Everything after THIS was a mistake. Image 1985 Nissan 300ZX
There was no need to ever improve upon THIS
Submitted 1 month ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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chunes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 1 month ago
DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 1 month ago
One of my best good mates in school had an 84 200 that we dubbed Tron cause of this awesome setup. Great share, thanks!
Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
So fucking cool.
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
darkmogool@feddit.org 1 month ago
looks like something from cyberpunk
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Way to retro for cyberpunk, more like matrix
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn’t go full blast at the beginning, it’s amazing.
bigFab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 month ago
So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They’re stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they’re always in the same spot and I don’t have to change any screens to access them.
Kanda@reddthat.com 1 month ago
My car still has tactile buttons and it’s a 2018 model. The reason big touchscreens that do everything are becoming more and more usual is because the people want it
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I’d argue split climate for the driver and passenger seat is the only important missing innovation.
krashmo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just point the vents fancyman
mearce@programming.dev 1 month ago
I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 month ago
While I’m eating sushi, snapchatting, and flipping off that jerk that cut me off?? That sounds dangerous.
mearce@programming.dev 1 month ago
That and the ability to set a temperature that is then automatically maintained.
lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Till one of the 3 in vent temp sensors fails and my AC won’t turn on until its replaced but you have to remove the entire dash to access it so it would cost $1500 to change a $20 sensor
herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 month ago
3 zone a/c is also pretty nice. No more “it’s too <exact opposite of what the driver is feeling>” whining from the back.
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
True, but in my experience that’s on a separate console in the back seat.
warm@kbin.earth 1 month ago
This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
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nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Having auto climate with physical controls is peak. No adjusting dials, your car just gets the internal climate to the temperature you want and that’s it.
nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Absolutely. It’s easy to say that new technology ruins things, but all of this was new tech once. You could have just invented the potentiometer and made a control panel with nothing but them and it would be just as awful. It’s all about integrating the technology into the experience and designing in a thoughtful way.
percent@infosec.pub 1 month ago
I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don’t have to keep adjusting it.
Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My new car is a 2025 model, but it’s an Indian made Japanese Kei car and it has large, infinitely spinning knobs for temperature and fan strength, and a digital temperature readout. I really like them.
When the temp was cold in the morning but now it’s hot, I spin those dials like wheel of fortune to the left and immediately set the AC to cold and fast. No repeated button presses.
The only downside is that it doesn’t have one of those knobs for music volume.
Zink@programming.dev 1 month ago
Not only do those knobs sound awesome to use, but I could see them being cheaper and more reliable as well.
Instead of being mechanically connected to whatever custom parts to direct air flow, it can just be an off the shelf encoder sending a signal to a processor that already exists.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I’d have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it’s 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind
FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If there is 100 degrees, your water boils.
cmoney@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Probably means 100 degrees of Freedom° units no C°
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Then the a/c can’t be too cold!
Rooster326@programming.dev 1 month ago
There is in fact 100 degrees. 360 degrees if you can believe it.
Hubi@feddit.org 1 month ago
There is such a thing as the AC being to cold. When I turn it all the way down in my car it’s like being inside a freezer. It legitimately starts to hurt where it blows on your skin after a while. Same with the heat though, it gets so hot that you burn yourself if you touch the vents.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I miss my old car where the engine was so small it got up to temp in minutes even in -30 and the airflow was so direct it felt like it was burning your hands if you aimed it right at the steering wheel
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 month ago
You know you can adjustt the temperature AND air flow, right? You can blast the air to accelerate to the desired temperature and then dial back on the air flow and temperature to keep the car actually pleasent. I only say this because i have a friend who cranks the heat full blast in the winter and then rolls down his windows while still max blasting the heating! Dude has serious brain worms.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Lol, yes, automatic vents are only beginning to get good (and are far from prefect).
For me it’s def not something you set only once.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I haven’t owned a new car in my life so I can’t say what they are now, but if it comes with a witch inside, I have to say I’d set them free. Lol
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 month ago
When it’s 100F or higher, there is no such thing as AC too cold.
moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’d add being able to set a different temperature for the driver and passenger. It’s a godsend for relationships.
TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Some cars even have a separate zone for the rear. However I’ve only seen that on touch screen models, so they can suck a dick.
Macallan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hard agree. I came to say the exact same thing.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can’t disable your breaks until you watch my ad?
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krashmo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think you mean brakes, but funnily enough both work in this context.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I did, but wait how does the other one work?
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This is a decade or two past the true ideal. Not pictured: the 5-inch sliding control that mechanically adjusted between recirculated and exterior air and the drivers and passengers pull-knob by the feet that let exterior air flow in directly. A heavenly touring experience.Image
Also on the one pictured in your post, I find those lit press to toggle ac and def buttons with indicator lights wore out over time and required a ton of force to switch on the cars I’ve had with them.
Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Spot the roach
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ironically, my 2018 Subaru is more mechanical than this. 2/3 dials are mechanical, cable-driven flaps / valve for heat and vent control. Only the fan is an electric dial.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I still remember the lever that you described
Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I’ve got an old car and it’s still like this. I don’t look forward to the day I have to get a new car.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I want to set my hvac to a temp and let it sort out whether it should heat or cool.
rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Except backup cameras. Everything else is bad
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 month ago
How fast do you want it, how hot do you want it, where do you want it
Pringles@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
bstix@feddit.dk 1 month ago
However you probably don’t miss the manual choke valve, double clutching, hand winded starter crank, or even window cranks.
There was really no golden period of car controls. It went fluidly from one kind of shit to another kind of shit.
IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Heated and cooling seats…
Split zones
Heated steering wheels
And so much more…
I swear the Luddite whining about car tech never ends…
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 1 month ago
First gen tundra controls really are excellent. They and used mechanical linkages for the diverter and for the hot/cold control. The only problem is the knobs get loose over time and can break or fall off when you accellerate.
mlg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Honestly. I prefer my current EVs AC. I have set it to 2q degrees when I first got it and I haven’t touched it since.
I don’t like “more cold” or “more hot” dials. I know what I like, 21 degrees and if the car can keep exactly that? I’m happy.
TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Hard disagree. Physical buttons with a digital temperature and split controls for left and right (and maybe rear as well). Automatic climate control that also does the fans. I had all of this on a car in 2010, and it was perfect - I could just leave the temperature set at what I wanted all the time, and the fans would blow hard if it needed to heat or cool significantly to get there.
Some manufacturer’s, eg Volvo, don’t automatically adjust the fans, which is wank. But nothing is as wank as touch screen controls - I fucking hate it when you’re trying to aim at a button, then as you go in to press the car bumps and you completely miss.
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I still have this. I can adjust all of it without ever looking at knobs while driving. Good luck doing that with touch bs.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 1 month ago
Ever notice how social politics got all fucked up when these went away?
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This works well and it’s not a hill I’ll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it’s done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I’ve never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Sorry internet, I love the auto climate.
swagmoney@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
how hard do you want it? how hot do you want it? where do you want it?
noxypaws@pawb.social 1 month ago
If you truly believe this, replace your home thermostat with the same controls. Live with that shit for awhile.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
That has 5 moving parts, while a touchscreen has none. It much easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to install the touchscreen. But instead of passing the savings to you, they probably keep it or pass it on to investors.
passepartout@feddit.org 1 month ago
The next thing will be: I can’t toggle my AC because AWS is down.
expatriado@lemmy.world 1 month ago
your seats overheat and get stuck in the most forward position
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Unless you pay the subscription fee.
Hubi@feddit.org 1 month ago
You’re lucky if it lets you start the car.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Are you? I think I would rather a car that doesn’t start than a car that doesn’t have breaks
grte@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Or perhaps, I can’t toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
You joke, but I literally came across this. I HATE that I had to connect my window unit to the net, but we have a lot of brownouts in the area, and it allows me to restart the AC if I’m away, or else my pups would cook during the summer if it didn’t turn on. The AWS outage hit, and I couldn’t log in to the app that controls it to turn it on. Luckily, it’s not peak summer and it didn’t get too warm by the time I got home.
rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 1 month ago
If the brownouts don’t last long, you could maybe solve this issue with a moderately priced UPS to keep the AC unit from powering off during the brief moments when power goes out.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There exist air conditioners with power outage recovery, and they’ve been around for decades. It’s usually labelled “automatic restart” on the spec sheet. This was already a solved problem before the Internet Of Shitty Things, and it seems that in your case some rat bastard went around and deliberately unsolved it.
Whoever that person is, we need to find him and give him a smart kick up the rear.
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Instructions unclear: AWS is doing fine, but my AC won’t shut off until I renew my BMW+ subscription.
sasquatch7704@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You are joking, but I’m pretty sure a few cars could not start or got bricked because AWS went down.
bigFab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Luckily for me, I don’t even know what ‘AWS’ means.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 month ago
Amazon Web Services, are huge data centers that many companies rent to run their services.
The other day one of those AWS data center had issues and many services didn’t work, also because of this many heated beds stopped working properly and over-heated.