They don’t have a plan. It’s pigs at the trough.
Anon doesn't like AI
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LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yup. The people pushing AI are not concerned with the social or economic reprocussions of pushing AI. They just want line go up.
The “Don’t Look Up” greed + willful ignorance will crush us all.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
Excuse me. I grew up raising and breeding pigs I love. They were real. That isn’t. Like their evil, their money, their ego…
…and, Hey! Look at that. That’s the Necronomicon. It looks like Death isn’t too soon, either!
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Have you ever met Capitalism™ ? The guy doesn’t really do long term plans
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Oh they absolute do long term planning, but only in a very narrow scope.
Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Answer. They don’t fucking have a plan. At all.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
And they don’t care. They care about profits now, not profits 5 years from now. That is a problem for future CEOs to solve.
jabeez@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yep, need line to go up this quarter and the few following, no further planning needed.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You pay me $10 to punch you in the face. I pay you $10 to kick me in the balls. We just increased our country’s GDP by $20.
nexguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d pay $5 to watch that. Hey, I think we have something going here.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
My 401k has gotten up into the 5 digit range a couple times, but emergencies have required me to to drain it. Retirement is a dream I rarely harbor.
I’m working until the day I die. My mother fancies herself retired and rots away in a house she imagines she owns, but it has been property of the bank since before I was born in the 80s. A mortgage that was essentially renting with extra steps.
I’m just whining now, so I’ll stop.
Shortstack@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
It’s topical whining though, so it’s allowed
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Sell to other billionaires ad nauseum. Let the rest of humanity starve. The usual kings and peasants model
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That works if your company makes yachts, but not so well if your company makes fast food burgers.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
Can we mage some Fast Food Yachts?
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The executives sell the corporate plane piece by piece while still in the air, then jump out in a golden parachute while the remains of the company nose dive to a fiery end.
RealSpiderLane@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This; look at how short-term they’re already thinking.
They will see the writing on the wall long before they actually have any genuine fear for business. And they’ll take the money and run, just like they already do now.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You forgot they’re also whining about declining birth rate, and begging people to have more kids.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Something something infinite growth
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
force people to create more slaves, or just cattle.
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LouNeko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People tend to forget how cheap gasoline is and how abundant glas bottles and rags are.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The masses aren’t smart enough for that, it’s too easy to distract them with some completely blameless minority group.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
the sad part is that while immigrants are fine, immigration does disadvantage the people.
(this might seem nitpicking, but it’s like the difference between air and wind. One is a substance, the other one is the movement of it. It is the wind that can cause damage, not the air itself.)
If immigration did not actually harm the people, it would be simple to prove that and get over with it. But immigration does harm the people. If there’s immigration of 3 million people into a country with 300 million people, then you can expect that the Cost of Living (CoL) goes up by roughly 1% for everyone in the country, so there’s a small disadvantage, because the resources are shared among a greater group of people.
However, what’s important in the entire discussion is to keep in mind proportionality. I.e., people make a lot of ruckus about life getting 1% more expensive while at the same time, inflation-adjusted buying power of the people has been reduced more than 50% in the last 50 years. (Assuming same number of hours worked per household.) I.e., wages have gone down a lot, more than fucking half in fact (that’s A LOT!!!). The reason is declining demand for human labor due to automation and such. That should be discussed, and the fact that we need higher taxes on the rich to pay for universal basic income.
In other words, we need proportionality in our discussion. It can’t be that a topic that influences our CoL by 1% gets 70% of our attention while a much more significant topic that influences our CoL by 50% gets only less than 5% of our attention. We need to shift the discussion more towards class issues and away from immigration issues, while acknowledging that immigration is still an issue. Just not the biggest issue.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
fading_person@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
We don’t even need to burn stuff. We can turn the system into chaos by a mere general strike, like literally staying at home and not working or buying stuff for a few days, like really doing nothing and seeing the economic system crash. We don’t even need to be close to 100% of the population joining such a movement for it to work.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Woah, nobody said anything about burning. Those are just regular, easily obtainable household items. Of course there’s always, The Implication that something could might happen.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait, we don’t have gasoline, we only have solar panels now.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Nah you got rid of solar and wind farms, some billionaires with oil companies made sure of that. There is still enough gas to fill the bottles, it’s just that they don’t make them out of glass anymore.
Has any research been done on of plastic bottle cocktails work?
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
try alcohol then
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You definitely shouldn’t use a rag as a stopper for your glass bottle full of gasoline, especially if you might need to throw it away from you in the event the rag spontaneously combusts.
It would be much safer for the bottle to be sealed so the fuel inside doesn’t ignite until it’s further away from you.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But where else am I gonna store all my 1/4" ball bearings other than a glass bottle full of gasoline to keep them nice and clean? And the rag conveniently serves as a stopper and a way to dry the bearings if I ever need one.
But I gotta be carefull, the bearings can pop the bottle easily even if it hits something soft like a person.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
and who’s gonna fight for the people? I’m not gonna fight for a society where women think of me as an asshole/predator/whatever simply because i’m a man. if we ever get a civil war, women can defend themselves, no kidding, because i’m not gonna fight and possibly die for somebody who doesn’t see me as part of their community.
the social media story that men are all assholes was a scheme to divide the population (women vs. men), to sow distrust and prevent cohesion. and it worked like a charm, because the people are goddamn idiots.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Well, idk about all men, but you certainly sound like an asshole
LouNeko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think it was a scheme, just natural emergence from access to instant and global communication. There wasn’t a single point in time where people have been at tune with each other. There was always division into competing hierarchies, groups and social circles. Now it’s just happening on a global scale.
Also, if women and men are so divided, then how come there are still couples and marriages and children? Don’t base your entire global world view on your own very limited personal experiences.
And let’s not pretend people fight for somebody else. In reality the reasons for fighting aren’t that noble. You either get radicalized, have nothing better to do or nothing else to lose.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Social media by itself can’t divide people. People become divided when they start thinking and acting like you’re doing at this moment.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
to sow distrust and prevent cohesion. and it worked like a charm, because the people are goddamn idiots.
Well it worked on you, so thats something.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s likely if you’re a man who behaves a certain way. I am an older man who has had to assist quite a few women after various degrees of sexist assault. I have also worked closely with men who were victims of violence by women, but I am generally in agreement with people about the misogyny risk that is everpresent for women. Most guys have little idea how deep it runs.
And then we get this kind of whinging. Dude, fucking wake up.
princesspurple@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I’m gonna say this one time, and you will probably ignore it and continue on as you were.
But maybe, you will reflect upon some part of it later.
I have been on a path that could have ended with an attitude like yours. The sad thing about it is when people tell you that you are creating you own perception that women at large think men are all assholes, or that women at large don’t think of you as part of their community, by how deeply (or not) you are reading into things that touch on those issues, and how willing you are to set aside your feelings of being attacked to try seeing what is being said.
As one example, the bear thing a year or so ago sure pissed a lot of people off and I am pretty sure I hear echoes of that event (or something very similar) in your comment.
Choose for a moment not to feel victimized by it, and instead look at it like this:
Perhaps, it’s a sad commentary on the lived experiences of many women in this country which we all believe to be so safe that so many of them have experienced such a pervasive threat of sexual assault that they regard unknown men as potential threats. We’ve been calling ourselves the greatest nation on earth for as long as the nation has existed, yet in 2025 a huge percentage of our wives and daughters are unable to feel safe if a strange man is behind them in a parking garage.
Yes, it annoys me for a second when I am minding my own business and I can see that a woman has changed her behavior to keep me in view or stay ahead of me as if I’m going to do something to her when I know well and good I am not. I have never done that a single time in reaction to someone just minding their own business. But then I realize, in 50+ years, I’ve had the luxury of never having felt that level of danger in my daily life.
So I figure, I hope someone else will help my wife or niece feel a little more comfortable in the same circumstance, and I try to make that annoying woman in front of me who wanted to have a little less fear feel a little safer if I can.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It is all a con. There is no endgame. They aren’t thinking that far ahead. And when the reality hits them it will land on them like a cartoon piano. They’ll never see it coming.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean some people have more money than ever to buy stuff. That’s the market that most of these things are being targeted to. Just consider everyone that isn’t extremely wealthy an obsolete product being phased out of production.
Keep restricting birth control and encouraging higher birthrates as early death numbers continue to climb in the U.S. due to a lack of safety regulations and overdoses.
Restrict what can be purchased using government aid to healthy options. Not bc you care about helping poor people to be healthy, but bc you know you might end up needing them for spare parts.
‘Horrifying’ mistake to take organs from a living person was averted, witnesses say
Natasha Miller says she was getting ready to do her job preserving donated organs for transplantation when the nurses wheeled the donor into the operating room. She quickly realized something wasn’t right. Though the donor had been declared dead, he seemed to her very much alive. “He was moving around — kind of thrashing. Like, moving, thrashing around on the bed,” Miller told NPR in an interview. “And then when we went over there, you could see he had tears coming down. He was crying visibly.” The donor’s condition alarmed everyone in the operating room at Baptist Health hospital in Richmond, Ky., including the two doctors, who refused to participate in the organ retrieval, she says.
"So the coordinator calls the supervisor at the time. And she was saying that he was telling her that she needed to ‘find another doctor to do it’ – that, 'We were going to do this case. She needs to find someone else,’ " Miller says. “And she’s like, ‘There is no one else.’ She’s crying — the coordinator — because she’s getting yelled at.”
BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wow, that was a crazy rabbit hole to go down. Here’s another NYTimes article on the subject:
Not only do they mention multiple survivors, but one woman went on the make a full recovery!
Sickening stuff
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It also helps that they don’t understand the reality of organ reception or being an irl cyborg. Anti rejection meds make you immunocompromised. Cochlear implants sound off and require extra mental effort to process compared to biological hearing (and have less true sound). Robotic arms are heavy and inconvenient to the point many prefer simple prosthetics.
Maybe someday we will have versions of some of these things that are genuinely equivalent to being abled. But I don’t know if I will live to see them.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Make money and sell it off before it falls like a house of cards
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The idea is just to get there first. If you make it one quarter before your competition then you get a a really good quarter.
Long terms plans don’t matter to CEOs. Long term stability is not rewarded by capitalism.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also if they believe the outcome is inevitable in the near future it’s a certain kind of sensible to race to be first. It’s a variant on the prisoners dilemma where they can see each other racing to rat the others out in the hope that the first will get a discount on sentence length.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Kill off all of the poors they no longer need and live in a utopia being served by robots.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unironically the closest answer to reality except they’ll just let us die
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I wasn’t joking. That’s our future if we don’t get our shit together and bring them down first.
conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dont you need poors for there to be rich? Even if they didnt need us to work cause some amazing AI, they need to flex it to real people right? Or will they stroke their ego with ai VTubers?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The Penultimate Truth is a really awesome book about pretty much this, except they stuck the poors underground in Tanks.
MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
tanks?
varoom vroom! or gurgle gurlge?
Kvoth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The time machine by hg Wells. The rich force the poor underground into manual labor until both evolve and the poor start eating the rich
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Falling rate of profit by karl marx predicted this. Self destructive nature of capitalism
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
A socialist revolution is the only solution and it will come.
Not the only. The rich still can lead us to fascism. The only problem is that fascism has its own internal contradictions and history won’t stop there.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
But the near-global technofascist dictatorship were on the threshold of is going to be vastly different than anything we’ve seen before. How do you resist a technological panopticon?
reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
you’d think so, but what is being actually done to achieve this? As far as i have seen, people dont seem to have interest even in their own well being if it requires any attention span and they lap up any and all propaganda to the extent you are considered kind of crazy if you think corporations might not have your interests at their heart.
If the revolution is coming, it wont have any supporters because vast majority will just side with the corporations or plain not care. Not saying this to deter anyone from doing something but to point that winning back peoples minds is the first step that needs to be taken if anything is to be done at all.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Slavery.
Kalothar@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Don’t forget mass murder either direct or indirect
Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, you have no idea. If you don’t have a job (or 5), then you’re going to prison for being a vagrant. Or they do some dystopian shit where you are in the equivalent work labor camp, where you are provided basic life necessities in exchange for paying off your debt by working based on your skills. No skills? Manual labor in farms or construction.
People really have no idea what we’re complacently walking into. If you’re not rich, and I mean a few million american dollarooos or trump bucks… say next 10 years…? You’re fucked.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re damn right, in that case it’s better to gather a group of people and go build villages far away from civilization and live in them so that these bastards with their drones don’t get us.
Well, if people remain in civilization, some will be led to the slaughter, and others will be forced to take the mark like cattle, and they will be like sheep awaiting slaughter.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sounds like a lot more work than setting up drones full of petrochemical cleaning agents that spark.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Thats the fucking crazy part, they simply can’t plan long term because they will be outcompeted by people only planning short term and that can’t be allowed
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The top 10% of the income ladder are already responsible for the majority of all consumer spending in the US. That concentration can simply continue as long as the consumption of the wealthy continues to grow along with wealth concentration.
We’re going to turn the world into Solaria. A handful of rich people living on vast robot-run estates selling goods and services to the wealthy owners of other estates.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
That allows for the threat of revolution which I am certain they’d rather live without. Besides they wouldn’t need us at that point so why keep us around to waste their food?
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Capitalism is a rabid dog, that only managed to serve the middle class well in the past because it was kept muzzled and on a tight leash.
Successive, and successful attempts to ‘unleash the beast’ have left us bit, and apologies for mixing metaphors here, but there is probably no way left, to get the genie back into the bottle:
Undoing 50+ years of damage would take time, especially when faced with resistance from those that stand to benefit most from the current broken system (think the Top 1% of the 1%), and that is time that we simply do not seem to have.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude I’m afraid this is just going to lead to the end of the world.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
For what it’s worth; the world will survive and adapt. Whether that means the extinction of humanity, is a whole separate matter altogether.
Our species entire existence is a mere blip compared to dinosaurs for an example.
philosloppy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the short-term plan is to slurp up all the stuff while they can. The long term plan is that there is no place for plebs in the automated future. The unwritten prologue to their sci-fi adventure is us commoners being abandoned to starve on a poisoned and resource-depleted mud ball as the intrepid billionaires go off to explore the cosmos with their robot pals.
m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Scrub the palace floors… Fight amongst ourselves… Froth at the mouth about the scapegoats they’ve chosen for us…
Furbag@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nobody is thinking beyond next quarter.
DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Climate change has made large parts of the Earth uninhabitable.
Now civilization is collapsing and the remaining humans are fighting for their very survival.
Now the companies that destroyed the world have neither raw materials nor anyone to produce or buy their useless products.
What is their plan to make money if there is no longer any social order and therefore no trust in currencies?
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’m guessing they will lobby th government to give out credits. They will then trade materials with each other, allow the masses to just starve and die off. They don’t actually want money, they want absolute power.
They only need us to make stuff. Once we are redundant, they won’t care about selling (to us)
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s UBI, and no, UBI is not a real socialist plan. It keeps the rest of us poor with little possibility of social mobility.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Short term profit.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
These “people” in charge of corporations genuinely forgot that the workers they underpay are the consumers who they on rely to give them money.
ISOmorph@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Tax any form of automation, be it software or hardware, and pay everyone a universal income from it.
9point6@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The wealth doesn’t disappear, it just ends up concentrated.
Goods and services will just be something most people will no longer be able to afford, and they go into poverty. Business will reconfigure to support the lifestyles of the very rich at prices only they can afford, because that’s where the money has gone.
Things will get so expensive, people will have to sell their assets (i.e. house) to be able to resist poverty. People without assets won’t even get that parachute.
If we don’t reverse this concentration of wealth, 99% of people will be living in slums before long.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Remember the hype about 3D tv’s? That’s AI now.
5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Getting rid of money and having a heavily stratified society with the current wealthy at the top. Like a cheesy SciFi premise but realized here to live in.
ch00f@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I heard recently this summary:
The US economy depends on two things:
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Who will fight the war?
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I think the capitalists have found a way to fight climate change. Significantly lower the population.
Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I guess you gotta break a few eggs.
roteradler@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What about an american model? Give the dumbest people the most weapons and hope they’ll all kill each other.
Or even better, give them to kids and let them do some mas sshootings at schools. This would prevent unemployment in the first place.
bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Has work set them free yet?
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Sucks if you don’t wanna play though, same as it ever was I guess.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
I got plenty of board games. Almost a hundred or so, like Firely and Dune too!