I still find it crazy its a “request for leave” which they can deny rather than “im not coming in today, I need to go to the hospital”
Maybe, just maybe, a company that refuses to give you time off if you have a bullet inside of you is a really really shitty company
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breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 months ago
thejoker954@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Request for leave is for longer term absence.
Still shitty
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
„I am not coming in until at least the xx.xx.xxxx as I am still sick.“
There you go. That’s how it works here. The employer can then collect the doctors confirmation online.
After six weeks it requires a bit more effort, as the employer no longer needs to pay wages and you need to apply for sick pay from the insurance, which is 70% for up to a year and a half.
The very thought of an employer not allowing you to be sick is just ridiculous.
Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
We’re burning the wrong Amazon
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Appropriate, as Amazon is one of the major companies trying to have the NLRB,which gives unions a modicum of pushback against corps, declared “unconstitutional”. Id expect a full press on that in the fist year if successful, id expect major portions of the NLRA itself to be targeted.
Lots of blood and sweat and tears of the 19th and 20th century being washed away right now that will have to be shed again to get these rights back.
AshMan85@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m pretty sure this is D.O.G.E. mai. Goal
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
The dept of efficiency has two leaders. You can’t make that up.
Poxlox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Dumb Oligarch Grifter Elon?
QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world 4 months ago
An Amazon spokesperson told HuffPost on Friday that the denial was due to an error in Scott-Windham’s time off request and said she has the company’s “full support.”
What sort of reasonable “error” could possibly deny something like this?
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s the “we didn’t expect the news to pick this up and start reporting on it. We don’t want this kind of bad press” error.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 months ago
Really though it does sound like a retarded mistake I don’t think anyone was sipping on a whisky, smiling and hitting the deny button.
It’s clearly an automatic deny button.
leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
The sort of error that only occurs when it might become bad PR.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The small error that when they decided to violate FMLA laws, they didn’t realize anyone was watching.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 months ago
“Bad, bad, BAD, naughty mega-corp!! That’ll be…$5000, megacorp!”
–The justice system, probably.
Halosheep@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I don’t know how Amazon works but I imagine it’s some sort of form submission and she chose the wrong option.
Don’t think that makes it okay, time off requests should be considered by a human who actually interacts with the employee, in my opinion, but I can see it happening. Dealt with that when I worked for Walmart. I definitely got a few days off that I submitted through the automated system online and have no idea if anyone ever approved.
spacesatan@leminal.space 4 months ago
My entire impression of HR at amazon warehouses is HR is there to onboard new hires and occasionally act as an equivalent to t1 tech support. You go to the amazon worker subreddit and about half the posts have comments like ‘yeah just call corporate HR they’ll fix it’ because site HR fucked something up.
Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 months ago
It’s a PR lie to save face.
The same thing insurance companies say when people go to the media about them.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 months ago
She made the error of neglecting to go public.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
If only workers could band together and use their collective bargaining powers to improve their treatment.
gingernate@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
But this is how the socialists and commies win!!! Oh… Wait… Yeah
Hupf@feddit.org 4 months ago
Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The taft-hartley act already subdued them.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
If they can just ignore money regulations with cryptocurrency, then we should make a wildcat strike coordination app. Somehow.
They won’t protect unions at all anymore, so we have no incentive to cooperate with the state. It’s become purely a tool of the wealthy. (🌎👨🚀🔫👨🚀?)
brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t understand this language? What is a request for time off? I am informing you I will not be there. There is no request.
InputZero@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Request denied. We are informing you that should you choose to ignore your contractual obligations by neglecting to perform, we will be forced to recover any potential damages because of your actions through binding arbitration. We thank you for being part of the Amazon family and your continued dedication to our family.
brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Mark as spam
bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Exactly.
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
laughs in america
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What wonderful country do you live in and can we all move there?
heroheman@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think its called “the Rest of the Western World”
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Even if it’s a weird computer or paperwork fluke, it’s emblematic of the company, so there’s no version of this where they don’t go fuck themselves.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I’d deny a leave of absence as well… But I’d leave her on the payroll.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 4 months ago
This is one of those open and shut FMLA violations that even shitty companies can’t get away with though and they know it.
The lady will be canned one way or another once they get back to the office because they violated some bullshit policy about how you can’t talk to the press or some bullshit. Will probably take a couple months and involve a PIP for “poor performance”
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Very few Amazon warehouse workers qualify for FMLA. They intentionally have a system designed to use up people and spit them out in just under a year so they don’t qualify.
There are entire industries of low-skill jobs that intentionally try to keep worker retention low to keep from having to comply with labor laws.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If she’s been there less than a year or worked under a certain number of hours in the last year she doesn’t even qualify for FMLA.
Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I was just laughing at the absurdity in robocop rouge city where a corporate announcement says “reminder, a gunshot wound is no longer basis for time off unless it requires overnight hospitalization…”
Godnroc@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“… for time off without an approved request two weeks in advance.”
You need to let them know, need to find someone to cover for you, and need a manager to approve the request.
wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Having a job where you’re responsible for dealing with a cover gives me the work ick.
Bro, I’m sick. Take the L and live without me, nothing is my problem today. I can’t live on pins and needles about going in when I’m dying just because I can’t find a replacement. Or being terrified that my day off might belong to someone else who needs cover.
That’s just a hostile workplace imo. The instant I feel like shit I instantly don’t gaf at all. Just calling to say I won’t be there is already annoying and work-like enough.
Granted I’ve only had jobs where I was a replaceable cog (well, mostly replaceable-made myself pretty knowledgeable) so it wasn’t like I had individual-specific responsibilities and clients that would be put out or anything.
But work life balance kinda depends on not having to only get sick when someone else feels like voluntarily covering. That shit is oppressive af in my eyes.
wieson@feddit.org 4 months ago
"The wrong amazon is burning."
- quoting some comment I read somewhere
4vgj0e@lemmy.world 4 months ago
shplane@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you still use Amazon, you’re supporting this kind of capitalism
jagungal@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Unfortunately it’s very difficult not to support Amazon indirectly because they make a lot of their money from AWS, which a large fraction of the internet runs on.
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
don’t let perfect be the enemy of evil. punching back a behemoth corporation whose policies actively hurt people is significantly better than just letting them steamroll you.
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
better late than never, cancelled my subscription last week!
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Thankfully I’ve managed to buy any sorta niche stuff I needed from literally anywhere else.
A cursory glance at Amazon revealed it’s basically a bloated corpse stuffed with trash at this point.
I’d put more trust in careful Ebay shopping to avoid straight-up fakes anymore.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Despite lemmy thinking CEOs are useless, they’re usually the most important person in the company because they set the tone. That tone rolls downhill. Show me happy or sad employees, I’ll tell you what kind of leadership they have.
Bezos set the grind culture when Amazon was starting, and that’s fine for a startup, what has to be done. But he never backed off, and now we get shit like this, 100% on him.
Sometimes you have to grind at a shit job to work your way up, I get it. But there appears to be no level at Amazon where you’re not under the gun.
Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But why should anyone have to grind at a shit job? If your business can only survive by grinding people down, maybe society would be better off without it. If the only way we can get same day delivery is over the burnt-out, permanently injured ex-employees of a multi-national, is it really worth it? Maybe that start-up never should have made it. Maybe strong labor laws should have forced them to scale back their ambitions or close their doors.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I don’t wanna just say “this”, but for real, excellently put.
“But we just have to abuse people for a little while until…”
Then it’s not a viable business model. Easy as that.
Cooperatives are a thing, and they work, they just don’t scale like cancer by generating hype-funding over destroying their employees, so they don’t drum up so much excitement from the moneyed.
orcrist@lemm.ee 4 months ago
You can’t make this shit up. Reality is so horrible, especially with mega corporations.
Etterra@discuss.online 4 months ago
I wonder how many lawyers are offering her their services? Because that sounds like a slam dunk lawsuit if I’ve ever seen one.
uhmbah@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Is it America? Is it an at-will state? Where you can be let go at any time, for any reason. Corporations over people. COP. All cops are bastards. All corporations are bastards.
See, it all works out in the end.
We are all bass turds.
Fish shit in the water. Totally unsiftable. Totally fucked.
God save America.
From itself.
This, brought to you from Canada. Who is about to be next in the new global fascist “catch and release” system.
Catch democracy, release democracy.
Like a parent with an errant child. And the parent is too lazy or incompetent to stop the child from hurting itself. And bringing the parent down with it.
Oops.
/rant
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Good rant. Sorry from this side of the border, I still can’t fully believe so many of my countrymen voted for the villain
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Slam dunk how?
What employment laws are they breaking?
stoly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Is Alabama. She’s got no chance
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s a federal law they’re breaking. The state doesn’t matter.
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Got it. Understood. Any and all Amazon representatives will continue to function after being shot.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if an AI handled the schedule.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Remember remember the 5th of December…
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
As soon as I read “Alabama”, somehow the rest of the news became unsurprising.
lurch@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Bezos needs her to suffer more
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The news article: nola.com/…/article_f985df4e-c965-11ef-8ec3-a3bc3
Archive copy: archive.is/LlfQu
HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 months ago
She’s been fucking shot, the hell kind of work do you think she’ll do?
Alpha71@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Got Dam! 2025 said “And fuck you in particular” directly to her face.
morgan_423@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I haven’t seen actual articles talking about it, just people tweeting about it.
But if this event actually is what’s being reported on the surface, then this is the most constructiest dismissal that ever constructively dismissed.
woodenskewer@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I feel like a good bit of people don’t understand how FMLA works.
An FMLA violation would be dependent on if the FMLA claim was even opened which usually falls on an insurance agency not your company. You can’t violate something that hasn’t happened yet, right? A request for time off is not the same as using time available on an intermittent or continuous FMLA claim. No one has an intermittent claim for medical leave in case they are shot and hit by a truck lol
So even in a normal circumstance of not being shot say you’re taking care of an individual at home. You open an FMLA claim. But you still have to call off. You try and call off but it’s denied because Ricky the dick from packaging is already off. Well you’re obviously not going in so you get points either through an automated process or a supervisor with no spine that won’t exercise discretion in the name of floor coverage. In the meantime you call your insurance agency responsible for your company’s FMLA claim handling and they process your claim. Once your claim is approved by a case manager and supporting documents then your points go away and you can choose to consume paid time off or have excused unpaid absences and any point accumulated from this leave is negated.
This tweet was captured on 1/3/25. Today is 1/4/25. Claims do not process this quickly to have the potential of being violated.
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Only the public school system will let you get off to die.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Alabama eh. If she’s guzzling down the Orange Kool-Aid, I have zero fucking sympathy for her work related problem.
positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Seeing things like this I find it weird there aren’t more Mario bros around in the US.
Potatisen@lemmy.world 4 months ago
He was an oddity in America. Most Americans don’t have the ability to go from keyboard to action.
They can barely muster enough oxygen to make the thought they need to write down in the first place. America is a bizarre place.
Damage@feddit.it 4 months ago
They seem quite able to shoot up schools and run over pedestrians tho
Bwaz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Or for a huge proportion, vote
zergtoshi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sadly reminds me of Wall-E in some way.
underwire212@lemm.ee 2 months ago
You don’t need most though. Even 0.001% is plenty. Come on people.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You’re surprised there aren’t more people capable of being unemployed for months who are also able to walk around with $10,000 cash after building an expensive gun and buying multiple bus tickets and staying in New York City for days?
rayyy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Give it a little more time. When the militia folks realize that they have been had they won’t be happy.
Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They’ll just be duped again into how it’s the liberal’s fault. I’ve lost my expectation that anyone may follow a course of logic once their mind is set.