cross-posted from: discuss.tchncs.de/post/55430533
“Hands up you FREAK!” “…im a farmer” “omg thats cool, can i bring my kids to watch and maybe they can try?”
"Being vegan is unnatural"
Submitted 10 hours ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to [deleted]
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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
Look, I just like cheese okay?
Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I think this post might be too powerful for lemmy shitpost.
Decoy321@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’m genuinely impressed by the amount of reports I’ve gotten from this thread. This is top tier shit.
lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
Can we get a peek? Sounds juicy
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Society had to implement bestiality laws because vegans loved animals a little too much.
lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
It’s not like vegans wants animals inside them. Or that they financially support fisting cows like in OP’s picture.
remon@ani.social 10 hours ago
I mean, it’s not really bestiality if it isn’t sexual. A gynocological exam also isn’t fingering …
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 hours ago
A gynaecologist “treats” the patient, benefitting the patient.
Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape.
remon@ani.social 10 hours ago
Artificial insemination is a treatment.
Devadander@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Pretty fucked up to try to equate animal husbandry with rape.
FatVegan@leminal.space 3 hours ago
Is your gynecologist jerking you off?
remon@ani.social 3 hours ago
No, but I’ve seen some video evidence …
RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Eww, no. Gross.
My gyno jerks off my cows like a civilized person.
9blb@feddit.org 4 hours ago
I’m not sure on the specific definition of “bestiality” and whether “sexual pleasure of the executing party” or whatever you want to call it is a necessity, but consent should certainly be a part of it.
Animals are, similar to children, students etc, fundamentally incapable of giving consent. If your gynecologist sticks a finger up your vagina without your consent, then it’s rape.
remon@ani.social 4 hours ago
Animals are, similar to children, students etc, fundamentally incapable of giving consent
Well … I agree with most of your points. But animals are not humans, so consent works fundamentally different. Domestic animals are owned, so humans act as the legal guardian. Yes, there should still be regulation regarding general animal welfare.
But I don’t think artificial insemination of livestock falls into the category of bestiality. It’s a fun meme and shitpost, though.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
If your gynecologist sticks a finger up your vagina without your consent, then it’s rape.
So they’re supposed to ask every fucking time you’re spread at the table May i please insert my finger in your vagina to do my fucking job, pretty please?
And are you sure students can’t consent?
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Aka the nudist defense.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It is sexual, it sounds like they jack them off to acquire genetic material to impregnate the female livestock with
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 9 hours ago
Trying to be “facts forward” so make of this what you will. Source: I was in FFA in highschool in a beef intense-ish area.
The method of collecting semen I’m most familiar with is when they take a female cow in heat and tie her up, then bring a male bull they want to collect semen from into the same pen. The male will smell the female is in heat, gets erect, and will attempt to mount her.
As the male is trying to mount the female, people in the pen with the cattle will have a large rubbery “sleeve” on a pole (imagine a cow sized condom on a stick) that they will maneuver around the bull’s penis as it mounts the cow. He does his thing in the condom thinking he’s inside the female (usually less than 30 seconds) dismounts and then the ranchers have their semen for artificial insemination.
I’ve been out of that area for over a decade now a new method may have emerged since then, but in my Animal Sciences class, that’s how we were taught semen is harvested for most livestock.
remon@ani.social 10 hours ago
Unless they are jacking off themselves at the same time, it’s not sexual.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’m a little disappointed that everybody is appealing to ethics and professionalism.
Look according to biblical law its fine as long as they’re married.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Decoy321@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
…My cow can’t get pregnant no matter how many times I… Hey there buddy! Wrong hole!
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Veganism is unnatural because we’re all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.
Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.
Both can be true.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 7 hours ago
Fun fact, we evolved to eat raw meat, that’s why we have an appendix. Then, when we stopped eating raw meat, we started to evolve away from the appendix.
Evolutionary arguments don’t support the naturalist fallacy, because evolution doesn’t work like that. It responds to environmental pressures. It’s not some guiding light for what we’re “meant” to be doing, it’s the tools we’ve got to support what we already did.
Caffie@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This article says it was for raw vegetables:
For our ancestors, the appendix most likely evolved to help them digest a diet rich in raw vegetables and cellulose, as it still does in many herbivorous mammals. Thousands of years ago it would have functioned as an extension of the cecum, involved in the bacterial digestion of fibrous plant materials.
hector@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
That is not proven though, the appendix part, that’s the explanation I like the best as well. Other explanations, I forget, the aliens had it for some shit we don’t even know about, oh yeah, the more likely non joke one, and it could be what you say and this both many organs do multiple things, is to provide a reservoir of gut bacteria, to repopulate the gut after the system is flushed. That would go right along with digesting raw meat, as using independent bacteria is large part of the human body we’ve come to learn.
I forget what the other theories are, but there are others for the appendix, I believe the raw meat and reservoir of bacteria both though is most likely.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
To quote Meatloaf: 🎵🎶 IIIIIIIIIIII WANT MY
MONEYAPPENDIX BACK!🎶🎵CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s probably got more to do with eating less rotten meat than eating less raw meat. It has functions for the immune system it is like the surveillance system for what is being introduced to the body.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Vegans will NEVER have the political clout to force their way of life on everyone, and they’re mad AF about it.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
to force their way of life on everyone
So fascism?
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s not just political clout. Attempting to politically force veganism on the world would result in a war, not just votes against it.
mech@feddit.org 6 hours ago
we’re all omnivores
Except, you know, the vegans.
snooggums@piefed.world 4 hours ago
They are still omnivores who choose to limit their diet. Acknowledging that is a choice gives it meaning, which would be lost if it was treated as something similar to being an herbivore.
I am not personally a vegan or vegetarian, but respect the choice to limit one’s diet for the purpose of limiting animal suffering.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
that’s a choice by an individual. doesn’t change how their body behaves due to millions of years of evolution.
ironically, the thing that gave them the ability to make the choice to be vegan is the thing they are rebelling against. high volumes of protein, specifically those from consuming the brains and muscle of prey, allowed the species to grow larger and more complex brains.
in a few million years vegans are going to be too stupid to make the choice for themselves and will return to consuming meat because they’re omnivorous.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.
Definitely. Aren’t their hands in the anus?
hector@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
Our monkey ancestors were more vegan than meat eater.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Today, most people are “more vegan” than meat eater, too, as in they eat more grains and vegetables than meat. If that’s what you meant.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
More vegan.
What a curious phrase. Not just for the substitution of vegetarian for vegan, but for the use of “more”. More vegan. I thought it was binary. Are their partial vegans? I thought that wasn’t allowed.
Because my diet includes more calories and nutrition from plant matter than meat most days, am I more vegan now?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
that’s like comparing us to the primordial plankton that use to eat microbes.
it’s just really stupid.
let’s ignore 25 million years of evolution.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
There’s no evidence to support that. Best evidence is that our ancestors for the longest time were likely opportunistic omnivores. Plants of course were a large part of the diet, but looking back to about 3.9 mya meat was on the menu.
Grimy@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
You guys are doing it for the meat and that’s weak. I don’t need a reason.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 22 minutes ago
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
this entire post and thread.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 48 minutes ago
dude i’m not one to kinkshame, but, uh, your kink is showing
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 24 minutes ago
doug@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
also I’m just happy to see such engagement in the fediverse. really brings out the lurkers.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
If people are willing to mastrubate bulls for money, then just imagine what else they are willing to do to earn a buck.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Bull*. Earn a bull. Bucks are deer, silly.
obre@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
ITT: Animal abuse apologia
Cyrus@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
How on earth is this a shitpost?
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Fruit is perfectly wholesome and natural though. Except they aren’t…
Corn is basically a bulge of semen because of how humans have bred it.
Bananas are incapable of reproducing. All bananans you find in the supermarket are clones. If men were to die out, so would the common (cavendish) banana.
Cows are bred for milk production. If it wasn’t for men, their milk production would be very different. It’s just as natural as a banana.
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 6 hours ago
Cows are just as unnatural as bananas, but the farming of animals is much more cruel, unnecessary, and destructive to the environment
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
True, but the monoculture of banans is also destructive to the environments and biodiversity.
sen@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Wait which part of the man is the banana reliant upon
Willy@sh.itjust.works 42 seconds ago
the part we eat.
stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
the part where we use pesticides, fertilizer and other techniques to make sure these plants don’t die. they’re bred for usefuleness, not for surviving in the wild. this is basically true for all crops we farm
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
I JUST RECENTLY found out I enjoy corn now. Dont take this away from me.
FishFace@piefed.social 4 hours ago
You know what’s really weird?
Soapboxing in a shitposting community. Bet you’re jackin’ off to it all, as well, ya perv.
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Yeah bro, im fucking triggered too, not gonna ngl
db2@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
“Farmers are weird therefore vegans aren’t”
🤦♂️
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
“this image clearly shows weirder things than any vegan does”
ghost@literature.cafe 7 hours ago
The posters here are the same types of men who used to argue that enslaved human beings weren’t ‘people,’ merely property to do with as they pleased.
Yes, there are savagely callous, rather unintelligent and spiritually devoid humans who claim that cows - and by implication all other non-human beings - are not ‘people,’ but it doesn’t make it true. It just betrays their own barbaric stupidity.
The argument that non-human animals do not share some vague set of traits that make humans the only species worthy of being classified as ‘people,’ is small-minded and ignorant, and based on outdated, biased and anthropocentric beliefs.
Cows are beings - like all mammals - who share the same kind of social bonds, care and love for family and community that humans share. They live complex emotional lives. They ARE ‘people,’ just as whales (who ARE legally recognized as having personhood), dolphins, elephants and primates are ‘people.’
Unfortunately we live in a society that more readily ascribes personhood to a sociopathic corporation than it does living, loving beings who nurture their young, suffer and grieve, and deserve to live lives of dignity as much as any human does.
scitechdaily.com/this-cow-uses-tools-and-its-forc…
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 minutes ago
The argument that non-human animals do not possess some vague set of traits that make humans the only species worthy of being classified as ‘people,’
Metacognition. It’s just metacognition. Not vague in the slightest. You can argue that it isn’t a good criterion, but it’s a very clear one.
goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
comparing slaves to animals is exactly what slavers do
Soulg@ani.social 5 hours ago
What does any of that have to do with eating or not eating meat lol
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Not much. This is mostly about animal milk production. Cows have to be pregnant in order to produce milk for their calves. But dairy farmers artificially inseminate (rape) cows and steal the milk meant for the calves.
Male calves and cows who get old are sent to slaughter houses for meat, and other products like leather.
So, it does have to do a little about eating and not eating meat, but it is mostly about animal milk.
HereIAm@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Vegans don’t drink milk either. And sticking one’s hand up a cow bum is a fast way to identify and treat several health related things. Artificial insemination just makes it easier for the farmers I guess.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 5 hours ago
I cannot see me needing to post about this any more, I need to get back to deleting my E-Mails to get under GMail’s size limits.
MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 9 hours ago
Serious question, wouldn’t cows and chickens basically become extinct if we didn’t use them for food? Cows can’t reproduce on their own and chickens would be easily killed by wild animals.
gigachad@piefed.social 9 hours ago
Most of the animals are bred sick just to maximize production. The answer to your question is self regulation - the amount of animals we are producing is absolutely unnatural. It is not like millions of chickens would populate the world if we wouldn’t exist. They are artificially fabricated in factories.
Why should a cow bred for maximizing milk production should exist and what should they do, jump around in the fields? A normal cow from some decades ago could get older than 20, while they are nowadays bred to produce as much milk as possible and die within 5-6 years.
snooggums@piefed.world 4 hours ago
Cows and chickens can reproduce on their own. For chickens to reproduce you just need a rooster around. For cows you just need a bull.
The forced insemination is actively deciding which animal is bred with which other animal and when. It is a control thing with more reliability than just having them together in the same field and hoping it worked out. Without humans they would reproduce just fine.
As a species they would likely struggle for a while as they adapted to not being protected from predators and being able to freely roam would result in some roaming places where there wasn’t enough food and water. Out of the millions of cattle there would be plenty of successes and they would live on and adapt.
astraeus@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Well, would you rather go extinct or be born just to live a life of misery, forever
hector@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
That is true, ranchers have opposed bestiality laws and made sure they didn’t pass or had major changes, because they love jerking off cows into containers. For real, like they don’t even use like a machine they go in there with their hands and do it, not weird at all, why are you guys making it weird?
Pretty gross, but bull semen from one they want to use as stock for their herds is worth more than gold. But how many of the bulls are worth that much? It can’t be that much, and I imagine just about any bull could knock up them heiffers, as had always been done before for tens of thousands of years.
They are overthinking it, just let the cows fuck, then you don’t have to jack off any cows. How much extra are you making getting the super fast growing cow to impregnate your heiffer? Not all that much I bet.
The USDA I think it was has been in on some rather unthinkably horrible experiences increasing the number of calves/piglets on cows and or pigs that have resulted in all of these horrible births gone awry, but they are still at it, trying to do too many to make an extra buck instead of just accepting a few each time as standard.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 4 hours ago
Okay, now I really have to go walk the dogs I care for on neighborhood Ave., way overdue, luckily still cool enough to do so & get to the boring, but required task of deleting E-Mails to get back under GMail’s storage limits.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
Interesting that someone could look at a normal (albeit unpleasant) veterinary procedure and immediately think of beasiality.