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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • quantumcrop@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Using their extra-toothed mandible, they will slice and chew the flesh off, coating the meat in their acid-rich saliva before consumption. The bee will transport the chewed carrion back to the colony where it’s regurgitated into wax pots, different from the honey pots.

    Here, the meat will be mixed with honey and left to mature over a period of 14 days. During this curing time, it will become a paste-like substance that is rich in free amino acids and sugars. This paste is fed to their young, who need it to grow.

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    So basically a potted meat but with sugar instead of fat. Apparently they also keep normal honey that’s separate from the meat honey. Bees are so fucking cool.

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  • e_chao@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    a smoky, salty, and savory taste rather than being sweet beezzit.com/…/meat-honey-the-strange-secret-of-vu…

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  • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    That means someone tried it out

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  • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That hive looks like I’m not high enough level to fight whatever is in there.

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  • 5715@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nature does depravity.
    Humans: “Is it edible?”

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    • rollerbang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      While I would agree on the surface, it’s not really depravity. We’ve got to do away with rotting meat somehow. Hence why vultures are so important.

      Still upvoted though.

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      • 5715@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I just wanted to use that word… The whole sentence is just a word game given that personifying environment into nature is common, but wrong.

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  • coalie@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Spoiler

    The vulture bee is sometimes said to produce a so-called “meat honey”, but this is a misnomer resulting from scientific uncertainty, due to historic confusion of multiple species, each with a slightly different method of processing.

    In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate “pots” in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

    In a different study of Trigona necrophaga in Panama, the bees gathered nectar and produced honey, and they also produced a glandular secretion, derived from carrion, partially metabolized, used as a protein source, and kept completely separate from the honey. In neither case were the bees mixing meat-based substances with floral-derived substances.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_bee

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    • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Vulture bees usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs.

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      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There needs to be metal band called Vulture Bees, this is too metal.

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      • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
        On bed of mottled rocks 
Amid flowers cold as ice 
Pray the weak, the old, the poor

And when the tiny one from Heaven comes 
Crawls inside the chosen skull 
And when the tiny one it summons the others 
To crawl inside the chosen skull
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    • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate “pots” in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

      So it’s not incorporated in the honey. They have a separate protein stache.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A protein stache would be part of a meat beard.

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Fascinating. It’s worth mentioning that (normal) honey can be used to preserve meat, thanks to its antimicrobial and hydrophilic properties. I guess that’s what’s going on here too: they use a kind of nectar honey to keep the meat component from going off. That said, this kind of food preservation isn’t immune to botulism so do be careful if you try this.

        Now I’m wondering when/how this behavior evolved. Did these guys come first, and honeybees figured out how to eat pollen as a protein source as an evolutionary step, the other way around, or separately at the same time from some parent species?

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    • Mandarbmax@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I just came into the comments to post that. Thank you!

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    • RaoulDuke85@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My mudhoney cover band.

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      • 0ops@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No it’s my Meat Puppets cover band

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      • BruisedMoose@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Every Good Boy Deserves Meat Honey

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Alien Bees is what I’m getting from this

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  • sober_monk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, I know what my players are facing next time they venture into the Underdark…

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    • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are they finding the person who decided to test the edibility of the corpse nest?

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      • sober_monk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Now that you mention it, hell yes they are!

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  • negativenull@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    IRL Zerg home base

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  • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s pretty metal

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  • IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No thanks, I’m good.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No good, I’m thanks, dad

      What

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  • Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So busy with “could” didn’t worry with “should”

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  • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Alright. I would.

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    • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Actually, that’s a really good point to which I really want to know the answer. We have to assume that, since it’s effectively fermented meat, the prion would survive, but maybe they’re really efficient at turning all of the protein into unbound amino acids?

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Always it’s bee shit

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      *Vomit, actually.

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  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay this might be more disgusting than the rotten Sardinian maggot cheese, even though the maggots can jump

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  • alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok, as I understood it, there is “edible honey” that is really plant-based, and “carrion meat-based protein storage” that kind of works like pollen storage in honeybees nest. TBH, I find pollen more nutritional and tasty than honey. And I know that honey bees are opportunistic carnivores too. These things kind of come together in a story better left untold.

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    • Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      What do bees need pollen for? I thought bees just got bukkaked as an co-evolutionary repayment for the nectar they’re jacking?

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve seen people turn bright red and itchy after eating pollen, presumably it’s a likely allergen?

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      • alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It totally is! I’m allergic to several types of pollen, also I live in the middle of the forest and am a beekeeper. My stomach hurts when I eat that stuff. Nothing of this stops me; I also love Spring. I feel quite sick now, too (well, cold weather came back and it’s a bit easier than 2 days ago). Good that I have mild allergy, I’d be dead by now if I had it hard. When birch flowers unusually hard, I sometimes have a symptom that feels like how people describe asthma.

        Maybe some day I’ll get desensibilized enough, after eating this stuff regularly. Maybe I’ll die trying.

        My neighbor doctor - also a beekeeper - says that many people who perceive honey as slightly spicy actually get allergic reaction from traces of pollen in it. He also thinks my strategy of eating pollen to overcome allergy should eventually work; I think I just like the taste too much to stop.

        The trick with pollen I’ve discovered is that as soon as it is extracted from the honeycomb, it starts quickly degrading; whenever it’s sold, it’s bleak tasteless flavorless powder, not even close to explosion of flavor that happens when you chew on a fresh blob right from the honeycomb (usually with the honeycomb, who cares, it’s edible too. Almost everything inside the nest is edible, apart form the frames and other human-made nonsense). Apparently you can get the stuff only from an actual beekeeper (or by raiding wild bees nest probably, I think it’s not a good idea though), and I only figured it out when I started keeping bees!

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  • DaedalousIlios@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Babe, wake up! New Vita Carnis monster just dropped!

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  • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    when i hear couples calling each other honey, this is what i will picture in my head

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    • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dark, yet uplifting

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      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can’t explain why, but this got a lol

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lovecraftian horror.

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  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Could be related to the term Bugonia that they made that recent movie not-exactly about. From Wikipedia:

    “Bugonia was a folk practice in the ancient Mediterranean region based on the belief that bees were spontaneously generated from a cow’s carcass.”

    So in the old days, they saw bees coming out of rotting cows (maybe these here vampar bees) and said “that’s where bees come from”

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    • juliebean@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      probably unrelated. vulture bees are from south america.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_bee

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  • sepi@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is right out of Scorn

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  • senorblackbean@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Soylent Green Honey ™

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  • HumbleBragger@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This looks a lot like other native south American stingless bee hives.

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