Just give me someone to vote for who is normal
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TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
George Soros
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I love how at least like a decade ago, Soros and Gates were the only billionaires that the right hated and somehow they also thought those two billionaires were commies or something and that people on the left loved them. Well maybe Gates was doing a solid whitewashing campaign but Soros? Never heard anyone praise him.
WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
so…. then it’s the billionaires. got it.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For real. Both sides guy is an idiot.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Both sides are now 30% of the electorate or less (pick your poll, D&R are very close).
Independents are now 40% of the voters.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 weeks ago
I know this is a shitpost, but I’ve seen people legitimately give this argument like it’s a gotcha. It’s like, okay? So if we get rid of the corrupt billionaires running the corrupt government, then the other corrupt billionaires will use their vast wealth to seize power for the billionaires again, so the problem is indeed the corrupt billionaires - we need to get rid of them all. It’s like taking antibiotics - you can’t stop when you start feeling better, you can only stop when you’ve gotten rid of the whole infection, or it’ll just come back stronger.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
A system designed deliberately to incentivize greed will inevitably reproduce these exact circumstances, the greediest and least scrupulous always rise to the top
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Turn it around. Who are the good billionaires? Get their help, their resources, and make politics sane again.
How can we figure out who they are?
bequirtle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The left also thinks corrupt government is a problem
Meanwhile the right proudly advertises their love for corrupt billionaires
sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Corrupt paedophile billionaires
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Fun fact! The picture of the girl in this meme comes from this video, (relevant portion about 3 minutes in) in which she’s by far the calmest and most reasonable person involved. She’s not even angry, she just has kind of an expressive face, and she looks like that for all of exactly one frame
Some psycho combed through this video frame by frame to find the least flattering picture of her possible. Rightoids need to die out man
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I actually didn’t know this. She really does seem like a sweet and friendly person. It’s a shame she’s being used as a symbol for crazy by the right, when she’s actually the opposite.
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I was just thinking, “what is that woman’s story?” Glad to hear it isn’t something like she was turned into a meme and whatever little mental health she had shattered, and now she spends all her time shut in her parent’s basement. Thankfully, the real story isn’t as dark as my imagination.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Why does everyone always miss the point that Tyler Durden is a fucking fascist.
Really changes what this meme means.
marcos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He’s not a good person’s identity, by any means. But he’s not fascist.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
He wants to return to a past that never existed by tearing down the current system. He promotes the idea that men must return to being warriors, and something about the modern world has made them “weak.” He promotes that such strength must be used to dominate, and claims it can be used to improve people’s lives, as he claims with Raymond K. Hessel, despite the fact that Hessel is most likely left devastated with trauma and unable to move forward due to fear of being murdered.
But sure, he’s not a fascist.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Tyler Durden is not the good guy holy shit
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Probably the same people who thought RATM went political in the mid teens…
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
In 2007 I was in the passenger seat of my girlfriend’s shitty Kia because I didn’t have a car.
We stop at a stoplight and up next to us pulls up a shiny new blue Audi, and two fratbros with popped collars and sporting Oakleys.
Their speakers are on extremely loud and blasting System of a Down, specifically “Fuck the System.”
I couldn’t help but think “Man, I’m pretty sure these guys are the system.”
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well…in my defense…I’ve never heard of Tyler Durden before. Is that the guy in the meme on the top right?
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait what
What fascist wants to destroy all the debt records
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I saw a yt vid awhile back making that claim. Don’t think I agree with it all but it’s an interesting take on it
king_comrade@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ahh the ‘enlightened centrist’ take, how very boring.
oascany@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I’m-a-cool-smart-guy memes I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something.
sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Was it them making themselves Tyler Durden that gave it away?
khanh@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
therefore, corrupt billionaires are the problem
sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah i don’t get it. If they billionaires were corrupt but the government wasn’t…
What would the problem be?
PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Its not like that at all.
The left is saying billionaire are the problem. Their existence is a sign of corrupt system.
The right is saying all the left is corrupt. They don’t mind their corrupt politicians.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Corrupt billionaires is redundant. You cannot have billionaires without a corrupting influence on government. Even if there were such a thing as a “good billionaire”, it wouldn’t justify the risks posed by all the bad ones.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
So that would put you on the left.
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No…it wouldn’t.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Corrupt billionaires running the government means you think the problem is corrupt billionaires.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The right elected the most corrupt government we have had so far.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
…so far
00xide@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn’t be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This stinks of “enlightened centrist” meme junk.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, the post is meant to be pro-left.
But your first sentence in your comment is wrong. Classic correlation is not causation. With the addition of “if X is Y because Z, if Z wouldn’t be, then X wouldn’t be Y”.
00xide@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I was on the fence about this exact thing. My logic is that corruption requires wealthy/powerful people to be corrupt in favor of. If there were no billionaire class, no bourgeoisie, there would be no people who benefit from the oppression of the proletariat, so corruption as we conceive of it in modern America couldn’t exist.
Of course, people will act unpredictably and some people with power will abuse it, but the whole system of billions being spent on campaign contributions and lobbyist dinners couldn’t continue if there weren’t entities with billions to spend.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Billionaires aren’t corrupt, they’re ethically bankrupt; they’re the corrupt_ors_.
Government officials are corrupt because they’ve been corrupted by the billionaire corruptors.Getting rid of the billionaires solves both problems at once.
It’s always funny to me when people say to put the billionaires in charge, it’s always just like
The farmer is doing a bad job because they just let the fox into the henhouse, so instead we should put the fox in charge of the henhouse. The fox is best suited for the job because they have a lot of experience with hens and they know all the problems with the henhouses.
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Um no, that is not what the “left” thinks.
There are a lot of radically different “left wing” ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn’t really represent a good summary of what they believe.
I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie’s CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.
So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an “error” in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It’s just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth and power, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.
So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It’s just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing
What exactly do you think is a just hierarchy? Where is the line?
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There is none. That’s why I am an anarchist. I guess, I worded that in a bad way.
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Read that again. Slowly.
stenAanden@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
When someone wants to be an edgy centrist but ends up enforcing leftism
SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I was curious about what the site attached to the watermark was like: mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-mind-unleashed/
P1k1e@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We really gotta stop using that girl in memes that make her seem crazy. She was the calmest most reasoned person in that video.
yesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
/r/im14andthisisdeep
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Everyone is “I need someone who I can vote for!”
Why not run yourself? I bet there is a considerable amount of people willing to vote for a random person who has no known connections to oligarchs, pedophiles or billionaires
Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Because I’m not tough enough to handle the death threats I’d get for being trans.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because I don’t want to be a politician.
There are also too many stupid executives. That doesn’t mean that I want to be an executive. I cannot both be a politician and an executive.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The right in the US only says what their cult leader tells them to say. If he says the government is bad (which he often does when he’s not the one running it), it’s bad, but when he says it’s good, (which he often does when he’s the one running it) they say it’s good.
borQue@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I just read that the English government is considering a Law that forbids politicians to lie. I actually thought that was the whole starting point of politics but somewhere down the road clearly they must have noticed that no-one cared, so they finally made sure we’d care.
A lil disappointing on the progression charts of evolution, but hey! We now can move on.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
We have truth-in-advertising laws, and political campaigns are nothing more than marketing/ promotional/ advertising campaigns, so those laws should apply. If someone is making claims that are demonstrably false, their campaign should be ended, and their entire campaign fund confiscated, and they should be prohibited from ever holding office again.
They’ll learn real fast.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Right, so the proper order of operations here is to get rid of the corrupt billionaires, so that we can clean up the corrupt government.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So… Anyone up for Corrupt Socialism? It’s not looking so bad these days, eh?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Corrupt billionaires was the problem when it was a monarchy. It was a problem when they were plantation owners. It was a problem when they were railroad barons. It was a problem when they were automotive industrialists.
During Hoover, even the US people, who were taught to be terrified of communism knew that what we had wasn’t working. FDR pushed the New Deal through as a last bastion of western capitalism, and at that very moment, the ownership class started working to roll all that back.
Curiously, billionaires can’t seem to remember the whole thing about the social contract, that to keep the working class from burning it all down, you have to make sure they are compensated enough to survive. They’re not doing that, and eventually too many people are going to have a grudge and would rather no system than this system.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Corrupt billionaires controlling the government in a fight to hoover up every last penny of the entire population of the earth are a substantial problem.
The majority of the right doesn’t actually care about corruption as long as they see it benefiting them, or hurting the ‘other team’. It doesn’t actually need to benefit them it can even hurt them substantially, as long as it hurts the other side more and they are told they could have an advantage due to it.
In the end, the left politicians are as into the corruption as the right, they’re just better at lip service and nothing is going to change.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I think that must be the most cold take anyone has ever had in the entire history of thinking. There were mollusks who already understood this. This isn’t news to anyone.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Idk still seems like a majority of people still think if “their side” was in power it would fix everything.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
In my country my side is in power and they’re all useless. But it’s still better than the alternative, at least we’re not at war with Iran alongside the US and Israel. Which is what would have happened otherwise.
Everyone knows it’s the rich and powerful who are in control it’s why socialism is such an appealing idea, and why of course it will never happen.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
This is in fact incorrect: the right doesn’t say corrupt government is the problem The right says trans kids and brown people are the problem. Because the right is dumb as a fucking brick, and the billionaires managed to brainwash the dumb right into hating someone other than themselves.
poopsmith@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Senile retired actor mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy
…who was voted in based on a single issue campaign. The anti-abortion-access movement convinced their flock that abortions were literally as bad as killing babies, and Falwell successfully created a voting block based on that one issue. That base didn’t realize it came with massive deregulation, and they weren’t smart or knowledgeable enough to care.
Reagan was the beginning of the end. I was fourteen when he was elected.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s an issue with definitions. When the right says the government is corrupt, they mean socially corrupt. When the left talks about the corrupt, they mean fiscally corrupt.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, the right is also morally and legally corrupt.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The right thinks that people are socially corrupt. Not the government. They think the government shouldn’t enable that corruption. But when it comes down to it, they hate people. They don’t hate institutions.
Dojan@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
The right wanting to eradicate minorities has nothing to do with fiscal corruption. It’s just pure evil.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am declaring war on fat, gay kids.
Unstoppable_Flop@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Finally! A new angle!
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The “right” isn’t a monolith anymore than the “left”.
While it manifests in different ways the American “left” has been just as willing and happy to sacrifice brown, trans, woman, etc. persons because they are equally dumb and brainwashed.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
“If we don’t let Israel burn down Gaza we might lose votes and if we lose votes then Trump will win and if Trump wins then it’s your fault when minorities are hurt.”
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Liberals are center-right at best, the US has no left
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They actually say it all the time. Trumps people have been called out in interviews for saying it while occupying their positions.