Why do people Google questions anyway? Just search “heat cast” or “heat Angelina Jolie”. It’s quicker to type and you get more accurate results.
In heat
Submitted 2 weeks ago by benni@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because that’s the normal way in which humans communicate.
But for Google more specifically, that sort of keyword prompts is how you searched stuff in the '00s… Nowadays the search prompt actually understands natural language, and even has features like “people also ask” that are related to this.
All in all, do whatever works for you, it’s just that asking questions isn’t bad.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Google is not a human so why would you communicate with it as if it were a human? unlike chatgpt it’s not designed to answer questions, it’s designed to search for words on webpages
nyctre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just tested. “Angelina jolie heat” gives me tons of shit results, I have to scroll all the way down and then click on “show more results” in order to get the filmography.
“Is angelina jolie in heat” gives me this bluesky post as the first answer and the wikipedia and IMDb filmographies as 2nd and 3rd answer.
So, I dunno, seems like you’re wrong.
howrar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Have people just completely forgot how search engines work? If you search for two things and get shit results, it means those two things don’t appear together.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
both queries give me poor results and searching “heat cast” reveals that she is not actually in the movie, so that’s probably why you can’t find anything useful
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
That’s why you just add “movie” to the search.
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Search engine algorithms are way better than in the 90s and early 2000s when it was naive keyword search completely unweighted by word order in the search string.
So the tricks we learned of doing the bare minimum for the most precise search behavior no longer apply the same way. Now a search for two words will add weight to results that have the two words as a phrase, and some weight for the two words close together in the same sentence, but still look for each individual word as a result, too.
More importantly, when a single word has multiple meanings, the search engines all use the rest of the search as an indicator of which meaning the searcher means. “Heat” is a really broad word with lots of meanings, and the rest of the search can help inform the algorithm of what the user intends.
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Why use many word when few work
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You won’t get funny answers if you do it correctly.
warbond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As a funny challenge I like to come up with simplified, stupid-sounding, 3-word search queries for complex questions, and more often than not it’s good enough to get me the information I’m looking for.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It works. It will also find others who posted that question.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Until they worded it as “Does Angelina Jolie appear in heat?”
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why do people Google questions anyway?
Because it gives better responses.
Google and all the other major search engines have built in functionality to perform natural language processing on the user’s query and the text in its index to perform a search more precisely aligned with the user’s desired results, or to recommend related searches.
If the functionality is there, why wouldn’t we use it?
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
that is true but the results will be the same at best, not better
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Wouldn’t removing your ovaries and fallopian tubes make you not “fertile” by definition?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, it contradicts itself within the next couple of sentences.
nickiam2@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
I think the trick here is to not use Google. The Wikipedia page for the movie heat is the first result on DuckDuckGo
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
You can also search Wikipedia directly.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
PSA for Firefox/fork users, click the button to the left of the search bar after clicking blank space in the search bar, you’ll get a list of choices besides just your primary selection. You can add more:
___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yup, using the bang !w anywhere within the search
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
if anyone using ddg, you can do this by just adding !w for a direct Wikipedia search, or even !imdb for a direct imdb search without going to the respective sites first.
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I use duck duck go as well. I wish it wasn’t just anonymised Bing search. One of these days I’ll look into an open source independent search engine.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I haven’t used Bing in a while but I alternate between Ecosia and DDG, supposedly Bing as their main provider. I find more and more differences between them nowadays so I do feel DuckDuckBot and Qwant partnership are doing their thing. I’m optimistic about both of them broadening their sources as they state in their websites.
arin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
try Gibiru.com ?
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
DDG also has a quick answer AI
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 hours ago
and its implementation is so massively superior to anything else i’ve seen that it makes me want to bang my head against the wall
their AI just has a list of vetted sources which it relevant articles from and summarizes the text according to your query, so it actually fucking cites sources that you can easily verify and it’s unlikely to just hallucinate nonsense. It also has the ability to go “yeah idk man, try changing your query maybe” if it can’t find a relevant article to pull from.
Oh and since it uses actual sources it can easily be corrected if errors are noticed :OOOnickiam2@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
Its does, but its less annoying and actually has an off switch
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It does?? I was using Brave because it had AI
(And also because so many websites are censored on DDG for some reason)
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think the trick is to put the word “movie”
otacon239@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It also contradicts itself immediately, saying she’s fertile, then immediately saying she’s had her ovaries removed.
SARGE@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Is it considered normal to type out a normal question format when using search engines?
If I were looking for an answer instead of making a funny meme, I’d search “heat movie cast Angelina Jolie” if I didn’t feel like putting any effort in.
Then again, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve seen someone use their phone to search google “what is 87÷167?” instead of doing “87/167” or like… Opening the calculator…
People do things in different, sometimes weird ways.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
It depends on the person in my experience.
For instance, I’ll often use a question format, but usually because I’m looking for similar results from a forum, in which I’d expect to find a post with a similar question as the title. This sometimes produces better results than just plain old keywords.
Other times though, I’m just throwing keywords out and adding
“”to select the ones I require be included.But I do know some people who only ever ask in question format no matter the actual query. (e.g. “What is 2+2” instead of just typing “2+2” and getting the calculator dialogue)
0range@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, the way that i would do it is to look up the Wikipedia page for the movie Heat and go to the cast section.
I always do things like this and it can actually be to my detriment. Like that time i went to Reddit to ask them what that movie was where time is a currency, and somebody pointed out that i could have just googled “time is money movie” and it would have immediately shown me In Time (2011).
Also, when i want something from an app or website i will consult the alphabetical list or look for a link to click, instead of just using the search bar.
I don’t know, somehow it never entered my brain that search bars are smart and can figure out what you meant if you use natural language. Even though they’ve been programmed that way since before i was born
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I sometimes ask questions, and sometimes I’m forced to because the original answer somehow misinterpreted my query. I also do searches like you mentioned, but I don’t exclusively do one of the other.
LePoisson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is like the difference between normal and right. Like I know a ton of people normally search for answers by putting full questions in. With the advent of LLMs and AI being thrown into everything asking full questions starts to make more sense.
For actual good results using a search engine, for sure what you said is better.
serenissi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How can she be fertile if her ovaries are removed?
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because you’re not getting an answer to a question, you’re getting characters selected to appear like they statistically belong together given the context.
howrar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
A sentence saying she had her ovaries removed and that she is fertile don’t statistically belong together, so you’re not even getting that.
Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
And the text even ends with a mention of her being in early menopause…
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
NGL, I learned some things.
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
People Google questions like that? I would have looked up “Heat” in either Wikipedia or imdb and checked the cast list. Or gone to Jolie’s Wikipedia or imdb pages to see if Heat is listed
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
doesn’t matter, this is “AI” and it should know the difference from context. not to mention you can have gemini as an assistant, which is supposed to respond to natural language input. and it does this.
best thing about it is that it doesn’t remember previous questions most of the time so after listening to your “assistant” being patronizing about the term “in heat” not applying to humans you can try to explain saying “dude I meant the movie great”, it will go "oh you mean the 1995 movie? of course… what do you want to know about it?
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
We all know how AI has made things worse, but here’s some context on how it’s outright backwards.
Early search engines had a context problem. To use an example from “Halt and Catch Fire”, if you search for “Texas Cowboy”, do you mean the guys on horseback driving a herd of cows, or do you mean the football team? If you search for “Dallas Cowboys”, should that bias the results towards a different answer? Early, naive search engines gave bad results for cases like that. Spat out whatever keywords happen to hit the most.
Sometimes, it was really bad. In high school, I was showing a history teacher how to use search engines, and he searched for “China golden age”. All results were asian porn. I think we were using Yahoo.
AltaVista largely solved the context problem. We joke about its bad results now, but it was one of the better search engines before Google PageRank.
Now we have AI unsolving the problem.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
I was okay with keyword results. If you knew what you were dealing with in the search engine, you could usually find what you were looking for.
DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is why no one can find anything on Google anymore, they don’t know how to google shit.
ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone in this post is the annoying IT person who says “why don’t you just run Linux?” to people who don’t know how to install a new OS in the first place.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Installing a whole new OS is not good comparison to browser. We all downloaded chrome using internet explorer at some point before.
ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You are included in my initial assertion
Bongles@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe that’s why ai had trouble determining anything about AJ & the movie Heat, because she’s wasn’t even in it!
alexaralvarado@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Leaving aside the fact that this looks like AI slop/trash bait; who the fudge is so clueless as to think Ashley Judd, assuming that she’s who they’re confusing, looks anything like Angelina Jolie back then
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
First, it’s the internet, you can cuss. Either structure the sentence not to include it at all or just cuss for fuck’s sake. Second, not everyone knows every actor/actress or is familiar, especially one that’s definitely not in the limelight anymore like Ashley Judd. Hell even when she was popular she wasn’t in a lot.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
How do you know that OP even saw Heat?
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I am watching the movie Heat and…
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In short: BONK
It probably thought you were Elon Musk.
cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Why is the search query in the top and bottom different?
doug@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Ashley Judd looks nothing like Angelina Jolie.
Retreaux@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s hilarious I got the same results with Charlize Theron with the exact same movie, I guess we both don’t know who actresses are apparently.
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Deepseek also gets this wrong.
jaschen@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I never heard of the movie and was enjoying the content you created that I thought was supposed to be funny.
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
ddg isn’t really any better with that exact search query. all ‘fashion’ related items on the first page.
you get the expected top result (imdb page for the film ‘heat’) by using simply: angelina jolie heat
primemagnus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It was Natalie Portman.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s not helpful for OOP since they’re on iOS, but there’s a Firefox extension that works on desktop and Android that hides the AI overview in searches: addons.mozilla.org/…/hide-google-ai-overviews/
Glifted@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
gingernate@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think Gemini is “in heat”
daerion@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Google was fine as it was before, now it does shit like this. I hate how AI is shoved down our throats. And the results on google nowadays feel so much worse and generic than a few years ago. That isn’t just a feeling I have, right?
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Add obscenities to your search for the most optimized results. It drops the AI component and seems to provide the more direct results we used to get.
MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I just get X-rated results.
iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Add …in my ass to your last search query.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
They’re an ad company that just happens to offer search as a way to show ads.
Their ideal scenario is one where you search forever and never find what you were looking for.
officermike@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not just you. I feel like search modifiers like “NOT” or “OR” haven’t been working for a good long while either.
ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
They stopped supporting booleans in 2013. Glad you’ve finally noticed.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Really? Felt like Google jumped the shark quite awhile before this even started.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
It been a downhill slope that just keeps getting steeper. They’re basically falling off a cliff right now, and their parachute is improving AI.
jasep@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Append ?udm=14 to your Google search results
youtu.be/qGlNb2ZPZdc
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not opening that Rick Astley link, thank you.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d rather use anything else
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
One of the reason why I advice people to switch to Ecosia or DuckDuckGo