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Starbucks continues to be terrible

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨workreform@lemmy.world⁩

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  • cubism_pitta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just some fun basic math for everyone…

    $96 million / 1000 (workers) = $96,000

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    • hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Want a worse number? Back in 2019, the price of commodity was at less than a $1. Starbucks, at the time made up 3% of the world’s production. They decided to give $20m to their farmers. Did it help? Well based on available financial data at the time, $20m was approximately single afternoon’s profit for the company. A SINGLE FUCKING AFTERNOON! sprudge.com/starbucks-would-prefer-you-dont-think…

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, but that’s irrelevant, just an accidental “post-” fact.

      I think more relevant basic math is that the got a 2.6% bonus in terms of annual net income.

      The other 97.4% of labour just goes to shareholders (“landlords” of the financial system).

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    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      🍽️🤑

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  • hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just so people are aware, Starbucks was caught buying from farms in Brazil multiple times that used slave labor. In Guatemala, along with Nestle, were caught buying from farm(s?) that used child labor.

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    • underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is this the same nestle slave labor case that went to the Supreme Court where nestle was successfully defended by a former Obama staffer or have they done this more than once?

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    • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Their retail products have the claim “100% Ethically Sourced”. That is a lie.

      That all depends on which ethical code you’re referencing for your statement. I 100% believe that Starbucks sources according to their corporate ethical standards.

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      • fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s not how words work. Don’t give them an inch, even as a joke.

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      • hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I am unable to find a news report now, but I am certain I read one back in 2018 or 2019. I believe that Conservation International (an organization that helped develop the C.A.F.E. standard the company uses) was discovered covering up the certification of one of the farms in Brazil. As I remember reading, that a farm was at the time listed somewhere as being certified but after slave labor was discovered, CI uncertified the farm and attempted to claim it failed to meet the C.A.F.E. standards, thus never was awarded certification. They weren’t saying the certification was revoked; it never had any.

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Do you have a source for that? I want to read more about it.

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      • hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Here are three different reports regarding three different instances in Brazil. news.mongabay.com/…/slave-labor-found-at-second-s…

        news.mongabay.com/…/slave-labor-found-at-starbuck…

        …org.br/…/starbucks-slave-and-child-labour-found-…

        Here is one on the Guatemala incident. theguardian.com/…/children-work-for-pittance-to-p…

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  • Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Remember when Ford had an amazing performance growth, made record profits, then laid off a huge amount of people and moved more business overseas. Nothing like capitalism to fire you when you’re down and fire you when you’re up!

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    • RejZoR@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Or sharing profits among the leeches when it’s going great, but when shit goes down they are begging for help from government and firing people. How about you not instantly take out profits but you build resillience through reserves and preparation? Lol, who am I kidding, milk the cow till it’s dry and then make beef patties when it stops giving milk.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just for perspective here,

    1000 * $15/hr = $15,000 / hr

$96,000,000 / $15,000  / hour = 6,400 hours

6,400 hours / 40 hours / week = 160 weeks

160 weeks / 52.17857 weeks / year = 3.0663929655412174 years

    They could afford to keep those employees on for another 3 Years with that amount.

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    • QualifiedKitten@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Was it baristas that were laid off or office workers? Minimum wage for their corporate headquarters is a bit over $20/hour, and I’d suspect very few corporate employees are making only minimum wage.

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That might be fair, but “laid off” has the sort of vibe to it that they didn’t get to choose. Also, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 and the minimum wage in Washington state, where starbucks HQ is located is $16.66 so yeah definitely would have to rework the math based on location of the layoffs.

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  • FreddyNO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So he literally stole their salaries. We can’t put up with millionair ceos anymore, it needs to be outlawed…

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is the guy that commutes from LA to Seattle on a private jet?

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    • jballs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, same guy who fired nearly everyone at the Chipotle corporate office in Denver so he didn’t have to commute.

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      • DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m just amazed no one goes Luigi when shit like that happens…

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      • DerArzt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s…man I hope you’re wrong as that’s awful.

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    • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      OC to Seattle, but yes. The guy didn’t want to relocate from Newport Beach, so they bought him a jet to make his weekly “commute.”

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      • P1nkman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Wasn’t it daily commute?

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I don’t get it. We did not let kings and lords and counts keep their belongings. Why are we treating this scum any different?

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      In the time of kings and lords, it got way, way worse than this.

      Not saying we should wait that long now, just saying.

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    • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Capitalism has no face to punch

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      • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It has many!

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  • laurelraven@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They could have paid every one of those employees nearly 6 figures instead. If the company is doing so badly that they feel they need to lay off a thousand people, they should not be handing out CEO bonuses, period.

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    • DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Pretty sure a good portion of that was union busting, but that’s what we’re all about now.

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      • laurelraven@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This would not shock me in the slightest

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  • Billybob22@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Don’t use Starbucks anymore. It’s American

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    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Don’t use Charbucks anymore. It’s shit coffee

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  • stopforgettingit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is the same douche canoe that was the CEO of Chipotle and denied that the serving sizes were getting smaller and told people to just harass the worker making the food if they thought their serving size was to small.

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    • ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also the same guy trying to green wash plastic waste to be customer responsibility while commuting on a private jet from Southern California to Seattle.

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    • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wait we had permission to do that? I thought I was just being a dick and telling them to “keep going”. What a relief, too bad I won’t go back.

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  • StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s $96,000 per layer off worker

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  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    96 million could pay the salaries of basically 2000 baristas

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    • sneaky@r.nf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Probably how they determined the amount of the bonus. His idea, he got a cut.

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Shop local. It’s just coffee. Don’t let the marketers tell you any different. For sweet creamy syrupy treats go to the ice cream store. Let’s not support the current system of the bigwig at the top who does very little and reaps most of the rewards.

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    • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Plus ordering there takes 3x longer than if I just made a coffee at home. They are not convenient unless you are traveling and have no access to a coffee maker.

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    • drathvedro@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But the local shops are often treating employees that starbucks couldn’t possibly get away with. Source: ex who worked 14 hr shifts at 4 different places for a couple months each and came out at net negative.

      There are some nice places though, where oftentimes barista is the owner, and not just some stupid rich kid trying his hand at entrepreneurship.

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    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Hell even my regular coffee shop does most of the milkshakes fancy coffees that Starbucks does.

      I drink black coffee but they do look really good

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  • hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s absolutely no way he’s adding enough value compared to Joe MBA to justify that compensation.

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    • okamiueru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s what I’m trying to do understand as well. What’s the explanation for these kinds of things? What’s the actual sequence of events and how conditions that lead to these things? Why would the board approve of this kind of compensation?

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      • ArtVandelay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

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  • Gudl@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So who will be the next Luigi?

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    • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m hedging my bets on a Mario. Let’s a go! 🎲🎲

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What’s the second worst industry in America after health care?

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  • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Friendly reminder, comrades: There is no such thing as a good billionaire. From the East to the West, they are humanity’s enemy.

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    • elfin8er@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “Good billionaire” is an oxymoron like jumbo shrimp. You can be good, or a billionaire but not both. If you were good, you wouldn’t have a billion dollars.

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    • irreticent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Happy Cake Day!

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  • Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Boycott what you don’t like. Vote with your money.

    Haven’t spent money in a Starbucks for over a decade…nor fast food chains, nor Walmart.

    Did do a few Amazon purchases a few years ago and I still feel guilty about it.

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    • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve literally only bought two things from amazon, ever. I feel bad about it to this day :/

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    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you for defeating starbucks for us. It’s wonderful to know that this news story didn’t happen thanks to your valiant efforts!

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  • MooseyMoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There ain’t no smile in those eyes. Creepy AF.

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    • theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You have to be willing to exploit your fellow humans to get where he is. Either you don’t have a soul to start with or it gets torn to bits every step you take up the ladder.

      I’ve known people like that. I’ve been very close to people like that. It’s crazy, everywhere they look they’re looking for some win/something they can take. They never feel guilty. Honestly, the only thing they feel is betrayal when someone won’t bend the knee.

      That’s my little observation.

      Sad thing is, they still have people who love them but they aren’t truly capable of reciprocating. Everything is transactional and they always expect it to be profitable for them. The only thing that truly hurts them is when it isn’t profitable. It sucks being caught in their orbit too. Believe me.

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      • MooseyMoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        My brother was a sociopath, unsuccessful in business but a user and abuser.

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    • DerArzt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Mr. Beast smile

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  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I worked there back in the early aughts. It actually was a cool retail job that paid reasonably well, a few dollars above minimum, and you got company stock, benefits, a free pound of coffee a week or box of tea, you were invited to company meetings, free drinks on shift, and we did all sorts of cool volunteer stuff, like with the food bank and habitat for humanity, and we would do coffee tastings at events, all sorts of things. It honestly was a fun job lots of the time. It’s so sad it’s turned into trash.

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  • Eddbopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I have never gone to a Starbucks and I never will. It’s not that hard to do that. They will never get even a penny out of me.

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    • SippyCup@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fair warning, if you’re brewing coffee at home it’s still possible to buy Starbucks.

      Most of the coffee at Costco is just rebranded Starbucks beans. A lot of dark roast coffee is secretly shitty Starbucks beans. If it smells like cigarettes at any point, you’ve probably got Starbucks coffee.

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      • Eddbopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What if I told you, I don’t drink coffee.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Shouldn’t Costco warn people if they’re gonna sell burnt ass coffee beans though?

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  • dragonlobster@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Looks like Luigi got another flag to reach

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Starbucks gives the new CEO a $96 million bonus, then a month later, lays off 1,000+ workers Potential Luigis.

    FTFY.

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  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So weird to pay someone that much.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Shifting “blame” on these white-collar police dogs (megacorp CEOs) instead of shareholders (and the system demanding growth) only needs to happen when everyone understands that 96m is on 3.760m of net income (2024).

    So if 1k people were let go all of them could have gotten 1m of bonus and still the company would have made almost 3bn.

    But they were let go bcs yoy income (but not revenue) was lower last year, and the financial markets demand a sacrifice (literally any action, even of not actually needed, just to send a signal they are ‘on it’).

    The usual “efficient” meat grinder stuff.

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They are hired assasins. Like how they had special officers in WWII to commit the massacres

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Cap the maximum compensation gap (including bonuses and stocks) between the highest paid and lowest paid person in a company at 1000:1. Any overpay goes into a UBI account that pays out equally to all.

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  • dumbass@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If someone Luigi’s him, they better spell his name wrong on the bullets.

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  • Jimius@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And it’s just mediocre coffee anyway. Roasted too dark just to keep a consistency in flavour between locations. Starbucks is a tax dodging lifestyle brand, they could start a clothing line and make the same money as they do selling coffee.

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  • Coffeegrinder@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Gets invited to meeting with manager. Employee orders coffee for the meeting Manager says, his coffee will be “To Go”

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  • JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I haven’t seen someone with so punchable face

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