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Liminal Space
Submitted 8 hours ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
afriscipio@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I have no mouth and I must scream.
Agent641@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
We out here building torment nexes faster than the SciFi writers can keep up.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 20 minutes ago
I thought that wasn’t supposed to be an instruction manual
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Everybody wants science to cure cancer, but the moment someone does foundational research they lose their fuckin minds.
Guys, the alternative is cutting up mice and pigs.felixwhynot@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Yeah, this is pretty far below the level of a mouse even, typically
mad_djinn@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
this has nothing to do with cancer. when will you people realize? Do you not question why Epstein was funneling billions of dollars into various scientific organizations intent on researching neuroscience?
Or maybe you are already one of the golems.
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 minutes ago
this has nothing to do with cancer.
Not directly, but this is furthering the state of the art in organelles, a tool that allows scientists to experiment on the exact tissue they are interested in, not just a animal substitute. That’s why it’s foundational research, as opposed to applying those findings to research a intervention for a specific cancer.
Do you not question why Epstein was funneling billions of dollars into various scientific organizations intent on researching neuroscience?
I don’t give a fuck if the pedo had delusions about neuroscience creating deaging, mindcontroll or whatever you are implying here.
Or maybe you are already one of the golems.
Now your just chucking out antisemitic dog whistles. And by that I mean actually antisemitism, not antizionism, so fuck of!
Lemminary@lemmy.world 32 minutes ago
Do you not question why Epstein was funneling billions of dollars into various scientific organizations intent on researching neuroscience?
No, please explain.
kureta@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Iam not sspecifically talking about this example and I am not trying to imply this tissue has any sort of consciousness but if “foundational research” means “man made horrors beyond my comprehension” maybe we need to find another way, and if we cannot, maybe we just shouldn’t torture conscious beings in the name of science and progress.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 36 minutes ago
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Nature is full of horrors beyond your comprehension. If you want to make that less so, manmade horrors are the only way to do it.
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This is by no means torture, quite the opposite in fact. Neurons are little prediction machines, and if you don’t give them stimuli, they either make their own of degrade. Particularly in small clumps of cells like this, you can’t be sure of whether they’re conscious, but if they are, they’re having an amazing time learning about the light signals.
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That touches upon the actual issue here. We dont know if they’re conscious. We don’t have a solid idea of what consciousness is, where it comes from, what it consists of, or where the line is drawn. That’s the sort of knowledge you only get by performing these sorts of experiments.
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moonshadow@slrpnk.net 3 hours ago
All I want science to cure is billionaires, we’ll take it from there. Concentrations of wealth that enable making brains grow eyes are a bug, not feature. Ever read “Whitey’s on the Moon”?
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 hours ago
Unless you go for Cartesian dualist theories about immaterial souls, consciousness of the sort we experience is an artefact of the structure of our brains and nervous systems, which are large in scale and complex. A small blob of human-derived brain tissue is not going to have consciousness, let alone self-awareness and a sense of horror at its predicament, any more than a 555 timer is capable of playing DOOM by virtue of being made of silicon.
interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world 17 minutes ago
At what point do brain cells develop the complexity for consciousness? Is there a specific number of brain cells which produces self-awareness?
I have a difficult time believing that consciousness is some artifact that arises from material “complexity and structure”, and tend towards the nondual view of reality.
But that is just my opinion, and what makes consciousness such a fascinating subject imo.
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Haha my first thought was “I wonder if it’s possible to build a general purple CPU out of 555 timers, then get DOOM running on that sucker.”
Of course, someone has already taken the first steps towards such a monstrosity.
Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
If you follow an integrated information theory derivation, consciousness is emergent from integrating and partitioning information, and with no immaterial soul the possible capability of awareness remains, even if not directly comparable to our own.
Give that brain some morphine as a treat to be on the safe side, most brains find that one relaxing.
moonshadow@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
Best take here. When not otherwise engaged by an experiment, show that lil glob the best time it’s capable of experiencing
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
If you were to think of each of us as a bank of servers, that would be the equivalence of a nightlight with a light sensor
pancake@lemmygrad.ml 3 hours ago
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that someone has hacked a single 555 all the way into playing Doom…
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 hour ago
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
More qualified for the White House than anyone working there today.
lengau@midwest.social 3 hours ago
Hey now, don’t be rude. There are still some really good groundskeepers working there.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 50 minutes ago
They’ve all been deported.
gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I have no mouth and I must scream, 4k remake
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 8 hours ago
This is how I feel on Sundays.
lettruthout@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Me most mornings.
testaccount372920@piefed.zip 2 hours ago
This is sick! The potential for basic research seems amazing to me. I think a system like this could be great for understanding some of the fundamentals of signalling in the brain.
luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 hour ago
Plant eyes in our brain, to cleanse this ghastly idiocy!
umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
ah great, man-made horrors beyond my comprehension.
BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online 8 hours ago
Am scientist. Dear science, please stop. Just… Don’t.
msage@programming.dev 18 minutes ago
Why? It’s better than mice in every way.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
This can’t possibly go wrong.
SPRUNT@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
If we’re lucky, in billions of years this one will decide NOT to create “AI”.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
I’m really curious, has anyone here not seen this image before? Not playing internet gatekeeper, I’m curious about Lemmy demographics. This image was everywhere like 5-7 years ago.
morto@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Maybe you overestimate the popularity of the places you frequented? Or maybe people’s memory simply isn’t that good
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
I’ve not seen it before. But then… I don’t keep up with either science or memes. So it has to break containment or just be a lucky moment when I’m chuckle-scrolling at the right time and place.
perishthethought@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Obligatory XKCD lucky 10000 link…
deHaga@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
How are they growing human brain blobs?
Lemminary@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
Radiolab did a great episode on it recently called “Space Balls”
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 36 minutes ago
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw
I assume it’s not that different from growing a rat neuron blob.
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 7 hours ago
Every time certain segments of society speak it causes small potions of the audience’s brains to drip out of their ears. These bits are scraped up off the floor and, after mixing well with some tapioca, come to plausibly resemble the mental functions of the person last heard speaking.
SPRUNT@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The MAGA effect.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
In the past few years, it has become possible to encourage stem cells – versatile cells similar to those found in embryos – to grow into spherical masses of brain tissue up to three millimetres wide, known as brain organoids.
PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 7 hours ago
I’ve been hungover too, so what
ComRed@hexbear.net 5 hours ago
Something something man-made horrors something something beyond my comprehension.
LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 8 hours ago
Reading Harlan Ellison and thinking "i could make a mouthless screamer
Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 6 hours ago
Nah, I want to give it a little mouth; the little squeaking screams are cute
Fuzzy wuzzy little misery squishy
Wilco@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
This is crossing a line. Kind of evil and creepy.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 minutes ago
Reminds me of one of the paths of human evolution after the Qu invasion in All Tomorrows where they turn the humans who resisted the most into self-cleaning liners for their sewage systems.