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  • fckreddit@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Am I supposed to be impressed? I have a PhD level intelligence and I am not exactly impressive.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You missed what they meant. It means gpt5 is really good at one arbitrary and extremely specific topic. Anything else it’s comparable with a random person on the street.

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Reality is the opposite though. GPT5 is expert in a pretty wide amount of trivia. It’s better than the average uneducated person in every subject, but worse than an expert in every subject.

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      • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Anything else it’s comparable with a random person on the street.

        I’d say we’re actually worse than the average person at everything else. Too much of our brain is allocated to our research.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I still count and do math with my fingers and still fuck it up. I guess they’re just like us. 🥲

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      • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I would like to see you count 1.33 + 3.25 on your fingers. 🙂

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      • arctanthrope@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I do that and I have a BS in mathematics. and in 4th grade I literally used to write “I hate math” at the top of my math homework. as much as primary education systems want it to be, computation speed is not mathematical aptitude. you can memorize multiplication tables up to 20, that’s not gonna help you understand Cantor’s theorem

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    • FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LMAO right.

      This PhD = Genius trope needs to end.

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      • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How much of that is the fault of colleges? All that shit about requiring science majors to take liberal arts classes or art majors taking calculus to make them “well rounded.” A bachelor’s degree is supposed to be a mark that you’re just all around better educated than someone with a mere high school diploma, to the point that “It doesn’t matter what you major in, just get a degree” is somehow valid advice. But a doctorate is awarded for a significant work of original research; a Ph. D. means you’re the world’s foremost expert in some tiny corner of a sub-discipline, kind of the opposite of being “well rounded.”

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    • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right? I know more shit than some people on some topics…and less shit than other people on other topics.

      Expertise might be what they were going for…but they can’t say that because AI can’t have expertise on anything.

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      • fckreddit@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Expertise is about knowing what you don’t know, just as much about what you know. The terms like “PhD level intelligence” are meant to mislead people. LLMs cannot understand simply because they are just statistical parrots. Only fools blindly trust output of LLMs.

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  • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most people have PHD intelligence. They just don’t have the motivation, need or care to do all that fucking work to get it.

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    • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be honest, as I chat with more and more random strangers these days it does begin to dawn on me that we all do roughly spend ~70 years on this planet devoting our attention to one thing or another, and that though people might not have what is seen as “classical intelligence” (i.e. high IQ’s, political savvy, high empathy / sociopathy, etc.), we are genuinely absolutely genius’s in one particular field or another.

      For example, I had an old roommate whose politics would make me drink and stare at the horizon whilst he consistently acted against his own self interests to punish people he was told are responsibly for his financial lot in life. But, he was an absolute wizard when it came to predicting the outcome of a sports game. It could be anything, he immediately ran their stats straight off the top off his head, summarized their strengths and weaknesses and came out with an outcome that was on the whole close to the truth.

      Another example, my ex. We never really had deep philosophical discussions about the state of the world, and her consumerist lifestyle was one I tried to actively ignore. But, she was incredible at turning a house into a home – her interior design skills would genuinely surprise me at how well-thought out and in-depth they were, not only in terms of style and decor, but also in the way that she would execute and coordinate the tasks with me to beautify our home.

      TL;DR – I do really think most people have high intelligence in one specific field or another, we just value people unequally using classical measures of success (wealth, education)

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      • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If your roommate was so good at predicting the outcome of sporting events, couldn’t he have used that skill to fix his financial situation, rather than blame others?

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      • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have a PHD in interior decorating too!

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    • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      … or the money to go on that journey

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      • FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe it’s just my field, but every PhD program I’ve seen, applied to, attended, sent attends to, etc… was basically paid for, outright. Mostly it’s a matter of moving, which is a gigantic bitch.

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    • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no they fucking don’t

      I would not be surprised if a simple majority of Americans were functionally illiterate at this point. 5 years ago it was over 1/7 in my state and let’s just say I don’t live in the deep south or midwest

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      • lib1@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s not a matter of capacity though. Most kids are able to learn to read through immersion and almost all of the remaining kids can learn through appropriate intervention. This is why literacy is largely a policy decision rather than a matter of aptitude.

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  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To obtain a PhD, you need to contribute something original to your field of study, not just regurgitate what you’ve scraped from other studies.

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    • bigfondue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it spouts out enough nonsense something will be right eventually

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        GPT5 is gonna monkey a new hamlet?

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ceos are so obsessed with this and thinking it can replace doctors in diagnosing people too.

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      • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe not replace, but some flavour of AI is already pretty good at analyzing patterns on x-ray images and stuff like that which might be significant help to doctors in the future. Obviously not the glorified autocorrect Altman is running with hype-money, but actually useful neural network things (or whatever they really are, I’m not one building them).

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  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The word ‘intelligence’ doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline.

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    • MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can I eat this uranium GPT5 physicist?

      Of course you can. Since it’s flavor is a little metallic, you might want to grind it and use it as a seasoning with your preferred dish.
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      • Dadifer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You can eat anything once.

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  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hate the way the media makes this problem so much worse by incorrectly describing LLMs. They can’t “have intelligence”. They are incapable of any kind of thought. The “intelligence” of GPT1 and GPT5 are the same, in that neither have any. They are complex computational algorithms designed to generate text from prompts. That is absolutely not the same thing as thinking or knowing things.

    There are entire cults springing out of the ground believing LLMs to literally be thinking feeling beings 💀 we are so beyond fucked.

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    • BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can say the same thing about an ant or a slug. I don’t think the philosophy of what intelligence is is as cut and dry as what you say.

      I agree they’re pretty stupid, but I wouldn’t say they’re zero on a scale of zero to human. If an llm type algorithm happens to be some part of the human intelligence algorithm then an llm has some fraction of intelligence

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just a few… more… trillion dollars! And all your drinking water.

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    • FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And slave labor, not only to build the hardware, but to view the mountains of CSAM and other heinous material to build the “guardrails”

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PhDs themselves aren’t very smart. They’re just sheets of paper. 🤷‍♂️

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is a thing smart if it holds knowledge?

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They also talk about evolution when they keep deploying the same tweaked architecture.

    They’re also talking about data centers in space, while being too cheap to use anything but evaporative cooling + gas generators on Earth.

    I did some math on, say, launch costs for an Earth-data center sized installation, or the area needed to radiatively cool it, and it is fun. Those space construction startups know what they’re doing. They’re playing billionaires for fools; and it’s working.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      youtu.be/XS5rbLBflaI

      Capitalism is a cult.

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      That’s just wealth redistribution /s

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those space construction startups know what they’re doing. They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      Guess I should have gone CHA instead of INT.
      I might have gotten some of that billionaire money to buy more RAM.

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      Look, I’m not saying it’s a good thing. In fact, it would be an insanely wasteful use of resources, labor, energy, etc.

      That said, folks are all about “eat the rich” and this may very well be the closest thing to that.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Scam the rich,” perhaps?

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  • phaedrus@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Intelligence or Hallucinations?

    you keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means

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    • Glytch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What drug do I need to take to get PhD level hallucinations? The ones I’ve had so far are at best GED level.

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      • phaedrus@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Be an alcoholic for a few decades?

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      RIP

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PhD is not even a “level of intelligence”.

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    • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well it's a phrase for those of "not-PhD" level.

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    • matlag@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s ok. This is intended to people with clueless-decision-maker intelligence level.

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PhD level of sufficiently regular but transient discipline and hyperfocus.

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  • notreallyhere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    so it still won’t know how to make me a sandwitch?

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just want it to cook for me and clean my goddamn house.

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      • notreallyhere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’d settle for laundry and dishes

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      • tacosanonymous@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For real. I want Rosie the Robot not HAL 9000.

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    • Today@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can it get the trash into the trash bin and the recycling into you recycling bin? The intelligent thing in my house is lacking in this area. Also, with changing the toilet paper. Who’s working on these important issues?

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  • markovs_gun@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel like I’ve been hearing this stupid “PhD level intelligence” claim about every LLM that’s come out since ChatGPT was first released, including GPT-3.0 which it launched with. It kind of amazes me that people keep falling for it and not questioning how the new model having “PhD level intelligence” is both a true claim and also noteworthy when the claim is made about every new model.

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    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Iv met enough phd holders to know that they can and frequently are still unabashedly wrong on the vast majority of everything they talk about that isn’t hyper specific to a narrow and niche topic.

      So phd level intelligence to me just means it’s more prone to the being confidently wrong and judgemental.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        sometimes they are outdated if they have been doing projects or research for a while too.

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    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It will analyze and parse primary sources with all the discernment of a pure math PhD! Design bridges with all the insight of a literature PhD! Diagnose medical problems with all the experience of a supreme court justice!

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why is that image giving the same vibes as:

    Image

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    • chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      why do they look like gelflings?

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      • Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Disney contract.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        just looks like a fusion of these 2(scarlet witch)

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  • WanderWisley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me: “Hey GPT-5 Ive been diagnosed cancer.” GPT-5: “Have you thought about using cocaine and essential oils!”

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes! But I still have cancer

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  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Based on the fact that they’d give someone like me a PhD, this comes as no surprise. But it’s not saying as much about GPT-5 as a lot of people might think.

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  • mavu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know at least one Ph. D. where this could very well be true.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sam Altman wants to raise babies using AI.

    Never forget.

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  • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    GPT5 was an effort by OpenAI to reduce costs. It is not smarter than the latest GPT4 models.

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  • Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Someone with a PHD isn’t inherently more intelligent than other humans. They are able to put in the time and effort to become a subject matter expert in a field.

    I get that it’s all buzz, but they simply don’t understand human intelligence, how can they even dream to replicate it. AGI is a myth.

    My wife is currently writing her dissertation. So no shade to PHDs.

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  • Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you take me as the reference PhD, then it’d be stupid as fuck.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As someone who has a PhD and self identifies as a dumbass I can confidently say, it is not a high bar

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  • RustyNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They said that for v3.5 lol

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  • Greg@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe she meant PDF level intelligence

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    does that mean it’s also going to have PhD-level depression

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  • y0kai@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    it’ll know all about cellular biology and not be able to operate a cash register.

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  • SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know a dude with a PhD in Computer Science who’s far-right and his sister is a psychiatrist who thinks conversion therapy works lol lmao

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  • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Work in Academia … I’m not sure this is a high bar.

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  • ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I still really doubt the ability for LLMs to develop new knowledge and experiment to prove its accuracy. They do a below average job at spitting out existing knowledge but creating new information that isn’t already on Wikipedia or elsewhere on the internet is something else beyond their scope.

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  • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Intelligence” is such a dumb word. 

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  • groet@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes. “PhD” level intelligence. Not PhD level intelligence. The quotes are part of the word. They are not optional.

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