for a more “traditional paint” like experience, Gris is just gorgeous to look at
what video game deserves to be in a museum?
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BunScientist@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Dwarf Fortress, obviously.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
All of them.
Art is art is art.
otp@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Not every single piece of art goes into a museum
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 hours ago
All glory to Hareraiser!
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Bad art is still art
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Probably One Must Fall 2097
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 18 hours ago
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tetris, because it is tetris
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pong, and probaly other examples of early home console games
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wolfenstein3d, doom, quake, quake3, doom3 because all of them were technical milestones, had lasting impact on the industry and they show the rapid advancement of pc gaming in the 90s and 2000s
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the elder scrolls series, as a simmiliar showcase.
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final fantasy 1, 6 and 7, as a showcase of jrpgs through various generations and the fmv of 7 and onwards were imho precursors of 3d rendered movies.
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half-life, because of the impact of it’s scripted set pieces and its level design
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counter-strike and starcraft, as the games that probably gave us professional e-sport.
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dota, because its for mobas what doom is for first person shooters.
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deus ex and thief, pioneered the “immersive sim” and they are great showcases of the interactive nature of games
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Pokémon, cultural impact can’t be denied and the trading aspect is a great example of a non traditional multiplayer experience
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various Mario Games, but definitely Mario Bros. Super Mario World and Mario 64 and probably Galaxy as a showcase of the evolution of plattformers in 2d and 3d, maybe throw a spyro or banjo kazooie in there.
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Grim Fandango, Kings Quest, Monkey Island, point and click adventures are there very own beast and often feature actual memorable characters. I definitely think more often about Manny Calavera than i do about Gordon Freeman or any Morrowind NPC, even though i played half-life and Morrowind much more than Grim Fandango
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Minecraft
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super meat boy, fez, hollow knight… lots of interesting indie games and they show how much more accessible game development has become.
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Prince of Persia and karateka, the way they were animated alone would be enough, but they also featured an actual story, they were interested in showing and featured music used simmiliar to a movies soundtrack.
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probably much more
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games that are a product of a very localized culture (gothic could not have been made anywhere else but the ruhrarea for example)
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the whole military complex is missing (from Mil Sims like Operation Flashpoint to actual recruitment vehicles like Americas Army)
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more modern games, which i just don’t know or that have not been rattling around in my brain for long enough, but baldurs gate 3, the last of us, or alan wake would probably end up on my list in a couple of years.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Great list!
I would add KSP, Guitar Hero and/or DDR, and Beat Saber.
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 14 hours ago
Kerbal Space Program is awesome :)
Videogames are still a young medium, very diverse and changing so rapidly, that i feel like there is no established canon of ‘classics’ or ‘high impact’ works. We’ll probably end up with dozens of lists like this in such a topic, and might end up without a single game that made it onto all of them, besides tetris.
if a simmiliar question was asked in a movies community i’d bet any list with more than 10 entries would include metropolis, nosferatu, citizen kane and star wars, just because those are widely agreed upon movies that had an impact.
jawa21@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
I would add Rogue for sure.
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 7 hours ago
oh, absolutely, rogue and nethack, they are the foundation of crpgs and dungeon crawlers.
i just fear we’d need increased security to break up the fight between groups with various definitions what ‘roguelike’ means.
knight_alva@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I would add the OG Mortal Combat gave us the MSRP rating system.
Dremor@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Shadow of the Colossus should be in there too. It has pioneered orchestral music in video games and gad a huge impact on them as a whole.
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 7 hours ago
shadow of the colossus seems like a great game, but i’ve never heard its music referenced as pioneer work, what did it different in that department?
kurcatovium@piefed.social 13 hours ago
Amazing list. I personally would add couple games, that defined my "gaming hobby":
- XCOM/UFO: Enemy Unknown - not sure how this fits in the list, but it was ground breaking for me: perfect blend of micro- and macro management, strategical decisions, tactical battles, what a great game and so much memories of it (and I'd put honorable mention of Jagged Alliance 1&2 here, 'cause they are very similar concept)
- Civilization - genius idea, one of the 4X pioneers, easy to pick up, hard to master, and so much replay value; its overall depth is quite a feat, especially given it's from 1991, no wonder the franchise is still alive and well now
- Fallout - esp. 1 & 2 might not be the best gameplay-wise, but their world building, characters and atmosphere are excellent... and everyone knows the legendary intro "War, war never changes..."
- Planescape: Torment - similar to above, amazing world, unbelievable story, one of a kind game
- Gothic - mainly 1&2 were simply awesome, there are no barriers (ahem), the world is your to explore, but it's deadly so you have to plan your progress, nothing is streamlined for you; I can't remember different game with such a vibe (other than piranha bytes later production)
- VtM: Bloodlines - kind of similar to Deus Ex, but also taking from the table top; and in my book it has THE best atmosphere of all the games I've played
- Witcher - this might be just European thing, but playing especially W1 felt kind of like folklore fairy tale from childhood turned into pretty grim adult game
- Disco Elysium - this is probably the only "sort of new" game that I've played and which definitely deserves a place in the list, great characters, amazing story and writingthere are plenty of others too, but my brain farts
Whitebrow@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Good list.
Vampire the masquerade bloodlines also deserves a honourable mention
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Awesome effort.
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x00z@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
g00@sh.itjust.works 6 minutes ago
Also my first thought. Specifically the first one.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The ICO trilogy
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
All of them. In the Museum of All Video Games
cosmo@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
This. All of them needs to be preserved.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I came here to say this exact same thing. Videogames are an art form, and the history of that art should be preserved, both the successes and the failures. People should be able to look back on what was a hit and what was flop, on the ideas that worked and the ones that didn’t, on the well made games and the badly made games. All of it matters, all of it is part of the same story.
BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Bioshock
Halo: Combat Evolved
Fallout New Vegas
Also, cynical answer is also whatever current mobile game is making a bazillion dollars right now because ✨capitalism✨
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
EA games deserve to be in a museum.
Because everyone needs to remember how a company can exploit their customer base with money grab schemes like loot boxes, pay to win junk and empty unplayable shells which need loads of expensive dlc’s to make it even a little playable.
There should also be an entire wing for never finished bug simulators.
The area with actual proper games would be tiny. But it should include the old age of empires 2, city skylines 1, Kerbal space program 1 and everything from Larian studios.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 11 hours ago
Age 2 is actually in a museum now. Larian’s games are overhyped, and even KSP went bad the moment Squad sold out to Tencent.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I’ve finished BG3 6 times now, had a lot of fun playing Divinity 2 and am now playing divinity 1 couch coop with a friend. Their games are actually properly built, with loads of well written storylines.
The reason why it became so over hyped is because people got angry at all the other studios because Larian actually delivered properly built games worth their money. Same with Schedule 1. The game is fun but should be average compared to other games. But it isn’t average, the rest is just complete money-grab bug simulator junk.
Outdated4134@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
RDR2
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
One that comes to mind is The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.
tatann@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Anthem
(For history purpose, just like there are museums for the Holocaust or the WTC)
Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
Well it’s certainly not Elden Ring, and it doesn’t matter how pretty the Thumbnail is. No DLSS or any of the other options is frankly just laughable.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Objects in museums don’t have to be there because of the art, but also cultural/historical significance. Elden Ring and the rest of Fromsoft’s Soulsborne games definitely deserve to be in the video game museum.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Do you think “art” only means “pretty pictures”?
Waryle@jlai.lu 9 hours ago
What a bad take. Do you also think the Seven Samurai movie shouldn’t be in a museum because it’s not IMAX?
Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
And there’s no CGI.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Ah yes, DLSS, the option to make your game look worse for better performance.
It’s not a necessity for a good looking game.
Abraxas@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
you have the worst taste maybe imaginable in games that you’re ‘opinion’ is futile lol
fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Outer wilds
Manzas@lemdro.id 9 hours ago
Half-life, or any source game along with minecraft.
P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Black and White
hmmm@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Doom, Minecraft and Touhou
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
Doom
I could write an essay significantly larger than the game itself and it wouldn’t be as powerful of an argument as just saying the name with the weight of legacy it commands.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Already a great book on Doom. Called Masters of Doom by David Kushner. Have the audiobook highly recommend.
Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 7 hours ago
a more tech oriented book about doom.
great read for anyone who is into programming.
Saleh@feddit.org 11 hours ago
There is video game museums already:
Zukial@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Limbo.
I really like the atmosphere. They created so much with such an minimalistic graphic style.
Factorio.
I don’t know where to start. Overall a great example that some people like to optimize and put way more effort into this game than their job. Zeitgeist?
rimu@piefed.social 19 hours ago
To get the obvious out of the way: Pacman, Doom 2, Starcraft, Simcity 2000, Civ 3. All genre-defining milestones.
Total Annihilation. They're still making sequels today (Supreme Commander, Beyond all Reason).
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Fuck yes Total Annihilation. BAR is already amazing and last time I played it it was still in alpha.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Civ 3? Outside of introducing strategic resources, it is difficult to think of what innovation Civ3 brought to the franchise. Civ 2? Absolutely. Civ 4? I can totally see it. What makes Civ 3 stand out?
If anything, Civ1 should be the milestone for creating a genre.
rimu@piefed.social 16 hours ago
Civ 3 was the first one I played so it sticks in my mind the most, that's all. Any of the Civs would be fine.
I do feel like Civ 3 was a big step up in visual effects, though.
Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
The Binding of Issac. Hands down my favourite game and a work of pure dedication.
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Tomb Raider.
tatann@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Isn’t the Louve pyramid already a reference to Tomb Raider ?
deaf_fish@midwest.social 8 hours ago
Isn’t there an open source port of this?
crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
All y’all be honest with yourself. The answer is the prestigious league of legends.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 11 hours ago
Dwarf fortress
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
All of them.
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Rogue Warrior?
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I said all of them, so yes.
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned the Strong Museum of Play which contains the video game hall of fame
Thoath@leminal.space 16 hours ago
E.T. for Atari
zod000@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
I still have my copy in my own little museum in my office with some of my favorite (or in this case most notorious) games. Does that count?
Thoath@leminal.space 2 hours ago
Yes, however the Smithsonian also counts, which is also where a cart is…and the Henry Ford museum…and the museum of Failure:3
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Terraria, a monument to indie games and the craft itself, gave tons of free content and still does, unlike the popular pay for expansion models on a half finished buggy game of their contemporaries