God is a dick.

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• superkret@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A faster light speed wouldn’t make a difference, since he made the universe 96 billion light years wide.

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  • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Something tells me this isn’t a bad thing. If there is an edge of the universe, it’s probably going to be a very strange place.

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    • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Indeed, but the way the math for expansion works is that there is something called a Hubble horizon and that makes it impossible to ever reach the edge, since it is moving away from us faster than light. (The limit doesn’t apply to the expansion of space-time).

      Quite a nifty solution by the Supreme Programmer to avoid us hitting the limits of the simulation. I couldn’t have designed it better.

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    • positiveWHAT@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And Earth is already stranger than some would like.

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    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good thing there isn’t one since we probably live in a donut.

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    • BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine there being just no stars behind you. Just nothing. On one side you see the universe, like a wall of stars and lights, and next to that just pure nothingness. The void.

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    • alcibiades@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey I hear there’s a nice restaurant out there

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  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tell me all your thoughts on God 'cause I would really like to meet her

    Disclaimer: To any higher power listening, I am not done living and do not want to meet God/a god immediately. There’s still plenty of candy left in this piñata.

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    • Pregnenolone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      blows raspberry

      ~Willem~

      ^Defoe^

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  • joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Stupid relative distance measurements ruining all our fun

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• Maiq@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving and revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, that’s orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it’s reckoned a sun that is the source of all our power. The sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see are moving at a million miles a day. In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour, of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.

  Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It’s a hundred thousand lights years side to side. It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand lights years thick but out by us it’s just three thousand lights years wide. We’re thirty thousand lights years from galactic central point, we go around every two hundred million years and our galaxy is only one of millions of billions in this amazing and expanding universe.

  The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding, in all of the directions it can whiz. As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, twelve million miles a minute and that’s the fastest speed thereis. So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure, how amazingly unlikely is your birth and pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space because there’s bugger all down here on earth.

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  • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gotta appreciate the classics.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Might as well watch it

      youtu.be/buqtdpuZxvk

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  • voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You lost me at miles

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same. Miles per second? What the hell kinda unit is that? Over here, we use Texases per lamb’s tail shakes.

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• JPSound@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And to add the cherry on top, should you ever reach his arbitrary speed limit, it distorts time itself. Even if you flew through space at c for a little weekend getaway, you’d return to a now foreign world only to find time had skipped forward +2,000 years, your entire family and social circles long dead from old age with societal and technical advancements beyond what you could have ever thought possible, completely isolating you. You’re now doomed to live in an unfamiliar world where not a single human speaks your language nor can they relate to you in any meaning way.

  AKA, gods speeding ticket.

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  • Techranger@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • kevin2107@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a solution for this: When you travel somewhere, travel with everyone’s mind at light speed. You see we think about lightspeed wrong. It’s meant for whole species to migrate. Not 1 individual.

    Another alternative is just take a snapshop of everyone’s minds at that point, then let them continue living even with your snapshot. When you return you pick back off where you left off. Living in your own dimension. The other dimension is long gone but you miss nothing.

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unless Artificial General Intelligence is developed, then perhaps some pattern could be found and the future humans can decode some of what you’re saying.

    Maybe even some brain-neuron scanner type of thing to measure your exact thoughts.

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• borax7385@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We don’t know how big is the universe beyond the observable universe.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What is observable is constrained by cause and effect. To see something, information must come from there to us. That cause and effect relationship cannot happen faster than lightspeed.

    We therefore have no evidence for anything other than the observable universe. Claims about anything else run into Russell’s teapot issues. We can speculate, but it’s ultimately nothing more than a story.

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    • VoterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The observable universe is constantly expanding as the passage of time allows light to reach us from more and more distant parts of the universe. So it’s less “we don’t know what’s outside” and more like (to a certain extent) “we have to wait and see.” And there’s nothing we’ve seen to indicate that these external regions that are being revealed are anything but more of the same kinds of things in our inner region of the observable universe.

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    • HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bro doesn’t believe in dark matter because he can’t see it

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  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, but we can estimate. I’m confident it’s at least 11 in size.

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• themoken@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Light speed is a “you must be this clever to participate” barrier to becoming an interstellar species, that’s all. Even if it’s not breakable, it just means you gotta be able to plan hundreds or thousands of years into the future.

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  • Enkers@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We can hardly plan 5 years into the future, let alone hundreds of thousands… It’d be pretty sad if the answer to the Fermi paradox is that everyone is too stupid to participate.

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    • qprimed@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      everyone is too stupid to participate

      if they are anything like us, its probably for the best.

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  • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not “just” the speed of light though, light is limited by the speed of information, also known as the speed of causality. If you were to somehow exceed that, then your future light cone becomes very messed up, and effect starts to be possible before cause.

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In other words, literal time travel

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just put a bunch of dna on an asteroid. Nature will figure the rest of it out.

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers. Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way.

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  • Midnitte@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I guess us Americans are out…

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• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And sending a space ship at at least a good fraction of light speed to a nearby star uses more energy than our total civilization uses at the moment. We’ve got some work to do before climbing up the Kardashev scale we’re anywhere close to that kind of travel.

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Read this and thought it had something to do with the Kardashians.

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• samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  99% of the universe is nothing. Wouldn’t that really be the dick move?

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  • DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The universe is basically 100% empty. An atom is more than 99.9999999 empty space.

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    • ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Say that again when a brick made of 99,9999999% empty space hits you!

      (Mustn’t be a hard hit, maybe more like a soft touch. For science, you know.)

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I rounded down.

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    • PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      wow. never thought of this in that way.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How much of a proton or electron is empty space?

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  • racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    99% of the universe is nothing.

    Worst video game developers ever.

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Clearly it was made by Bethesda.

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    • madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s actually just our solar system, the rest is just rendering tricks making us think there’s distance

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Broad as an ocean, deep as a puddle. Oh great, more rock.

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• jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hear me out. It doesn’t even matter that it’s 96 billion light-years away if you’re traveling at light speed. Because if you can travel at light speed, time would be better Frozen for you relative to earth time.

  So if you’re in a spaceship traveling at light speed to your destination, it would feel like you gotten there in an instant.

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  • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, due to length contraction, at light speed the universe isn’t 96 billion light years wide, it’s 0 anything wide.

    At light speed there is no time and no distance, the origin is the destination. You won’t even experience a single tick of Planck time to get there. Instantaneous.

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    • Fluke@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Doesn’t it also require infinite energy to do so if “the thing” has mass at all?

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    • docoptix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      AFAIK the observable universe is limited by the parts of space which expand faster than the speed of light.

      Some billions of years later and we might have not seen other galaxies at all, maybe we are lucky.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In an instant from the point of view of the people on Earth, but from your point of view time still moves forward.

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    • Ibaudia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Other way around. Instant from your POV but not from Earth’s.

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    • Gutek8134@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not the other way? You’d feel like you got there in an instant, while people on Earth needed to wait years?

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    • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Time is frozen at light speed. You also don’t experience any distance at light speed due to length contraction. You arrive at your destination instantaneously, not even experiencing a tick of Planck time, and you didn’t even travel a Planck length to get there.

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• Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you believe that the wide expanses of our planet Earth were crafted for the common ant to explore?

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  • CMonster@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is no evidence to suggest it anything is was crafted.

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    • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of course, but I’m trying work within the established framework of the meme here

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• peregrin5@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When the game is open world but no fast travel or mounts.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also the Universe: continues expanding

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  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I see you around a lot and appreciate your contributions. When I don’t have a good response, I’m just going to comment, “Kolanaki!”

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• jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There is no evidence that the Universe is bounded at all. For all we know, it is infinite in spacial dimension.

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  • KombatWombat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    True, but there is thought to be a finite amount of matter + energy, which cannot be created or destroyed. And since it is spreading out from an original dense point, it stands to reason that there would be a vacuum area that it has not reached yet.

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    • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Our current understanding of the big bang is not that it did out from one place, it happened everywhere all at once. If the universe is infinite, it started from zero volume and infinite density then immediately became infinite in volume and finite in density. The density of matter/energy is what is finite, not the amount of matter/energy, that is infinite (if the universe is infinite). Then there was a period of rapid inflation, then is settled down to the inflation we see today.

      Infinite or finite, the universe is not spreading out into anything, the distances between points are simply increasing.

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    • mmddmm@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hum, no. It’s widely believed that the amount of matter + energy in the universe changes all the time.

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    • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not at all how it works. In particular, it didn’t start from an original, dense point. It started everywhere, with nearly uniform density apparently infinitely in all directions.

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  • deaf_fish@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    John Green: Yikes!

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  • pornpornporn@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not really. As far as we know information can’t travel faster than light speed, and the oldest/farthest stuff we can see is 14 billion years old / 14b light years away. That gives us the radius and age of the observable universe.

    By our current understanding of how the universe works we can’t see anything further or older than that (and will never be able to), so any assumption about things outside/before the observable universe is completely baseless

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  • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It may as well as it is unreachable. It hasn’t existed forever hence only a limited amount of space is closer to us than the age of the universe.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There is idea in the three body problem novels:

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  That the speed of light was infinity at the birth of the universe but sentient species reduced the speed of light several times as a offence/defense mechanism to protect themselves from others.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dark Forest Theory is probably wrong. In-universe, the series unknowingly undermines it with communication tech that can transmit instantaneously. That would take away the assumption that civilizations can’t effectively communicate over interstellar distances and build trust.

    In reality, it’s something of an extension of the “every individual for themselves” mindset of evolution–something White Supremacists have loved. Kin Selection Theory does away with that. There is a basis for building trust and working together within evolution. The precursor ideas were even done in Peter Kropotkin’s “Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution” over a century ago. Kin Selection Theory put a mathematical foundation on it.

    I like the book series as literature, and the Netflix series has been OK so far (not great, but OK). Liu Cixin himself, however, has some really shitty opinions.

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    • 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Humanity stands on the brink of self-destruction because we have yet to overcome the primitive, selfish aspects of our nature. I have to believe that any civilization advanced enough for interstellar travel—without having destroyed itself along the way—must have achieved a certain level of cooperative enlightenment.

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  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Anything capable of altering fundamental physical parameters like that will be unknowable to us. We’d be like bacteria are to a human.

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  • CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah the whole concept of the “paraplegic universe” in Deaths End is so fucking good. And by good I mean bone chillingly terrifying.

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• Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t forget the part where it’s constantly expanding. So it’s 96B ly so far.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wait, now that I think about it, the observable universe have precisely that length because the speed of light, doesn’t it?

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  • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its a combination of the speed of light and how inflation has varied the size of the universe. Light’s only been able to travel about 14 billion light years since the universe began but those further regions used to be closer so light from them was already part of the way here when they vanished over the cosmic horizon.

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• GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Let’s say we reset everything today, wipe out everyone’s memory. God will be forgotten, science will still exist. People will figure out science sooner or later.

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  • Leg@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If I’m being honest, I think people will figure out god too. All it is is a question.

    “Did someone do all this?”

    It’s a reasonable question. Easy to ask, hard to answer. Attempt to identify this variable “someone”, and people will eventually land on some kind of god.

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    • Famko@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, but the point is that every time god is “rediscovered”, the form of that god changes as does the scripture surrounding that new religion.

      Science, for the most part, wouldn’t diverge from our current understanding of it, because it is ultimately our understanding of the world and its fuctions.

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    • kevin2107@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean you can answer that today lmao.

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• Enzy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “God” doesn’t exist in science.

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• yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Its probably for the best.

  If humans are able to get to another planet with life on it we would probably do horrific unspeakable things to the aliens.

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• kitnaht@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The universe is actually expanding at a rate faster than the speed of light. There’s only a finite distance we’d technically be able to travel if we were to leave right now.

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To be clear it’s lightspeed in space time, we “just” need to get rid of time.

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean, have you seen the human back, fuckin psychopath LMAO

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• mathemachristian@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Common trick map builders do, if you need to teleport the player for a scene e.g. they’re in a dream, but you dont want to load a whole new map you put the scene in the main map but someplace it cant be seen and is unreachable.

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• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nah, we can bend space. Sam Neill checkmates God.

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• Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is assuming that the universe is for us. It’s probably not for anything, but to the extent that it is for a kind of life, it might not be us.

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When putting together an outfit always remove the last accessory you put on.

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• doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There is teleportation in the Bible. Humanity just needs to up their game.

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  alcubierre drives are (theoretically) a thing. we could just bend space.

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• Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a bit of skipped step here. Just how do you get to the speed of light when it requires an infinite amount of fuel, with diminishing returns on the quantity of fuel you have?

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• Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Where’s the proof that a god even exists? Except for the Planck time, physicists have all but explained how everything got here.

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• loomy@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  god didn’t invent km’s ; satan did

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