there were signs all around my uni that said “dump your socialist boyfriend” for like NO reason 😭😭
“On second thought let’s not go to the United States. ‘t’is a silly place.”
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there were signs all around my uni that said “dump your socialist boyfriend” for like NO reason 😭😭
“On second thought let’s not go to the United States. ‘t’is a silly place.”
Yes we are the only country on earth with religious fundamentalists
Well compared to most European countries you are sure clear winners
The Vatican is #1, but we’re the only other “Western Democracy” that is having a major resurgence of fundies in power. There’s always been a problem, but never have they had so much sway. And we’re not better off for it.
Sounds like all the girls there (or at least the ones whoever printed the signs is interested in) are dating socialist guys?
Wouldn’t need to print the signs otherwise… :P
Never, ever try and engage these people on their terms, for example, by trying to “challenge” them with counter arguments. They already have a whole script of replies ready for anything like that, designed to drag you down to his level of bad-faith bickering.
Instead, simply call out to their face what they actually are. These are bad-faith actors there for the sole purpose of undermining social cohesion by creating a false dichotomy between science and religion. They are not the only reason we are so divided but they are a large one. Tell them that. Don’t let them respond. Don’t give them questions to answer. Just keep pressing, stating what they are, to them, and to everyone who’s stopping to listen. Humiliate them by presenting them to the public as the cancer to society that they are.
This is pretty much prime territory for the same methods Kirk used for “debate”.
Gish gallop, butwhatabout, moving gailposts, exhausting the opponent with bs, etc.
They’re all the same, they’re not there for any honest conversation. There is absolutely no way to “win” with them because no matter what objective and truthful information you offer it will be rejected or you’ll be asked to “prove” something that cannot be done in any manner acceptable to the asker.
creating a false dichotomy between science and religion
Was with you until this part. There’s nothing false about that dichotomy.
Plenty of religious scientists. The more you lesrn, the greater you are aware of how much is uncertain. You can still believe in a God whilst respecting the scientific method of reasoning
In this particular case, he has no audience except a banana and a time traveler, so you could also just ignore him. Nothing worse for him than a day of nothing happening.
You can tell they’re a time traveller because of the Mark V time machine in front of them.
Oh I can think of lots worse.
About 25yrs ago we had a flurry of these types invade. So we pulled some strings, got permission, and started having local bands play the main spot where they wanted to preach during the busy part of the day. Drown them out. The best was our local death metal band where the guitarist dressed up like a priest in a gimp mask and the singer wore a prison jumpsuit and nylons over his face. They condemned it but left. Also, mid-day death metal in the center of campus is something to behold.
Ya. That doesn’t work either. What does work is doing the exact same thing they do. Get a sign write on it “Christianity is bullshit. Prove me wrong” and stand there.
Don’t look at him, don’t engage. When he does finally say something tell him that he’s oppressing your beliefs and he deserves to burn in everlasting hellfire…
Next time I bring you with me.
You’re right. They can’t have a response when you say big fancy words to them that mean actual things. They’ll be stumped.
Someones trying to hookup with your socialist boyfriend
our boyfriend
I’m sorry… Is he saying that the Bible directly, as the first sentence of the first book, like, the very first thing the Bible says, is: “Evolution is a lie,” or, “prove me wrong”?
I shouldn’t think too hard about it, but I am.
You’re arguing with a straw pigeon. There’s no logic to convince that person. You could put them in a time machine and walk them through the evolution of life and they still wouldn’t change their mind.
They would just blame their eyes for lying to them.
Not a believer, but I recently learned that a correct reading of the original Hebrew doesn't say he created everything. He created the waters and the earth from the void that was already there.
Back to the sign. Dude is making the claim; he has to support it. Evolution is the most proven theory we have, yet it has been falsified over and over. He'd first have to understand the basics of evolutionary theory, which I guarantee he doesn't know; he wouldn't be there if he did.
Evolution is the most proven theory we have, yet it has been falsified over and over.
Is this a typo? A theory need only be proven wrong once to nullify it as a theory and so far as I’m aware that hasn’t happened.
I mean, christianity goes back to some water god on the local hill with his wife.
Evolution is the most proven theory we have, it has been tested over and over.
I’ll see you Theory of Evolution and raise you the Theory of Gravity.
Is the templar, banana and lighting McQueen toy part of his argument or are those people goofing on him?
Having attended several red state universities, I chose to take it as a statement that alongside the ubiquitous plaza preachers, who are never affiliated with the school and are generally no one’s favorite campus characters, there’s also plenty of standard college silliness and shenanigans. Apart from the big blue cities, the college towns of the south are generally the most educated and forward thinking enclaves of the red states, hence the huge pressure campaigns from their governors to being the schools themselves to heel.
Proof that we still monkey
Tho not sure if proving him wrong or right
We are just monkeys with main character syndrome.
It’s literally ridiculously easy to prove him wrong, but you know he won’t accept your numerous indisputable proofs, not just because he’s religious, but because he’s a cunt.
Ni!
What sad times these are.
When ruffians can go around saying Ni allowed to old women.
Could you bring us a shrubbery? A nice one, not too expensive
You first. Prove religion is right.
Here are the arguments theyll be sure are winners:
1
says in old book. You not have old book.
2
DIE UNBELIEVER!
3
hello, morality officer? Yes, i have an unbeliever here.
says in old book. You not have old book.
The first encyclopedia is about as old as the Bible.
So it’ll always end in answer 2 and 3.
Tell him there’s a nobel prize for him if he can prove his view.
Why’s he on a footstool lol
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there were signs all around my uni that said “dump your socialist boyfriend” for like NO reason 😭😭
Are you on my campus or is this a common thing?
Probably TPUSA
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 34 minutes ago
No, you prove that you’re right.