Submitted 13 hours ago by IEatCeleryAt7Degrees@lemmy.world to [deleted]
I don’t feel non-drugged until well after 6 PM. I’m sleeping very well. I even tried caffeine pills and even caffeine doesn’t budge the “just come to under general anesthesia” feeling. People have also noticed that I’m moving slowly.
Am I just getting old?
Did you have covid? Long covid has made people lethargic and I have some friends who still only recently fully recovered.
Either way this is serious issue and you should see a doctor. This is not normal aging.
Doctor. Go to the doctor. You need to see the doctor. This is not in anyway normal. See the doctor. You need to see the doctor. Go see the doctor. This is a medical issue and you should see the doctor. See the doctor.
Doctor. Now.
Right like off the top of my head we’d literally be screening op for cancer like severe fatigue with sweats and relatively sudden onset a few years ago this is bad bad bad bad bad OP might already be dead.
Do you have a carbon monoxide monitor? If not, get one ASAP.
+1, this sounds like a medical issue and not at all typical aging
As someone with sleep apnea, you have sleep apnea. You feel like that because your brain is not getting oxygen.
There’s no way you can make a reasonable diagnosis from a 100 word Lemmy post, and don’t so might be putting someone in danger.
I think this wording is too strong, but I indeed ctrl+f for apnea. OP should do a sleep study.
“I’m sleeping very well”
People cant assess themselves for sleep issues, you are asleep, you cant tell whats happening. If you have central apnea you might be ‘waking’ 30 or 60 times per hour and never have a clue its happening. But the side effect is you never get to the recuperative level of sleep the body needs.
This.
People with apnea say CPAP/APAP are life-changing.
They are not exaggerating.
Well, I think I can asses that I don’t sleep well. When it takes me hours to fall asleep, then I wake up at 3am and can’t fall back to sleep for an hour or more.
I’m pretty sure some people can assess themselves for sleep issues…
Honestly, talk to a health professional if you can. That doesn't sound normal.
Not pregnant, I saw my doctor starting September last year, they repeated blood tests from then to last month, and they told me my bloods are normal.
Keep going back. It sucks but this generates a history of chronic ailment and is what will get the issue escalated for other testing or seeing specialists. If you are in the US this is especially important in order to get insurance to cover things, and specialists typically have a long waiting list. If you need one get on that list ASAP.
Doctors will do that a lot - send you for blood tests and then give up once they come back normal. You need tests beyond your standard blood test. I have narcolepsy and no doctor ever brought up getting a sleep study, my parents actually did. You should push for a sleep study since this sounds like it could be a sleep disorder. If it’s not, you gotta advocate for yourself and push for answers because a healthy person does not feel that way after a good night of sleep.
Sometimes, generic tests are shallow, you’d need another tests
Omg go to the fucking doctor?!? No “could be B12 but I’ve been getting supplements” NO. Wtaf are you doing? If it’s not B12 you would know because the doctor checked and your b12 was normal. Wtf are you doing asking the internet?
Do you have to communicate like this?!
See your doctor. This is not normal aging. Getting a Hypothyroid diagnosis can take years if you are one of the people for whom the blood test is garbage. Insist that your doctor get the full T4, T3 testing done. Sleep apnea is also one that can be hard to diagnose but leave you feeling fatigued.
You don’t have a husband or live in partner that might be drugging you? In this day and age, it isn’t as far fetched an idea as it once was.
To tag onto the partner drugging you- had ur drinking water changed? Construction nearby or mold growing somewhere? My town water is currently potable but for a little white had too much haloacetic acid. It came under federal guidelines and was considered drinkable but fluctuates with rainfall amount, and fed guidelines are pretty generous anyways and not the best metric.
The last thing you should be doing is consulting Lemmy.
See a doctor.
You need to see a doctor and get blood labs to start figuring this out. If the first doctor dismisses you, they may be suffering from Female Symptoms Dismissal Syndrome and you should try another. Could be anything, including something serious like MS.
Nope! I'm older than you and that doesn't happen. You probably need blood work done? I went through a time when I was exhausted constantly and was like "this must be middle age" but I had low iron and vitamin d.
I’ve had blood work done, my urea and white blood cells have consistently been low since at least September last year (I kept having them repeated by my doctor) but I thought that might be to do with me getting older since your immune system decreases with age.
They didn't do any followup? Low white blood cells for that long can indicate some stuff that should at least be checked for. Your doctor should also know if those numbers are normal for your age. Did they make any suggestions? 32 is genuinely still young.
Your test results, plus fatigue, without an accompanying protein, vitamin, or nutrient deficiency, seems to indicate an infection of some kind, possibly in the liver or kidneys. Some environmental factor is also possible.
Your combination of test results and symptoms seems a cause for concern. I would consider asking your Dr. about it, possibly getting a second opinion.
32 isn’t old I mean if you had said 60 then I would have told you you got a problem but age isn’t it!
Go to the doctor!
Are you allergic? Food allergies are a beast and as little as a 0.001 gram can trigger it, making you feel like shit for days.
Now, go to the doctor!
I’m just trying to help, so please don’t take this the wrong way, but what are you eating and drinking? It could be “healthy” stuff or it could be crap making you feel this way. My best advice is to try and figure it out now, because it won’t get easier. Food sensitivities seem to be brushed off because they’re not bad enough to kill you, but the damage can add up over time.
As someone with massive sleeping issues - no, that is not normal.
As @alienzx@feddit.nl mentioned, it might be sleep apnea. make audio recordings of your sleep - it should be pretty obvious the moment you are able to get the first breath in again, it will probably be a pretty noisy event. If you have apnea: DONT DELAY SEEING YOUR DOCTORS. This condition causes brain damage over time, you dont want to wait this one out.
If it isn’t that, get your bloodwork done, there’s a load of things that might be an issue.
People have also noticed that I’m moving slowly. I don’t drink alcohol, so this isn’t a hangover. It started rather gradually but is getting worse.
This symptom here is the most concerning. There’s no way doctors are hearing that symptom and telling you everything is fine.
Are you the same user who posted about feeling this way and chalking it up to being over 30 years old and a woman a month ago or so?
I saw replies saying you got a TSH test done. While this is the “gold standard” used for testing thyroid function, it’s easily misleading. TSH levels are somewhat relative and do not tell the whole story. Doctors often label subclinically low TSH as “normal” but you may not feel normal.
The way hypothyroidism is diagnosed is dogshit these days and it’s quite common (1/4 women, more common as you age). If you have only seen an MD and one who is not specialized in endocrinology, I would get a second opinion. My experience is that nurse practioners and DOs are less likely to take this seriously.
While it’s possible it’s something else, I wouldn’t rule our hypothyroidism strictly from TSH. You can also request a wider thyroid panel that tests free/total T4 and T3, plus thyroid antibodies such as TPO. TSH only tests for the hormone telling your thyroid that your body needs hormones, it does not test for the hormones themselves. Additionally, it does not test for whether you have a thyroid autoimmune disease. This could lead to all your symptoms.
I’ve been through this struggle and known plenty of others who have as well. Modern doctors underdiagnose the disease because of they leave it at a TSH test and will often shrug you off with a vitamin D prescription. Go to someone who specializes in this, check your symptoms against those of others and pay particular attention to how they describe how they feel. Trust your intuition about your own body and what feels normal.
Brain fog, body aches, feeling cold all the time, lethargy, waking up feeling like you can never get enough sleep or like your brain is awake but your body isn’t, depression, hair loss, weight gain, poor appetite…these are all signs to look for, but unfortunately are shared with many diseases. You thyroid hormones control so much of your energy and everything surrounding it.
If this ends up being the problem, you can take a simple and cheap thyroid hormone replacement daily and everything will improve. There are natural and synthetic replacements, if you are put on one type and don’t like it, try the other one. Synthetic T4 and T3 or armor thyroid/natural pig thyroid (contains T1-T4).
Good luck and I truly hope you can find how to feel better!
Keep trying with your doctor, get another doctor if you need to. Doctors, even female doctors, are notorious for dismissing women’s health complaints.
Change doctors as many time as you need. It’s fucked up but one will listen
peri- menopause? IANAD and am a male
Are you absolutely certain no one is drugging you? Do you consume something every day that ANYONE else prepares for you? Try going a week living like Madeye Moody, only eat and drink things you make yourself, from groceries YOU buy, from a store you don’t normally visit.
Do you have a gas water heater, oven, or furnace? Do you have a carbon monoxide detector? Is it mounted low on the wall? Have you tested it recently?
Do airplanes fly over you often? Do you or anyone you know use firearms often? If yes to either, when is the last time you had a blood lead level test?
It could be a vitamin or nutrient deficiency. A routine blood test at the Dr. can rule this out.
Yes, I have two carbon monoxide detectors.
I prepare my own stuff, I don’t have people cook for me.
This happens regardless of if I’m sleeping at someone else’s or at my house.
And no to both.
I’ve had bloods tested repeatedly since September and they told me it’s normal.
Good, that rules out a bunch of serious stuff a lot of people don’t think about.
Others have already given better advice, I’m just trying to brainstorm some of the less-likely possibilities.
Airplanes and firearms are the most common, but not the only form of lead exposure. Lead and heavy metal toxicity can take months of non-exposure to correct and wouldn’t show up on a normal blood test. It might be worth getting a blood test specifically for lead and other heavy metals like cadmium, palladium, and cobalt, especially if anyone you know works at a muffler shop or something.
The only other thing I can think of is maybe Radon, especially if you have a basement or other area in your house where air doesn’t circulate well. That wouldn’t necessarily show up on a blood test either. Radon test kits are cheap, but I think some of them require lab processing so look at for that if you decide to buy one.
Either way, I’m older than 32 and don’t have the same problems you describe. It’s definitely not “just getting older”.
Unfortunately, male doctors often don’t take women’s health issues seriously. I’m not sure how much you like and trust your current doctor, but a second opinion from another (possibly female) doctor may be a good idea.
32 is way too young for those issues to be normal. Honestly the symptoms you describe sounds like a thyroid issue to me. When’s the last time you saw a doctor and had some bloodwork done?
Apnea tests immediately.
At the very least get or borrow any kind of smart device that can measure your SpO2 while you sleep. If it dips anywhere under 90, get the apnea test IMMEDIATELY.
people should be aware there are 2 kinds of sleep apnea and sometimes you can have both of them, like me.
This is not normal, and you should definitely go see a doctor. Soon.
Have you been tested for sleep apnea? Might also belong COVID.
Sounds a lot like sleep apnea to me, people need to be aware there are 2 kinds and sometimes you can have both of them.
No, this is not a normal part of ageing.
Shot in the dark here, but consider L-methylfolate supplements. It’s the methylated form of folic acid. Your symptoms line up extremely well with someone who is suffering from non-methylated folic acid, due to a mutation on the MTHFR gene.
Basically, your body can’t use folic acid as-is. It needs to methylate it with an enzyme (turning it into L-methylfolate) before it becomes biologically available. And there is a gene mutation that causes you to stop producing that enzyme, the same way you become lactose intolerant when you stop producing the enzyme to break down lactose. It usually happens in your late 20’s or early 30’s, so you’re right in expected timeframe for it to happen.
It’s not on most doctors’ radars, and testing folic acid levels on a blood test won’t help, because you probably have plenty of folic acid. Your cells simply can’t access it. So it tends to fly under the radar.
The gene mutation is especially common in people who are AFAB, autistic, or Irish. I know because my wife is all three, and has the mutation. You can buy supplements on Amazon. Most people with the mutation take about 15mg of L-methylfolate per day, but suggest starting with about half that in the morning. It will likely keep you awake (and maybe give you a headache, oddly enough) at first, so start with just taking it in the morning, then once you’re used to it you can take a second one with dinner. Then you can simply move up to taking the full 15mg in the morning.
Get your thyroid levels checked. When I feel like this it’s usually that I need more Synthroid.
It’s not normal ageing, unless you meant like 92. Have you mentioned how bad it is to a doctor? Been sick lately?
Yes, I’ve been sick. They told me my bloods are normal.
That means literally nothing. They ran the most basic test and didn’t do the other 1,259,649,693 tests.
Okay. Insist that they keep running other tests until they find what’s not normal, because the symptoms you’re describing could also be warnings that something worse is coming (without treatment). Be persistent! Early detection can make a tremendous difference!
Consider visiting specialists. For example, a neurologist might be able to identify your issue very quickly. The whole body is a complex system, but the brain/nervous system alone is capable of some especially weird shit.
Assorted “post infection” bullshit is not uncommon, if that’s the kind of sick you were. Certain infections have certain sequelae. Your doc is aware of the history, right?
I don’t know if anyone has said this, I didn’t go through all the comments, but be sure to probe depression or mood disorders. If you’re not active also definitely try adding a little bit of activity early every day even if you feel like you can’t, just let yourself tap out if you want but at least show up and start to see if you actually want to continue.
I am definitely NOT saying to not continue to probe medical reasons by any means. But feeling tired all the time can be a characteristic of mood disorders and it can be easy to misattribute just how physically tired that can make you for a physical ailment. It can also be hard to see it when you may have coped well with it your whole life, but are only now reaching the burnout from it.
*Said as a human not an expert at all.
Others have provided good advice. I’ll only add that you might also think about celiac / gluten sensitivity. There’s a wide range of possible symptoms there. You could just try cutting out gluten for a week or two and see if the situation improves, because it’s not always easy to diagnose.
But yes, do talk to a doctor, and be prepared to push back and advocate for yourself if they brush you off.
Do you have an anxiety disorder? Anxiety can manifest physically in many different ways.
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