I know everyone expected prices to go up but $650 for a regular PS5? OOOFFFFF.
Confirmed: PS5 console prices are being raised by $100 | VGC
Submitted 3 weeks ago by ampersandrew@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/confirmed-ps5-console-prices-are-being-raised-by-100/
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popcar2@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
But it’s a whole console for the same price as 64GB memory, what a deal
Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Great news for the steam machine. The price difference gets smaller as they raise closing the gap.
Thanks xbox for leaving the market to allow this.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Xbox hasn’t quite left the market, they’re just slowly sleepwalking down a pier. We’ll see if they wake up before they walk off the end and end up drowning. I’m certainly not holding my breath.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Xbox had already begun raising prices for the same reason Sony’s doing so now.
pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But we still don’t even actually know what the steam machine is going to cost yet, do we? Could be a fucking fortune.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m forecasting a 1250 pricetag, at that I will buy it.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
It almost certainly will be, but so is everything else.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Remember when consoles would get cheaper not more expensive over time!? This thing is five years old at this point.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
The PS2 launched at £299. Got reduced to £199 the week the Xbox came out (and stuck the nails in the coffin just as it was being born) and finished somewhere around £79.
If only there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you left them.
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This is also from a period of time where manufacturing genuinely got cheaper over time. Die sizes shrunk for the CPUs, so you could make the system smaller with less waste heat. There pretty much haven’t been those kinds of revisions for modern consoles
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
these are atypical times.
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
So that’s $899.99. How is console gaming cheaper then PC again?
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Uhhh, have you looked at pc prices recently?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because the equivalent graphics card is about $450, and you still need to buy a CPU, storage, RAM, PSU, and case. And it’s only the up-front cost that’s cheaper.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Premade desktops with a good enough you can still be found for shit 1200$ / 1000€.
And the savings from buying on Steam/GoG instead will probably make up the difference.
And you get a full PC as well
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Well for a start that’s the PS5 Pro and absolutely nobody is buying that.
That would be like me saying you can’t make a gaming PC without a 5090.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
God, these companies are all so evil and shitty in their own special way.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
PS5 has 16 gigs of GDDR6. I have no idea how it compares to DDR5 price-wise when bought in bulk, but 16 gigs of DDR5 has gone up by like 150 dollars over the last 9 months or so.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean honestly I don’t think it’s the companies choice to raise the prices on this. When you look at the cost of the materials to make it and the fact that all the other companies have raised their costs unfortunately I think this is a massive side effect to that. I mean I’m still not going to buy it I didn’t want to buy it in the first place because it was already incredibly expensive and I’m definitely not buying it. I’ve been waiting for the price to drop on it and I’ve been seeing them sitting in Walmart unsold as they are with the current prices.
CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why do people buy a console instead of a PC? I just can’t understand, seriously.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There are fewer and fewer reasons as time goes on, but the big one is that it’s usually a lower up-front cost (in a lot of cases, still is) and just works without any fuss. We might find the fuss on PC to be pretty minimal, but on console, it approaches 0. PCs have gotten easier to work with, people have become more literate in how to use them, and the long-term savings on PC with a significantly sized library have become more apparent, but there will always still be a market for something like a console, even if that means they abandon some of their defining traits in order to survive the future.
Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Yup. I wanted to play FF VII Rebirth, but apparently SE can’t be assed to optimize their flagship game for PC, so I stuck with the PS5 version because it just works. I don’t want to deal with stuttering and downloading weird drivers to get it to maybe not stutter. I don’t care about mods and ultimate graphics. I just want to play the game.
BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“…and just works without any fuss”
Unless you bought an Xbox One/Xbox One X and found out the software was total shit and you can find yourself forcing system software repairs and having video cut out issues on the One X. The amount of times I had to download a repair tool to a flashdrive for the Xbone is embarrassing even for Microslop.
Otherwise your statement is correct
lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, when it comes to console exclusives, some can’t be beat. Nintendo and Sony have proven that console exclusives still drive sales.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mat Piscatella makes a good argument that they haven’t proven that. A lot of Xbox titles became all-time PS5 best-sellers immediately after getting ported. People who wanted to play those games could have bought an Xbox at any point to play them before the multiplatform strategy was announced, but they didn’t. He would argue that people have already settled into their platform of choice and just wait for the games they want to come there. Something like a third of all console players (at least Xbox/PS) are only playing multiplatform live service games on those consoles, not any of the marquis exclusives.
And to be honest, that makes sense. In the grand scheme of things, there aren’t even that many exclusives anymore, compared to the deluge that there might have been in the 5th/6th gens.
rozodru@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
what console exclusives for the PS5? it has 7. that’s it. only 7 that you can ONLY play on the PS5. (used to be 8 but Death Stranding 2 just came out on PC). and of those 7 maybe ONE of which is a console seller, maybe, and that’s Astro Bot and while it’s a good game I say that as a massive stretch that it’s worth a $650 point of entry.
the ps5 doesn’t have any exclusives that drive sales. none.
r1veRRR@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s funny how we never count the thousands of games you can only play on PC as exclusives. If we throw in emulators and backwards compatibility, there’s just absolutely no contest.
Not to say that there aren’t great exclusives for the consoles, just that the PC ones seem to always get ignored.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
because pc gaming is a huge pain in the ass.
console gaming is not.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Look, I won’t argue that console gaming is easier, but if you think you need to spend hours resolving driver issues on PC, you must not have owned one in a decade. I’m on Linux and playing Windows games without driver issues these days. On the dreaded nvidia drivers that everyone says are awful on Linux (they CAN have issues, but it’s not that common these days). On Windows there should be even fewer issues with gaming in particular since the games are actually made for that platform.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because I like sitting down after a long day and playing games on my big ass oled tv.
I don’t like sitting down and turning on my computer so that it can update Windows, then the game itself needs to be updated. Then the game runs like shit because my graphics drivers updated to a newer version that doesn’t work well with the game I’m playing. So then I have to do some research to find the best driver version to downgrade to. So then I finally get the driver issue fixed and start the game, but now my controller isn’t working because the windows update broke the Logitech drivers my controller needs. So now it’s been two hours, I’m tired, I didn’t get to play any games, and I still have more work to do tomorrow to get things working.
Hond@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
This comment. But now imagine not beeing computer literate. While consoles lost a bit of their appeal in ease of use the last two generation they’re still a nice little walled garden where most of the stuff is just working for you in the background.
I havent bought a current-gen console since the 360 for various reasons. But i get why somebody just wants a playstation and not a gaming pc.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Feels like linux can fix some of your problem, but then it creates some other. So, fair.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The cost of building a gaming PC has also gone up dramatically.
A whole ps5 is about the current price of just a decent “value” video card. Toss in your ram and storage and you’re looking at three times the price.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Can’t speak for other people, but as a patient gamer it’s a combination of cost and longevity - I can get about 15 years out of a console.
I only upgraded from an original xbox to an xbox 360 because I found it in a dumpster (I did have to fix it and buy a controller, so it wasn’t ideal). My wife’s PS4 is now 11 years old and still works.
r1veRRR@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
You won’t believe how much time I can get out of a PC, if I wanted to. Backwards compatibility plus frequent sales, plus emulators and mods.
There’s a bunch of reasons why someone might prefer one over the other, but longevity absolutely goes to PC, no question.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I was too damn patient and missed the end of the steam sale this week FFS.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s more cost efficient, and less of a headache to deal with anomalous problems like bugs and driver issues that can be as specific to your unique combination of PC hardware.
Golden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
In addition to being more cost efficient, square footage is at a premium. I bought a PC when things were going well for me, but then my living situation changed and it sat in the closet for a couple years. The old Playstation doesn’t take up any additional space because it can sit behind the TV that’s always being used anyways.
Now that I’ve finally organized my space enough to fit a computer desk I’ve gotta deal with either using Windows or taking up Linux as a full-time hobby and learning how to make an Nvidia card work with it. It’d literally be easier to just sell it and buy a ps5 if I only cared about gaming.
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Console is easier (plug in and play). But console gaming is more expensive in the long term.
DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Since the Sega MegaDrive, I’ve always been a console kid.
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I don’t anymore, ps5 was my last and I barely use it. It wasn’t worth buying, but I use my ps4 incredibly heavily.
I used to do console because it was easier. You also know a game put out for a system is compatible with your hardware. You don’t have to fiddle with things to get them to work properly, much less well.
It used to be a decent value proposition. It was worth it enough that I’ve had every non-handheld console for decades. The games would be sold cheap used, they always worked, and used consoles were cheap. If you stuck with the secondhand market you could get a system and like 20 games for the price of buying the system and one game of $50 value new. But you could also resell the games if needed for some reason. It was an investment, and it definitely paid off. My collections is worth almost 10 grand now, and I certainly didn’t spend half that much on it, when each game was $10 or less.
Those value propositions changed when physical media stopped being the main thing. Now used games sell for near what new ones do, because they just didn’t make that many. And why would they continue to make them when everyone downloads?
So now your question is valid, but it didn’t used to be in the same way.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Well I have a PC also but for me I wanted to play with a specific friend who I’ve always played games with growing up.
It was cheaper for me to buy two PS5’s and give him one than it was to buy us both PCs that could run new games at the same fps as the PS5.
Also, Sony let’s you gameshare not only individual games but the PS plus subscription service as a whole as well.
What that means is when I buy a game, me and him can play the game together at the same time (steams game sharing doesn’t do that only one can be online playing it at a time) AND he doesn’t even have to pay for online as long as I have PS plus and have his console set up as my primary and vice versa.
That still comes out miles ahead from the cost it would have taken to get us both a decent gaming PC and games on top of it. Every single time you both want to play, boom two copies of the game have to be bought.
And since we share PS plus it really still makes it cheaper than gaming on PC. Especially now like yeah ps5 went up but you have to practically be a drug dealer or something to afford a new PC now (kidding of course, but not far off) so its still a lot cheaper to just get a ps5.
Also the exclusives on PlayStation are absolute titties. God of War and the Ghost of Tsushima series are my jam but there’s several others too.
Xbox though, yeah I don’t know why anyone would buy an Xbox anymore. I had one and when they raised game pass 50% I sold it and will never fuck with Xbox or any other Microsoft product ever again, minus using my friends computer to update my Garmin when it needs it since its windows only.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I guess I’ll just have to buy even fewer consoles than I already am.
Bieren@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
It is memory prices? Or is it just the “we don’t have any real competition” increase?
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Memory. Xbox raised their prices already.
voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
That could indicate a duopoly if the Xbox brand wasn’t struggling so hard.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Th prices of every component involved in making a PS5 have exploded.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That’s some big bullshit there. The parts needed for the PS5 are already produced or planned/bought to fixed prices. So Sony just found an excuse to earn more money and hoping for customers to not realize it.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I doubt they have a contract for endless memory at X price forever. Memory and storage prices have gone up so much that the memory and storage of a PS5 has for sure risen 200+ dollars in price over the last 9 or 10 months if you buy them as separate modules as a consumer.
Cost of 2 TB SSD and 16 gigs of RAM (what you get in a PS5 Pro at 900 EUR once the price hike kicks in) if bought as a consumer, is about 450 EUR in my country. That’s without anything else (motherboard, CPU, GPU, power supply) that the device contains. Of course it has shared memory so perhaps you should be looking at 8 gigs of memory (still 100+ EUR) and an 8 gig graphics card of roughly equivalent TFLOPS since it’s kinda hard to put a value tag on the other features its’ GPU has - The RX 7600 starts at 300 EUR. So that’d be like 250+100+300 for storage + RAM + GPU. Still without a CPU, power supply, or any other electronics. Shit, the cheapest wi-fi 7 module I can find on sale in my country alone is 80 euros.
Worst part is, RAM and storage prices aren’t really even showing any signs of slowing down.
All things considered, I reckon they still have pretty low margins for their hardware compared to PC parts manufacturers. Which they can afford because they make it back on the game store margins.
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
RAM, HDDs, etc are magically not going up in price for them? You think they got some sort of deal that the much bigger manufacturers couldn’t negotiate somehow?
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Have you any sorts of idea how that business works? How long before production you need to order such large quantities? And that especially because of this the client does not want to end up taking all the risks and demands steady pricing for a very long period?
Yeah. Thought so.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Makes it even worse that Sony keeps exclusives to their console. And reportedly reduced or stopped single player first party games on PC.
Skv@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s nothing left besides Gran Turismo for years now, and I’m not shelling $800 for a GT7 access box.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The effects of reduced or no further single player games from Sony on PC will be felt in future. Until now Sony was happily porting their games to PC, but after some reports it looks like that will change. So while the recent games are ported over, new games will probably not. So I am worried for the future, not for current available games.
commander@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
PS6 is going to be so boutique when that comes out. PS5’s cross gen period with the PS6 is going to be even longer than the PS4s with the PS5
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Whats that little kickstand thing in the thumbnail?
demizerone@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gaming kids have it rough. 😞
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 3 weeks ago
if y’all are still buying consoles, you’re a big chud. stop giving billion dollar companies your pennies. emulators are free and everywhere! fuck off nintendo too!!
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Question; is it nowadays cheaper to just get a good gaming PC for long-term? (Including when someone does piracy related stuff).
Nowadays, I can’t recommend any console except the Steam Deck (OLED). I do always say “just get a good Gaming PC and for handheld the Steam Deck”.
wuffah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They made a fifth one?
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was already not going to buy a Ps5, but now I’m $100 more not buying one instead!
mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
lol no thanks, next
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Again?
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
And there are so many YouTube video asking why 3ds consoles are selling for so much.
Maybe things why.
SammyJK@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Back in my day console prices went down with time…
sanpo@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Back then we didn’t have another bubble inflating prices every other year. :/
nuko147@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Same with RAM, HDD space, GPUs, Phones… Shit the whole tech industry really sucks today.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Its because they’ve already burned through all the good ideas and iterative designs have reached the point of diminishing returns. What’s something 2026 tech can do that six-year-old 2020 tech couldn’t? With the introduction of AI, a lot of tech has become objectively worse with no replacements in sight.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Consoles were also a lot simpler then. And we were finding lots of ways to reduce cost ( chip count reduction, etc) as technology evolved rapidly
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My ColecoVision kicks your Atari ass. Don’t you be mouthing off about ‘simple!’
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