a juggalo, it’s clear that the subculture represents a lot more people than just the ones who identify with it. Like with Punk, a lot of outsiders don’t look past the aesthetic to realize that they’re trying to convey an important social message and be a voice for disenfranchised groups. They aren’t just people in clown make-up, they’re people who were fucked over by society and this is the outlet they found. Sadly it’s easier to laugh at memes about magnets than to confront their reality.
I’d include the rap subculture as well but sadly their message became diluted when they achieved mainstream success and were co-opted by the marketing amd propaganda machine as another tool to perpetuate the Spectacle.
FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
CoC goes hard.