Inspired by a friends current vacation

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• ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is a very inefficient method of telling everyone that you don’t know how to camp for shit.

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  • CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, you should definitely have a massive hangover in the morning, too

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    • SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t understand drunk hangovers. Drink water. Then you don’t have hangovers. That’s it.

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People that don’t enjoy sounding might not want to do it for reasons other than lack of skill. Same with camping.

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    • erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but if someone says “I hate sounding, stabbing myself in the balls sucks!” you’d have a pretty good idea that they are doing it wrong. There’s a difference between “I hate activity, it’s not for me” and “I hate activity, I actively participate in it in a way that is easily avoidable and will make me miserable.” It’s just a meme, let people discuss it lmao

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• LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Skill issue

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I say the same thing when people say they don’t enjoy taxidermy because of the dead animal aspect.

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• Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Go to bed earlier

  Never leave your tent open longer than the time necessary to get in or out of it.

  Store your equipment in sealed containers when not in use (make sure to wash and dry it first!)

  Self-inflating sleeping pad + better tent location solves the painful and damp sleeping conditions.

  You can have an equally bad time staying at a hotel, if you do it wrong too.

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• Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This entire post reads "I don’t know how to camp/go backpacking.

  Get yourself a travel air mattress or sleeping pad, probably a better sleeping bag. Solves the lack of sleep and sore back.

  Get a proper tent that’s water proof and learn how to set it up properly so water doesn’t pool under it. Make sure the vents have good mosquito netting to keep bugs our, and never have the entry unzipped a second longer than it takes to get in and out of.

  For the mice, don’t have food in unsealed containers and if you’re in bear country you should be hanging a bear bag at least 100 feet (30m~ ) from you campsite, make sure cook wear and utensils are all properly cleaned too. Some newer tents even have a pouch built in near the door to seal a bag into, minimizing the chance of something deciding to make it a new home.

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  • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All this.

    I went camping in MN when it was 27 degrees F overnight a month ago. Slept like a baby. Nice and cozy. It was really nice. Camping is great if you do it right.

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    • Landless2029@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Were you freezing?? Propane space heater? Really good tent and sleeping bag?

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  • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hang my food and cooking kit even when I am not in bear country because I don’t want a raccoon to destroy hundreds of dollars in gear.

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  • Jtskywalker@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you are bringing an air mattress, you’re probably car camping and may be able to leave the food / cooler in the trunk.

    Once in Missouri I went camping with my parents and they love to cook at camp Tons of chopping boards, utensils, etc were left out overnight, which attracted dozens of raccoons. They had the coolers secure but it was still wild to see. Rookie mistake from people who actually have a lot of experience.

    Also, hammock camping can be very comfortable if you have an under quilt and tarp

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are backpacking air mattresses.

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• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So many fragile campers in the comments. It’s ok if people don’t like your hobby. They might not find it worth the time, money, and effort to “get good”. You don’t have to defend the things you like from people who aren’t into it.

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  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would normally agree with you on the “get good” sentiment being obnoxious to deal with but…. nature doesn’t fuck around. People who go into the wilderness unprepared can and do die.

    It’s not just bears and starvation that can kill you. You can get sick, get infections, get poisoned, get frostbite, hypothermia, heat stroke, and many other afflictions that will either ruin your trip, ruin your life, or kill you if you’re unlucky enough. Even just something as simple as scraping your knee on a rock can give you a staph infection that costs you your leg, a risk that can be averted just by wearing a pair of jeans when walking in the woods.

    But besides all that: camping is way more enjoyable when you do some basic research, make a plan, and do the basic preparations you for the plan to be successful. If you’re not willing to do that then you probably shouldn’t go camping in the first place!

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You sound like every other comment I’m talking about. You’re patting yourself on the back and saying um actually camping is fun. Again: you don’t have to defend your hobby from people that don’t like it.

      Also, saying you gotta do everything right or die makes camping sound even worse.

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  • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your dozen comments suggest this is pretty important to you. I take it you’ve suffered in the wilderness at some point? If so, my sympathies! A rough night outdoors can be genuinely awful.

    But the “fragile” campers aren’t crying because they feel insulted - they’re just trying to share information about their hobby and hopefully help people like you not hate their lives if/when they venture into the wilderness.

    It’s not like fucking sounding or taxidermy, but those were hilariously silly analogies, so thanks.

    It’s more like someone making a meme about a video game that basically boils down to “this game sucks because I skipped the tutorial” and you’re out here saying “yeah but the game is torture.”

    You don’t have to camp! It’s genuinely not for everybody, and that’s okay! But many people love it, so try not to be so down on others for the things they love and for trying to share their hobbies with others.

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  • erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How dare anyone engage in conversation about the topic of the post! I might accidentally SEE an opinion I disagree with!

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is kinda what it feels like, yeah, that the pro-camp camp can’t accept that some people don’t like camping.

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  • TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s also entirely reasonable for people to roast you and tell you to git gud when you make a whole ass post about it though. Right?

    It’s like those posts about turning 30 and your body falling apart immediately. No, you’re probably doing something very wrong, that’s not normal. We can point you in the right direction and you can choose to ignore it, that’s fine. Nobody’s really being fragile here.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right, it’s just as silly when I do it as all the commenters come in to defend camping.

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  • courval@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not when everything OP mentioned is lack of skills. One thing is to not like camping other is doing it completely wrong…

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you don’t like sounding, is it because of a lack of skill? Because it’s fun actually, you’re just doing it wrong. You should buy the right equipment and learn how to do it right. It’s one thing to not like it, but have you even done it correctly?

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  • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Where are these comments?

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s a good faith question. Blocking you.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh wow, you’re really passionate about not liking camping.

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• 5in1k@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t want to camp either if I was the kind of person who doesn’t plan ahead and also crumbles at the slightest inconveinience, I don’t want people like that camping with me either so go ahead and stay home please and thank you.

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, I have a wonderful time camping, but it’s because I’m experienced enough to know what to pack. If it’s cold, a small cot (to get you off of the cold hard ground) and foam sleeping pad (to insulate your underside) will do wonders. Or if it’s hot, just string a bug net over a hammock, and you’ll sleep cool and breezy.

    Also, don’t underestimate the value of a good solid meal. Some of my best meals have been made in the middle of fucking nowhere, with nothing but a Dutch oven, my pocket knife, and a campfire. It’s hard to feel upset about camping when you’re noshing on the best bowl of soup you’ve ever had.

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    • 5in1k@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m making stew for the camp tomorrow. It’s always so good.

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You sound like enjoyable company.

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    • DevilOfDoom@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know who isn’t enjoyable company? The fucking idiot who made the original post.

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    • 5in1k@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am if you’re not whining. I’m an absolute peach.

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    • erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Which camper hurt you? You’re through the entire comments with a massive chip on your shoulder lol

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  • Bunnylux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok I will thanks

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Someone wasn’t t in the scouts.

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  • Pnut@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seriously. Mice? Are they homeless?

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• underline960@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I used to hate camping for this reason.

  Then I learned how to set up a hammock. It’s (roughly) the same amount of effort to set up, but I actually sleep better than in a bed.

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  • ThisOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Switching to hammocking made a huge difference for me!

    Eventually I did the AT and hammocked almost every night. Only drawback was leaving my pack outside overnight and picking off the spiders and insects in the am.

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    • Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You mean picking the spiders from you or from your hammock?

      I case of the former, there are mosquito nets for hammocks. I use them when I go wild camping with my hammock almost every time.

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  • brown567@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I use a portable cot with a mattress pad, it’s quite comfy =)

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    • 5in1k@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I love my backpacking cot, sets up in like 2 minutes and I’m off the ground and can lay comfortably anywhere, I like to lay by the fire before bed at night, it’s perfect.

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  • trungulox@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tangentially related: setting up hammocks in my living room was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It’s so comfortable.

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  • Kowowow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s pretty much the only way I get a decent nights sleep while camping, even with a great air mistress my back gets sore

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    • EvilFonzy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but air mistresses give really good blow jobs! I’ll let myself out…

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• spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tell your friend to gitgud

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• Jtskywalker@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love camping, and have had some great trips in the rain. Can be very comfy even with a backpack setup if you know what you’re doing.

  That being said, this is hilarious.

  And at least you have enough unsolicited advice to make it more comfortable if you want to go again 😅

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  • TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most of these can honestly be solved by getting a hammock with an integrated bug net, an underquilt and a tarp if it’s raining. You can get like all of that for ~$200 brand new that’s half decent. Onewind makes some pretty alright stuff for the money.

    I don’t think I’m ever sleeping on the ground if I ever get a chance.

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• Goltbrook@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When I was like 7-9 I went on a “camping” trip with my football/soccer team.

  Really, we were just putting up tents on the field we usually practiced at after some very tame river rafting.

  It was the first time I was away from my parents. And I was inconsolable. I cried most of the night. To the point the supervisors offered to call my parents so I could talk to them. (And mobile phoning someone back then was not cheap),

  In the end I just cried myself empty.

  Because I was asleep so late, I slept into the morning and my “tent mates” pulled down the tent around me while I was sleeping.

  So I woke up in drizzling rain, lying in my sleeping bag on a thin plastic sheet with no tent around me. While all my “friends” were in the club house having breakfast.

  I did not stay in the soccer club long after that.

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• Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The only thing I really struggle with is shitting in the woods. Everything else is manageable.

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More fiber.

    Also, if you wait long enough, it won’t be a struggle.

    Depending on how far you need to travel, just bring a 5 gallon bucket with a hole cut in the bottom. Flip it over and shit through the hole. Portable toilet.

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    • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t necessarily mean struggle with the act, it’s just the nature of it.

      I like plumbing, I’m particularly attached to it.

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• match@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  all of that and yet somehow i feel better than ever

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• RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hated camping as a child because I had no say in where, when, or for how long. As an adult I’m not camping alone as a woman. My husband would just die in the wilderness, it’s not kind to a guy with cerebral palsy.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I enjoy it even when it’s not wilderness camping-- drive up to a site with a level of facilities you’re comfortable with (toilet, sinks, etc), have a little bbq, do some stargazing, sleep with some nature sounds, drive home. I know those kinds of places aren’t near everyone but camping doesn’t have to be bushwhacking or backpacking.

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    • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was lots of tents and pain until my mother said absolutely not and then it was a lot of KOA sites. That was fine! I wouldn’t mind like…being in a remote cabin.

      I want indoor plumbing. We worked hard to invent that as humans, I respect it.

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• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s definitely an experience rather than a vacation sort of thing. I like it

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• Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I detest camping. I've camped in a number of places and it has never been good. I don't care if it's the rolling Mongolian steppe greeting me in the morning, it's still horrible.

  I like floors.

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Which is why I upgraded to an RV/Camper. The smallest, lightest I can find.

    I don’t mind being outside, cooking, eating, everything else. But I want a floor and a bed for sleeping, along with kind-of-solid walls.

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    • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That sounds about where I'm at. I'm happy to spend all day outside and I prefer to be barefoot in general. But I want a bit of floor for sleeping on. Far too many nights spent in perpetually soggy tents!

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• PoPoP@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You wouldn’t have made it though the paleolithic era bro. You don’t have the survival instincts ᵃⁿᵈ ᵃˡˢᵒ ᶦᵗ ˡᵃˢᵗᵉᵈ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ³ ᵐᶦˡˡᶦᵒⁿ ʸᵉᵃʳˢ ᵒʳ ˢᵒᵐᵉᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᵃⁿᵈ ⁿᵒᵇᵒᵈʸ ʰᵃˢ ᵉᵛᵉʳ ˡᶦᵛᵉᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ˡᵒⁿᵍ ˢᵒ ᶠᵃʳ

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I dunno, I like my chances. Been living so far and the trend is continuing in the right direction to survive that long

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    • PoPoP@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I said so far cause I think that in like 150 years science will have advanced enough to make the quadrillionaire oligarchs undying and unkillable

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• Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is why you day hike and sleep in a hotel.

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• trungulox@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I fucking hate camping so much

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• Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like to set my tent up in the lowest elevation spot I can find too.

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  • Zenith@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I live in the PNW, it’s like nature conjures up clouds to place directly over any campsite. People here act like the rain makes it better and will tell you to bring your own blue skies, a blue tarp to hang over all your stuff

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i stopped going camping when i moved away from home. good riddance.

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• rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s a meme but you just tickled my autism.

  It gets better with every single trip. I remember my first wilderness backpacking. Horrible. No sleep. Anxiety. Sun stroke.

  Hundreds of trips later I sleep out of my backpack than I do in my apartment in the city. Every time you go out you dial in your gear and strategy a little more.

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  • SirQuack@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like your meme because it discourages other people to try it.

    Huh? You just said the meme is relatable and if you do go camping and this happens you could do a ‘goddamn, I should’ve known’.

    It’s hard enough to get permits for certain trails!

    Ah, so you’re just selfish

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    • rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People destroy nature, that’s just sadly how it is

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    • DrownedRats@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hoenstly, if youve ever seen a favourite spot or trail get absolutely overrun by instagram tourists and the general public youd understand that feeling.

      Theres beautiful spots in the peak district that get so clogged up in the summer that youve got cars parked up and down every single road in a 10 mile radius.

      Ive volunteered with groups that do weekly litter picks at some of these spots and trails and we’ll often run out of bags.

      I dont think its selfish to wish these spots just never got discovered by the public. As soon as one of these beauty spots gets big, its a losing battle against the general public and everyone who wants to make bank from them

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• Bunnylux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate camping too lol, but I like staying in nature in a little cabin or lodge haha

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• epicstove@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Homelessness, but fun.

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Stealth camping is a real thing, where people try to scout spots to stay overnight without getting caught.

    But unless it’s coming from a specific part of France, it’s just sparkling homelessness. It’s really just a bunch of rich dudes who like to cosplay as homeless.

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  • GluWu@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Stealth camping is just recreational homelessness

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• Sunflier@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s two types of camping: (1) outdoor camping, which is the shitty one ; and (2) indoor, which has pillow forts.

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Was your tent just a sheet over a single string?

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you’re in a hammock, a tarp overhead (and maybe a bug net around the hammock) is often all you need. You’re off the ground, so you don’t need to worry about water runoff. And sleeping in the open means there’s always a breeze to keep you cool, even on a warm rainy night.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  For me, camping is fun the day after I get home and have already had a shower, a good sleep, and put everything away.

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• omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Camping is a blast. Pair it with fishing for a really good time

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• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Jon suchs at camping LOL

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• Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  At least your friends weren’t trampled by a moose.

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