Looks like something straight from Warhammer 40K
Submitted 5 months ago by merari42@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 months ago
I went to a crypt in Britain as a kid, can’t remember where tf it was, but I still remember it because it was super interesting.
It’s where I learned about Trepanning and how they did it back in olden times to “let the bad spirits out” and it actually worked because it reduced swelling around the brain by giving the blood a way out.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 months ago
We still do that today, just with thr patient under anesthesia so they dont freak out about uaving a hole drilled in their skull.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Ha, cool.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
capucin- prefix comes from the Latin for “hood,” and by synecdoche means “monks” (who wear hoods)
Cafe Cappuccino has the same roots.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
This is correct. There’s actually a little plaque that has this explanation on it before you go into the crypt.
It’s this funny little Latin lesson before you descend into skeleton catacomb are confronted with the living memory that you too are temporary.
pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
synecdoche
I didn’t like that movie.
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Yeah, that one is definitely a sight to see, if you can stand looking at dead people’s bones.
FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 5 months ago
if you can stand looking at dead people’s bones
I much prefer it to looking at alive people’s bones
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I’m fine with them. I went through that whole catacomb and then went through the others.
They have a lot of bony vaults and tunnels and catacombs in Italy
p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not even common loot? Man this game sucks
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Nah, just snagged a couple skulls.
Theme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
“Hey, who turned out the lights?”
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 months ago
In a helmet, suit and everything, holy shit.
halvar@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Just watched that episode for the first time and somehow it didn’t even occur to me
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 months ago
I bet it isn’t really Magdalene.
TheRaven@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Chances are, it isn’t. The early Catholic Church did a lot of this kind of thing, where they would claim to have a piece of the cross, or a bone of St Peter in a church. It was just to drive tourism into their churches. If you took all the claimed pieces of the cross and assembled them, it would make far more than one cross.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 months ago
Not only early, they did such things in medieval times too.
Argh, what was it again. I’ve read about something the catholic church used in switzerland in 14. or 15. century for this.
yemmly@lemmy.world 5 months ago
How much?
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 5 months ago
As someone who grew up in a Muslim country, I have to say, Westerners this is some weird shit man. Like, call the police weird. We are supposed to be the barbarians yet you get to have skull thrones and shit? WTF?
retrospectology@lemmy.world 5 months ago
All the Abrahamic religions are death cults. It’s just as morbid as muslim sects that force women to dress head to toe black robes or w/e. The extremism just becomes part of the scenery when you’re around it, but it’s all objectively bizzare.
Like think about it, these religions were literally invented by bronze age goat herds who thought the earth was flat and covered by a dome, and people in the modern day still believe in them. It’s literally group insanity.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 5 months ago
How to say that you have no idea about Abrahamic religions without saying that you have no idea about Abrahamic religions.
The Bronze Age ended around 1200 BC. 1200 Before Christ. Most of the prophets of the Torah are estimated to have lived around 1000 BC up until Jesus was born. Mohammed s.a.s. lived in the 7th century AD.
Also if your argument is that something originating in the bronze age is bad, i recommend you to stop using metal tools, eat bread and cultivated fruits. Obviously no beer and while you are at it reject math, astronomy and most of architecture. All stuff originating in the Bronze Age.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The whole point of religion was to keep the psychopaths in control. Sometimes you had to throw them a bone to keep them in line.
nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 5 months ago
ha.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Religion is heavily intertwined with barbarism. The West/Christian countries have dumped more than their fair share on the world.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The alleged skull of Mary Magdalene.
merari42@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I like Martin Luther’s polemic about relics: “How many pieces of the true cross are there in the world? How many thorns from Christ’s crown of thorns? How many nails from the crucifixion? There are enough nails to shoe all the horses in Saxony. And if all the relics of the saints were gathered together, there would be enough bones to build a ship and enough wood to boil all the water in the sea.”
In that sense it’s one of Mary Magdalene’s many heads.
TheKingBee@lemmy.world 5 months ago
IDK their religion allows straight up substitution magic, they turn wine and crackers into pieces of their dead god. Why can’t thorns and pieces of wood turn into the implements that killed him?
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
She is the hydra.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If you sewed together all the fragments of Jesus’s foreskin, you could go skydiving with it.
Justas@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
“Of the 12 apostles, 18 of them are buried in Spain.”
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
She is the hydra.
Holzkohlen@feddit.de 5 months ago
Sure it is. Let’s just pretend there is no monetary incentive for a region to have a holy relic which brings them a bunch of tourism. Ain’t nothing holy under capitalism.
TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Every single consecrated Catholic altar contains a relic of a saint. Usually they’re pretty small, maybe a piece of a fingerbone or something. You’re right that a good one like this would bring in lots of pilgrims (tourist dollars,) but it’s a tradition that way predates capitalism.
I’m not in the business of defending the Catholic Church or capitalism, just wanted to clarify.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 months ago
Socialists don’t see a fundamental difference between a king or church owning the means of production and a merchant/capitalist/whatever owning it, because there isn’t a significant difference. Adam Smith was observing truths on the nature of property ownership and how to increase the gains from such, not describing the idea of rich and powerful people owning property that would make them money by exploiting the value of labor. That idea is as old as agriculture.
Where it might get tricky is if the gains from owning the “relic” were funding welfare programs/charity more than they were funding the excessive lifestyle of the clergy, but that’s not something Catholics are particularly known for living up to, responsible usage of tithes and actually following the precepts of ascetism in the clergy.
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You shall make no idols to yourselves; and you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or a memorial pillar. And you shall not set up any image of stone in your land in order to bow down to it. For I am Jehovah your God.
He went pretty ape shit about the golden cow—as believable any part of that story goes. Catholics seem to be all about idoloc knick-knacks and getting all stabby and controlling over them… Like, the opposite of what a Christian is meant to do.
Technus@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
That’s one of the fundamental disagreements between Catholics and Protestants.
A Catholic would argue that veneration of saints isn’t worship, it’s showing respect for someone who exemplified Christian ideals, or died as a martyr. Canonization is basically the religious version of the Medal of Honor.
A Protestant would argue that the distinction between veneration and worship is arbitrary, and veneration of a saint essentially amounts to idolatry anyway.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I see people praying to a specific Saint all the time. Are they supposed to be the middle man between you and God? Didn’t Jesus die specifically for that?
ameancow@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And here I am over here, an agnostic absurdist, just laughing at the silly monkeys.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 months ago
[deleted]MintyFresh@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think that’s what a lot of people miss is the trade/political aspect of schism. While I’m sure millions held genuine beliefs, it’s hard to understate the economic reality of the church in those days. Huge land holdings, an ancient web of power and obligations reaching into every life, every transaction, every political appointment. When it became conceivable to break with this system, it was broken. This breaking was Consequential. Hence the centuries of warfare and strife. It’s all about that money honey.
mholiv@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m a secular person now but as a formally very religious person I know a bad Bible translation when I see it.
Assuming you a referring to Leviticus 26:1 a better translation from the NIV is:
Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
Given this I can see how Catholics can justify having statues and art and the like.
In case you don’t like the NIV here is a meta comparison.
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ah, we were taught to avoid the NIV as it was like the Merrium-Webster of translation; a bit more adapted for the modern Pentecost, so obviously it would be lenient compared to traditional translations.
edinbruh@feddit.it 5 months ago
But saints are not gods, they are more like emissaries. You pray for them to bring your word to God.
But in the end, religious beliefs don’t make sense anyway, so why bother analyzing contradictions. Faith is based on believing without needing proof, so any logic reasoning against religion fails against that statement.
samus12345@lemmy.world 5 months ago
redempt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
exactly where my mind went
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Blood for the Blood God!
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That Jesus guy sure is a bloodthirsty one.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hideo Kojima: Hmmm
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Something I always love to add to these sorts of threads:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles
It expresses the view that the current aeonic civilization is that of the Western world, but it claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the “Magian/Nazarene” influence of the Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, which it calls the “Imperium”. According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a galactic civilization to form, in which “Aryan” society will colonise the Milky Way.
It’s beyond heresy.
creditCrazy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s a lot of fantasy settings id like to live in but Warhammer is not one of them especially anything imperium related
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
IDK that Taussy be looking real tempting.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Lots of child abuse going on related to O9A, theyre evil fucks
volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 5 months ago
It’s beyond heresy.
Well ok but this ONA has nothing to do with Christianity, they explicitly state it’s a militant Satanic left-hand path occultist network. I mean being Satanic kinda goes hand in hand with heresy.
As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in “mystery and legend”, creating a “mythical narrative” for its origins and development. The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or “temples”
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For sure, I totally agree with what you’re saying. I was only using the word in the 40k version where nearly everything is hersasy, not the sensible version of the word youre using.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I want a late 90s RTS portraying galactic battles between the nexions of this lunatics.
Something like dune2000…
I imagine a sci fi version of the London’s police and the INDD (Intergalactic Net of Drug Dealers) should also be added as factions
Zozano@lemy.lol 5 months ago
I don’t know how the Christians see this and think anything other than “this is some evil shit”.
ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I don’t know how Christians read the Old Testament and think anything other than “This is some evil shit.”
Zozano@lemy.lol 5 months ago
I don’t know how Christians eat the flesh and drink the blood and don’t think anything other than “I’m in a fucking cannibal cult”.
MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
The book of Job is wild, I remember as a kid thinking this is my god?
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Make an animatronic out of it.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Insert a 1 euro coin and the skull will sing your favorite hymn.
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Make it the meme Skeletor quotes and I’m in.
halvar@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I hear that’s been an issue of debate in the Vatican since around the 70s and one of the cardinals is very keen on summoning a council to settle it.
user1234@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
I never realized she was an astronaut. They don’t teach you that in Sunday school.
burretploof@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s metal as hell- I mean, heaven!
rozodru@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Looks like something the Deacons of the Deep would be protecting right next to the massive empty tomb.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 months ago
The Moment i realised the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
yemmly@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And I’m supposed to believe people paid good money for a blowie from that face?
Actually, nevermind, I believe it.
sirico@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Even in death I still serve
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Why not just add a calf somewhere?
Iloveyurianime@ani.social 5 months ago
Imagine that place being abandoned and a explorer accidently shining light on that skull…
Hugin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
40K does loves to grab imagery from old christian imagery for the Imperium.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 months ago
That’s so punk
solomon42069@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It looks like it’s gonna give the Doctor and the TARDIS a hard time this week.
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Dontputyourdickinthat
nowitsabby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Where do you think 40k got it
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Luther was not friendly