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  • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.

    She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.

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    • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Neither of them should have been punished? The joke is that America lost its goddamnmotherfucking mind over this. America is the joke.

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      • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Neither of them should’ve been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should’ve kept his pants zipped up.

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Remember Gary Hart? He had to drop out of politics because of a rumor of an affair.

        Meanwhile… Margaret Trudeau is doing blow with the Rolling Stones at Studio 52.

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    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Monica got the worst part of it all.

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      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        The penis…?

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    • NewPerspective@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This guy’s sexist af, don’t expect better

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why should he be punished? Nothing either one of them did was illegal. It was consensual private behavior that none of us should ever have heard about.

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      • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He was her boss and the president of the usa… considering her age too… questionable behaviour

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  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know what is incredibly miserable? When Clinton became president he was the first baby boomer president. And since then, save for Obama, all presidents were born roughly around the same time.

    Bill Clinton is almost the same age as Trump. Both were born in 1946. They were born months apart.

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    • KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I hope Trump is the last Boomer President.

      It’s like the boomers last gasp to really fuck EVERYTHING up once and for all.

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    • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For anyone looking for more history around this, the economist have a podcast series called Boom!

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      • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        BTW. Before Clinton, from Eisenhower to Bush Sr. The presidents were all WW2 veterans to some degree. Eisenhower was a general, Kennedy was a PT Boat skipper, and Reagan was in a non-combat role primarily acting in training films. Bush Sr. Was a naval aviator.

        For some reason or another, most of them were Navy guys.

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  • School_Lunch@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If only the media would cover epstein the way they covered this…

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    • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For all we know Murdoch and Bloomberg are on the list.

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.

    Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Uh…Bill had a lot of frequent flier miles to and from Epstein Island.

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      • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No! Trump bad!

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    • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, with that power imbalance I certainly wouldn’t call that affair consensual.

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      • Exatron@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Last I heard, Monica Lewinsky does, and her opinion matters more than any of our.

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  • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Such a silly scandal. Let people enjoy sex. Sure he was technically her boss but it was fully consensual and neither side regrets it.

    Compare to some recent American presidents…

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Him being her boss is the scandal part. It’s about power imbalance. There is no such thing as “consent” in this situation.

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      • testfactor@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Combine that with the fact that someone commiting adultery should be disqualifying for them becoming president.

        Look, I get that all the social norms have been completely ground to dust, but character does in fact matter. We should want a good person who refuses to cheat on their wife as a leader.

        Reducing this to just a fun fling because you like the guy is the same thing the hypocrites who support Trump and all of his scandals do.

        If he’s willing to betray his wife for a quicky from an intern, why would I trust him with anything else? For the person who’s leading the entire nation the bar should be higher.

        Also not to mention that he was 49 and she was 22. If this was anyone less “likeable” than Bill we’d all be calling him an absolute creep. He was pushing 50, and she could barely drink. And he was her boss.

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      • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Partially. It was really “Republicans went digging for some dirt and he lied about fucking his secretary during a deposition, so let’s steering him up over it”. It then became about bashing Monica cause misogyny.

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      • tatterdemalion@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There is no such thing as “consent” in this situation.

        Are you arguing Clinton raped Lewinski?

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    • otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah. The whole reason the Amanda Knox series happened is because Monika Lewinsky has been starting this documentary series where she tries to help victims in situations where publicity ruined their image and give them a chance to tell their story.

      What a fantastic way to turn an image around.

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    • zarathustra0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” - lying means nothing?

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        The definition of ‘sexual relations’ was a multi year legal debate.

        What the definition of ‘is’ was took several months.

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    • kofe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      She could not give full consent given the power imbalance. She does regret her role. Please consider looking into how she has reframed her experience since the #metoo movement.

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This smells like blue-no-matter-who mental gymnastics.

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  • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know it’s the 90’s because his pog collection is on display.

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  • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Anyone who listens to rap does.

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  • YashaB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No wonder he looks so happy.

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  • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not American, ELI5?

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    • can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bill Clinton, president from 92-2000, famously had an affair with white house intern Monica Lewinsky which included her performing oral sex on him in the oval office. The joke is that Lewinsky is under the desk.

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      • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Aww yeah

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  • Nomad@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Monica!

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    • thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, she got swallowed up and spit out by the whole thing. Poor naive girl then, at least she’s a strong woman now. She’s pretty inspirational.

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